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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / EverQuest / January 2006A new height in laziness
So, I'm in DL with my druid, and I get a tell from a lvl 61 warrior: "Can you port me to PoK?" **sigh** >So, I'm in DL with my druid, and I get a tell from a lvl 61 warrior: >: >"Can you port me to PoK?" > >**sigh** Suggestion: accidently port him to Cobalt Scar, then /exit to fake LD  SignatureWhen you hear the toilet flush, and hear the words "uh oh", it's already too late. - by anonymous Mother in Austin, TX Spam block in place, no emil reply is expected at all. On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 18:43:05 -0500 in <hp5er1hk6e68jjf857lja8ub4seqnn7k65@4ax.com>, Impmon <impmon@digi.mon> graced the world with this thought: >>So, I'm in DL with my druid, and I get a tell from a lvl 61 warrior: >>: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Suggestion: accidently port him to Cobalt Scar, then /exit to fake LD see, I'm just not thinking fast enough... >see, I'm just not thinking fast enough... Great shame, the addition of PoK. Port to Toxx and bind used to be the win for rude port beggars. M On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:08:04 +0000 in <slrndrkq93.2162.matt@sherlock.clues.com>, matt@clues.com (Matt Collins) graced the world with this thought: >>see, I'm just not thinking fast enough... > >Great shame, the addition of PoK. Port to Toxx and bind used to be the >win for rude port beggars. > >M The good old days. > So, I'm in DL with my druid, and I get a tell from a lvl 61 warrior: > : > "Can you port me to PoK?" > > **sigh** So, let me get this right, you were in a zone atleast 2 zonelines away from PoK, as a port class, not /anon, not /role, and you got a tell for a service that is fairly unique (only two classes do it). You complain about this why? IMO, that's like being a being a cleric, and griping about people asking for a rez, it's part of your class. Now granted, the person requesting the ride could have phrased it a bit differently, but your gripe was about laziness, not rudeness. >> So, I'm in DL with my druid, and I get a tell from a lvl 61 warrior: >> : [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > granted, the person requesting the ride could have phrased it a bit > differently, but your gripe was about laziness, not rudeness. I believe the point was why bother someone to drop what they're doing to port you when you're only two zones away in the first place. The fact that you're a port class doesn't make your services automatically available to everyone. Apologies to the dead horse. SignatureRichard Carpenter "Write something worth reading, or do something worth writing." -- Benjamin Franklin On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:00:34 GMT in <Xns973E98B02AA58rumbledorhotmailcom@216.148.227.77>, Richard Carpenter <rumbledor@hotspamsuxmail.com> graced the world with this thought: >>> So, I'm in DL with my druid, and I get a tell from a lvl 61 warrior: >>> : [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Apologies to the dead horse. I have to wonder how often Joshua bothers people in this manner himself, if this is the way his thinking runs. I won't even bring up the fact that after porting him there, I have to run to the stone, go to FV, then make the trip all the way back to where I was. Why is it <I'm> supposed to do all that, and this guy gets a free ride? I might point out that the guy would make better time going to the book,just to begin with, than search for a druid or wizard, contact them, wait for an answer, then wait for me to find him, or him to find me, and then port. I am SO happy I am a wizard! Lol. Jaelithian, 61st level On 1 Jan 2006 14:14:14 -0800 in <1136153654.260974.66680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, "Jael" <ctilly@rtr.net> graced the world with this thought: >I am SO happy I am a wizard! Lol. Jaelithian, 61st level Yeah, at least you don't have to go with them... >I am SO happy I am a wizard! Lol. Jaelithian, 61st level Just wait till a noob ask you to give him focus and temp. =P I get asked to do this a few time but as beastlord my focus spells only work on higher level toons and no temp at all. I have yet to see a Vah Shir that can cast temp/virtue/conviction line of spells. SignatureWhen you hear the toilet flush, and hear the words "uh oh", it's already too late. - by anonymous Mother in Austin, TX Spam block in place, no emil reply is expected at all. <snip> > I have to wonder how often Joshua bothers people in this manner > himself, if this is the way his thinking runs. I won't even bring up > the fact that after porting him there, I have to run to the stone, go > to FV, then make the trip all the way back to where I was. Why is it > <I'm> supposed to do all that, and this guy gets a free ride? Noone ever said that he should get a free ride, my point was, with /roleplay or /anon, you'll never get tells in the first place. Now granted, if I were asking, I would have made a reasonable offer of platinum, and a "Sorry, busy" would suffice to set my feet running, as I implied, maybe your arguement should be about rudeness, not laziness. In addition, last time I checked, druids got a port to