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Transrook - 18 Jan 2006 20:14 GMT
For about an hour after the server restart, SOE has left the beta server
tradeskill vendors online in POK.  This meant that for a while all kinds of
tradeskills items were available for everyone.  Example, HQ Lion Skins for
Fleeting Quiver (tailoring), Air-Infused Spring Water (potter, brewing).
Tradeskiller paradise!  Hopefully anyone who scored skillups or a whole
bunch of valuable(expensive in Bazaar) items won't loose out with a rollback
or exploit punishment.

Well I can dream, can't I?
Vidden - 18 Jan 2006 22:25 GMT
So are all of your bags still full Transrook?

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Hughie MacAngus - 18 Jan 2006 22:36 GMT
> For about an hour after the server restart, SOE has left the beta server
> tradeskill vendors online in POK.  This meant that for a while all kinds of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> bunch of valuable(expensive in Bazaar) items won't loose out with a rollback
> or exploit punishment.

There was also an AA vendor. Yes, free AAs.

A widespread and aggressive rollback has been announced... if you bought
any tradeskill items off a player today, if they were originally from the
beta vendors, you'll get rolled back too. Watch out.

Hugh
Meldur - 18 Jan 2006 22:51 GMT
>> For about an hour after the server restart, SOE has left the beta server
>> tradeskill vendors online in POK.  This meant that for a while all kinds of
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Hugh

They announced a selective rollback now,for me its just an attempt to
calm down the players,we have no possibility to verify if they really
do it.
Not to mention that they say they are not able to do a full
rollback,are they really that cheap running EQ without a proper backup
system?

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Meldur
Tony Evans - 18 Jan 2006 23:50 GMT
In alt.games.everquest, Meldur <Meldur@t-online.de> wrote:

>They announced a selective rollback now,for me its just an attempt to
>calm down the players,we have no possibility to verify if they really
>do it.

You could always ask someone who gets rolled back.

>Not to mention that they say they are not able to do a full
>rollback,are they really that cheap running EQ without a proper backup
>system?

The game had been running for an hour by the time the tradeskill vendors
were killed, there were 168 people in PoK on Fennin.  How many people had
been XP'ing for an hour?  I don't care why they didn't do a full server
rollback, if they think they can do individual rollbacks that seems like a
better solution generally.

I'll ask people I know to have purchased stuff on the vendors and see if
they get rolled back - and then make a judgement.

>Characters deleted,Account canceled,a.g.e unsubscribed.

Oh dear, you didn't even bother to ask anyone if they got rolled back?  Oh
dear.  Sorry your toys seem to be 50 feet from the pram.

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Richard - 27 Jan 2006 05:05 GMT
> In alt.games.everquest, Meldur <Meldur@t-online.de> wrote:
>
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> Oh dear, you didn't even bother to ask anyone if they got rolled back?
>  Oh dear.  Sorry your toys seem to be 50 feet from the pram.

I know several people who got rolled back, and were quite rightly pissed
off about it, as at least some of them had not directly purchased
anything from those vendors, or knowingly interacted with someone who
had.  Including one person who lost their drop off Volkara, so has to do
that raid again, and hope to win the drop again.

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Fred Garvin - 19 Jan 2006 00:05 GMT
> Characters deleted,Account canceled,a.g.e unsubscribed.

You forgot: Class action lawsuit.
you_will_not_evade_me_spammer@yahoo.com - 19 Jan 2006 16:43 GMT
>You forgot: Class action lawsuit.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Your Honor, my dwarf was rolled back! Say, is that a gavel of justice?
Tony Evans - 19 Jan 2006 15:03 GMT
In alt.games.everquest, Meldur <Meldur@t-online.de> wrote:

>They announced a selective rollback now,for me its just an attempt to
>calm down the players,we have no possibility to verify if they really
>do it.

OK, so you've stopped reading, well your loss.

I know someone personally who bought 2 stacks of items from one of the
vendors, felt guilty, and sold them back.  They were rolled back to about 3
hours before the patch.

Before the patch they XP'ed in MPG, died, and got half way through looting
a corpse when the patch hit.  After the patch they did the buying and
selling back.  After the rollback they are at the entrance to MPG, with
none of the XP earned during that three hour session.