DL, all you'd have to do is port him, port back, and run to resume what you were doing. Not saying that it's not an inconveiniance, but a quick /role or /anon, might save you the need to gripe about it. > I might point out that the guy would make better time going to the > book,just to begin with, than search for a druid or wizard, contact > them, wait for an answer, then wait for me to find him, or him to find > me, and then port. Possibly, possibly not, I know people that take two or more minutes to zone, for various reasons. A level 61 warrior may not have run3+, and likely doesn't have SoW/SoE/FoE, It *could* reasonably take 15 minutes to get from DL to PoK under these conditions. Then again, maybe he's one of those players who think classes are different and have different abilities for a reason. /shrug > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > players who think classes are different and have different abilities for a > reason. /shrug A 61 warrior who can't be bothered to buy and carry stacked Blood of the Wolf potions? Or if keeping up with those gets tiresome, TBoots? My assumption was that he was in the lost valley and that Gore was in the way or something... or was sending a tell on his high level toon but really wanted transportation for a low level buddy/alt he was PLing. On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:37:21 -0500 in <baGdnY_ugNFpAiXeRVn-rw@dejazzd.com>, Lance Berg <emporer@dejazzd.com> graced the world with this thought: >My assumption was that he was in the lost valley and that Gore was in >the way or something... or was sending a tell on his high level toon but >really wanted transportation for a low level buddy/alt he was PLing. Well, Gorenaire definitely wasn't around, because she'd have been on me in a second... lol However, I pretty much assumed the same thing, he was there PLing someone most likely. And I don't know how many times I've agreed to port someone, only to find an entire group waiting to go--not that it's any more hassle (except for the fact that they might be a little more likely to cough up some gratuity for my time, but never do), but it's like stopping for a hitchhiker and five more people come out of the bushes. What's interesting is, people who know me never ask. People who have done favors for me, who I've told "If you ever need a ride, feel free to give me a tell" never call me. Some shmoe can't haul his a.s to the next zone wants a ride. <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote: > What's interesting is, people who know me never ask. That's not interesting. That's common sense. =P On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 03:12:41 GMT in <JS0uf.1293$%W1.895@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Joshua" <Joshua@fakeemail.net> graced the world with this thought: ><snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >busy" would suffice to set my feet running, as I implied, maybe your >arguement should be about rudeness, not laziness. Boy, I can tell you've never played a druid. You're the first person I think I've ever seen that wasn't a druid actually suggest that I be anonymous. Don't you realize that clerics, wiazrds and druids are never supposed to be anonymous so people can bother them at will? And why would I post about rudeness when the guy wasn't rude? He didn't heckle me, he didn't do anything--except ask that I do the work to save him from the trouble. That's laziness. >> I might point out that the guy would make better time going to the >> book,just to begin with, than search for a druid or wizard, contact >> them, wait for an answer, then wait for me to find him, or him to find >> me, and then port. > >Possibly, possibly not, Bullshit. Definitely. We're talking about man hours here. Carry your own friggin weight. I wonder what the chances would've been of my joining his group? "Nah, we don't need a druid. Oh, wait, can you port me?" Been there too many times. At level 61 if this guy can't handle a trot through DL, he should be playing The Sims. All your doing now is grabbing at straws to keep from admitting you were 100% wrong to begin with. Quit thrashing, it's boring. <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote: > I won't even bring up > the fact that after porting him there, I have to run to the stone, go > to FV, then make the trip all the way back to where I was. I won't bring up the fact that if you can port, you can port to Dreadlands... >I might point out that the guy would make better time going to the >book,just to begin with, than search for a druid or wizard, contact >them, wait for an answer, then wait for me to find him, or him to find >me, and then port. Quit your bitching, next time i'm in pok at the guild lobby ZI i want an evac to the potranq stone. On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 10:27:05 -0500 in <sghir11sbtpq6vebcgoohn26q8d7fe1fnl@4ax.com>, ad_libitum <> graced the world with this thought: >>I might point out that the guy would make better time going to the >>book,just to begin with, than search for a druid or wizard, contact [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Quit your bitching, next time i'm in pok at the guild lobby ZI i want >an evac to the potranq stone. lol... you win! >lol... you win! I actually do that, I box a wizard, i'm so lazy i port to pok and succor when i want to go to potranq and succor in tranq when i want to go back to pok (near MB) -- My own business always bores me to death; I prefer other people's. Oscar Wilde | admin @ cynode.com I won't even bring up > the fact that after porting him there, I have to run to the stone, go > to FV, then make the trip all the way back to where I was. Why is it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > them, wait for an answer, then wait for me to find him, or him to find > me, and then port. First off If your a druid you can "BIND AFFINITY" yourself in Dl and gate back. Second off if your a druid that is truely high enough level to be in DL you also have "TRACK". So It should be easy to find him. If you dont Like to be bothered there is also this thing Known as "/ROLEPLAY", Which makes it impossible for them to know you are a druid at all unless thewy are are right there with you which negates the finding them part all together. My suggestion is to just delete the druid since obviously you dont like the fact that part of the druids job, is TAXI service. And Just like all services there should be a charge. Not to mention the fact that you could just as easily have replied "Im sorry but I am busy right now so I can not port you. Maybe someone else can give you a ride." > First off If your a druid you can "BIND AFFINITY" yourself in Dl and gate > back. No need to Bind. After all, as a druid I usually leave my bind point somewhere that I'm doing stuff -- e.g., currently I'm bound in Thurgadin for tradeskilling. But Xanthe's Earring of Nature (the one most folks exchange for a Solstice Earring) has a clicky port to DL. Really, the only inconvenience in being a taxi is the interruption, and if I'm in the middle of something where I'm not willing to be interrupted, I'll tell the person so. Have yet to have anyone bug me after that. -- Don. --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- See the a.g.e/EQ1 FAQ at http://www.iCynic.com/~don/EQ/age.faq.htm -- -- Sukrasisx, Monk 58 on E. Marr Note: If you reply by mail, -- Terrwini, Druid 54 on E. Marr I'll get to it sooner if you -- Teviron, Knight 39 on E. Marr remove the "hyphen n s" -- Wizbeau, Wizard 36 on E. Marr >> First off If your a druid you can "BIND AFFINITY" yourself in Dl and gate >> back. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >if I'm in the middle of something where I'm not willing to be interrupted, >I'll tell the person so. Have yet to have anyone bug me after that. So, it sounds like you have a druid... lol You've hit it exactly on the head. However, don't forget, that clicky is for the Hidden Valley, still just about as long of a run as you'll find to the Frontier Mt. Tunnel, which is where I was bound and was my central point. It would be faster to gate to PoK, run to the stone for FV and run there... which, what, I'm supposed to do this to make some other guy's game more convenient? I didn't even know the guy. Let's not lose scope of the subject line here, it's not "options to port lazy dickheads you don't know around." >>> First off If your a druid you can "BIND AFFINITY" yourself in Dl and gate >>> back. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >the subject line here, it's not "options to port lazy dickheads you >don't know around." I totally agree. Let them run across a safe zone to a PoK book - it will take them all of 30 seconds longer, ffs! If they (the 'port requester) is thinking that I will suddenly drop what I am doing, Track their arse across the zone, mem Bind Affinity and the required Port, do the trip and then Gate back - having to re-Bind myself later at my chosen point - merely in order to save them a short run, it's a case of "Tough sh.t, buddy". I port for me, my personal friends and/or my current party, and other than that, I'm *nobody's* taxi. I ignore (and always have done) requests for 'ports in OOC even if people say they'll pay for them... the token amounts usually offered wouldn't even tempt me to walk across a zone and find them. To be fair, I practice what I preach, so to speak - I play my non-Druid characters by the same standards:- I have NEVER begged a port in 4 years, and certainly since the introduction of PoK, I've never seen the need to even buy one. As an aside, regarding the "anon" thing... Even though I do use "anon" status, people still used to sometimes figure I was a Druid and try and bum ports. To fix this, I took to carrying Zaxthril Forged Flamberge and a Parrying Dagger and then just said I was a Ranger, if asked for a 'port. It works very nicely. Palindrome >>>> First off If your a druid you can "BIND AFFINITY" yourself in Dl >>>> and gate back. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Flamberge and a Parrying Dagger and then just said I was a Ranger, if > asked for a 'port. It works very nicely. Back when ports were actually helpful to get to places, I would OOC in PoK offering 200pp or so, and if I didn't get a bite within 30 seconds or so, I was already hoofing it. I agree absolutely, that just because you are a druid or wizard, does not mean you are a taxi. I have no problems with people using ooc or auction to look for a ride, or any other service other players can offer. I hate getting tells for the services, and generally ignore them. SignatureGraeme Faelban, 70 shaman <Sanctuary of Marr> Erollisi Marr > I won't even bring up >> the fact that after porting him there, I have to run to the stone, go [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > First off If your a druid you can "BIND AFFINITY" yourself in Dl and > gate back. Uh, then you can't gate back to your original bind point. Same problem. > Second off if your a druid that is truely high enough level to be in > DL you also have "TRACK". So It should be easy to find him. Does druid track cover the whole zone? Even half of it? > If you dont Like to be bothered there is also this thing Known as > "/ROLEPLAY", Which makes it impossible for them to know you are a > druid at all unless thewy are are right there with you which negates > the finding them part all together. I would agree on that point. > My suggestion is to just delete the druid since obviously you dont > like the fact that part of the druids job, is TAXI service. And Just > like all services there should be a charge. That's a pretty narrow (and I might even say selfish) view. > Not to mention the fact that you could just as easily have replied "Im > sorry but I am busy right now so I can not port you. Maybe someone > else can give you a ride." Let's keep in mind the original point to this thread is the fact that a person would go looking to impose on others to avoid running a zone or two away. That's the real issue here, not whether druids should mind dropping what they're doing to port them. SignatureRichard Carpenter "Write something worth reading, or do something worth writing." -- Benjamin Franklin On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:36:04 GMT in <Xns9753B31119BCBrumbledorhotmailcom@204.127.204.17>, Richard Carpenter <rumbledor@hotspamsuxmail.com> graced the world with this thought: >Does druid track cover the whole zone? Even half of it? Actually, in DL, I get a hell of a track, but I'm not sure what it is percentagewise, maybe 60%-70%. But the zone isn't really that big. SK Rathe, places like that are a different story. Of course, playing dodge the drolvarg figures into this too. On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:55:22 GMT in <ebTAf.29270$RK3.20356@trnddc06>, "Robb Anderson" <Robb714@verizon.net> graced the world with this thought: > I won't even bring up >> the fact that after porting him there, I have to run to the stone, go [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >First off If your a druid you can "BIND AFFINITY" yourself in Dl and gate >back. oh boy, another clueless moron drags up a month old post to blather. Look, bubba, it's been resolved. I do what the f.ck I want for openers. Now you have me rebinding somewhere I don't want to be bound, transporting a lasy a.shole I don't know to somewherer I don't particularly want to be. I'm not your nigger. Get over it and play a druid if you want to do that. >Second off if your a druid that is truely high enough level to be in DL you >also have "TRACK". So It should be easy to find him. Boy, you must be a real joy to play with. So I'm supposed to find you and then xport you? How about if I bend you over a rock and f.ck you? Have you got any common sense or courtesy? You expect people to wait on you? By the way, it's a <given> that I'd track the guy, you idiot, were you thinking I'd just run all over the f.cking zone looking for hime? >If you dont Like to be bothered there is also this thing Known as >"/ROLEPLAY", Which makes it impossible for them to know you are a druid at >all unless thewy are are right there with you which negates the finding them >part all together. Yeah, it's all my responsibility, right? I bet you get told "no" more than just about anyone in the game. >My suggestion is to just delete the druid since obviously you dont like the >fact that part of the druids job, is TAXI service. And Just like all >services there should be a charge. Yeah, and my suggestion is to find another newsgroup, and work on your in-game people skills. >Not to mention the fact that you could just as easily have replied "Im sorry >but I am busy right now so I can not port you. Maybe someone else can give >you a ride." And he could even more easily run to the book, and not expected another player to take time from his gaming to play good Samaritan so his own gaming was disturbed as little as possible. "bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> opened his mouth and stupid came out in news:MrgBf.5254 > Look, bubba, it's been resolved. I do what the f.ck I want for > openers. Now you have me rebinding somewhere I don't want to be bound, > transporting a lasy a.shole I don't know to somewherer I don't > particularly want to be. I'm not your nigger. /Snip mindless > drivel.................../ Is there any doubt to anyone as to why this idiot plays a solo class (druid)? This is exactly why our guild has a probation period; asslings with attitudes like this. "Raylene and Jeb" <Raylene2002b@yahoo.com> wrote in news:BG7Df.47773 $Kp.35040@southeast.rr.com: > "bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> opened his mouth and stupid came out in > news:MrgBf.5254 