So if you'd been patient, you could have proven whether Sony were being
honest or not without having to behave like a 3 year old child.

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Tony Evans - 18 Jan 2006 23:48 GMT
In alt.games.everquest, Hughie MacAngus <hughie-200601@grfb.com> wrote:

>There was also an AA vendor. Yes, free AAs.

Did you see the vendor?  Everyone who's said that has second hand
knowledge, I've not spoken to anyone who directly used or saw this vendor.

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Hughie MacAngus - 19 Jan 2006 03:21 GMT
> In alt.games.everquest, Hughie MacAngus <hughie-200601@grfb.com> wrote:
>
>>There was also an AA vendor. Yes, free AAs.
>
> Did you see the vendor?  Everyone who's said that has second hand
> knowledge, I've not spoken to anyone who directly used or saw this vendor.

Well I would not be expecting anyone who directly used it to step
forward :) But you may have a point.

I have seen the AA vendors in a previous beta though, but it was spawned
specifically by a GM for us to purchase and test specific AAs. It's a
vendor with a single item, a book (or something like that), you buy the
book cheap, hand it back to the vendor and you get an AA point, much like
melee tomes work. Given that there are supposedly no new AAs in this
next expansion, I don't know why they would have an AA vendor loaded
into the PoK zone (of course they could have included all these vendors
from a previous beta, who can tell).

Hugh
Tony Evans - 19 Jan 2006 15:02 GMT
In alt.games.everquest, Hughie MacAngus <hughie-200601@grfb.com> wrote:

>I have seen the AA vendors in a previous beta though, but it was spawned
>specifically by a GM for us to purchase and test specific AAs. It's a
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>into the PoK zone (of course they could have included all these vendors
>from a previous beta, who can tell).

Yeh I know the vendor, it seems it might have been there, but it wasn't
possible to get AA from it.  I didn't see it personally, and was also
'guilty' of saying it was there.

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Impmon - 19 Jan 2006 11:21 GMT
>For about an hour after the server restart, SOE has left the beta server
>tradeskill vendors online in POK.  This meant that for a while all kinds of
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>
>Well I can dream, can't I?

It sounds like SOE is going to rollback just about everyone who tried
the npc and others who may have bought or recieved the ill gotten gain
from the players.  Worse, if you paid, you never get the plats back
even if it was to other players.

I spent my time just sitting in bazaar selling junk so I never got
affected by SOE's blunder.

I did get a good chuckle or 2 out of people /oocing in PoK how to get
reimbursed for the lost items.  money I can understand but don't
expect to get back 20 stacks of metallic drake wings.
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Transrook - 20 Jan 2006 05:47 GMT
> For about an hour after the server restart, SOE has left the beta server
> tradeskill vendors online in POK. ......
>
> Well I can dream, can't I?

Well, got rolled back LOL.  Amazing how thorough and efficient they are
after a MAJOR SCREW UP.

Don't ya wish they put in that kind of effort EVERYDAY?
Xiphos - 23 Jan 2006 22:50 GMT
Realizing full well this thread has grown a bit stale:

> > For about an hour after the server restart, SOE has left the beta server
> > tradeskill vendors online in POK. ......
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>
> Don't ya wish they put in that kind of effort EVERYDAY?

It's funny. Over the weekend my wife logged in for the first time since
the day BEFORE the patch. She was not logged in except as a bazaar
merchant from the day after the patch fiasco to the rollbacks, and as
such made no purchases during that time. The day BEFORE the patch, she
had bought a few underpriced (Woops, that one's missing a zero!) items,
and gave my iksar necro a set of experts armor. She got rolled back,
losing 20K in plat, the underpriced items she had legitemately
purchased the day BEFORE the patch, and got back all the experts armor
she had given me. My necro, however, was not rolled back and still has
the experts armor. I WAS playing my main the day of the patch, and was
not hit by a single rollback. So it almost seems like the rollbacks
were random.

While she feels double XP weekend isn't quite an appropriate tradeoff
for two days of legitemate transactions for a measly hour of rampant
tradeskilling, and to a goodly extent I agree, we did take full
advantage of it.
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