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > (druid)? This is exactly why our guild has a probation period; asslings > with attitudes like this. You might just be surprised. Seems to me it's the asslings that make him prefer to play a solo class. Politically incorrect? Probably. Caustic? Known to be. Can't say I've ever gotten any sort of racist vibe from him though. /shrug SignatureRichard Carpenter "Write something worth reading, or do something worth writing." -- Benjamin Franklin >"Raylene and Jeb" <Raylene2002b@yahoo.com> wrote in news:BG7Df.47773 >$Kp.35040@southeast.rr.com: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> (druid)? This is exactly why our guild has a probation period; asslings >> with attitudes like this. >You might just be surprised. Seems to me it's the asslings that make him >prefer to play a solo class. Yes, a very valid point. The majority of the time I either solo/duo, because there are too many clueless twinks/powerlevelled characters around now. The cluelessness has reached incredible heights with the Monster Mission grinding, too. >Politically incorrect? Probably. Caustic? Known to be. Can't say I've ever >gotten any sort of racist vibe from him though. /shrug Very true. He gets labelled a lot, but that often says more about the people who try to label him than it does about bizbee himself. He doesn't suffer fools and the "Politically Correct" gladly, but I'm with him as regards that anyway. I just don't express it in the colourful terms he sometimes does ;) Palindrome On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 19:07:50 GMT in <aMVtf.1093$%W1.559@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Joshua" <Joshua@fakeemail.net> graced the world with this thought: > You complain about this >why? You seem to miss the point, but let me draw you a picture so you can understand. Yes, I'm a port class. That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, particularly someone I don't even know, and have to go find. I'm playing the game, I'm busy. Second--is there some reason he can't use the book that's in the next zone, about two minutes from anyplace in DL, or the spires that are <in> DL? I'm not here to make his gaming experience more pleasurable by lessening the quality of <my> gaming experience. He chose to be a warrior, I didn't make him one. >On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 19:07:50 GMT in ><aMVtf.1093$%W1.559@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Joshua" [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >by lessening the quality of <my> gaming experience. He chose to be a >warrior, I didn't make him one. There's a pretty simple solution my druid used: if you are feeling mercenary, name a price ("I can do it for 50pp"). If you are feeling busy, just say, "Sorry, I'm busy". Worked for my druid for 56 levels... don't recall ever getting hassled if I said I was too busy to port. If you're thinking that you shouldn't *have* to talk to people, it might be time to look into single-player games. On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:11:24 GMT in <3oghr1pm1e3evj7j1is4dafobnio1sspfi@4ax.com>, murdocj <temp@mirque.delete.this.com> graced the world with this thought: >>On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 19:07:50 GMT in >><aMVtf.1093$%W1.559@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Joshua" [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >levels... don't recall ever getting hassled if I said I was too busy >to port. Boy, I have. One guy kept it up for about five minutes before I finally put him on ignore. "Aww, come on, bro..." I was hunting in Skyfire and he expected me to come pick him up in Steamfont. That one sticks out more than others, just because of the general stupidity involved. The other day I was in Lavastorm and got a tell from some guy who wanted me to pick him up in PoK and take him someplace, I can't even remember where. If someone hunts me down and asks me face to face, their chances of getting a port or buff are close to 100%. If someone shoots me a tell and wants me to come to them and buff or port them, their chances are closer to the other end of the scale. >If you're thinking that you shouldn't *have* to talk to people, it >might be time to look into single-player games. I talk to who I choose--so because of that I'm supposed to play a single player game? Yeah, that's one of your more brilliant comments. On top of which, what is it, exactly, that I might tell whatever group I'm involved with? "Excuse me guys, I have to take ten minutes of everyone's time to go taxi some dickhead I've never heard of before because I'm a druid and he's too strapped for time to run to the next zone." <snip> > I talk to who I choose--so because of that I'm supposed to play a > single player game? Yeah, that's one of your more brilliant comments. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > because I'm a druid and he's too strapped for time to run to the next > zone." That's when you tell the guy asking, "Sorry, busy." If he doesn't stop asking then, then you'd have a lazy/rude arguement, but asking for a port from a non anon port class, is not lazy or rude, it's within the game. ><snip> >> I talk to who I choose--so because of that I'm supposed to play a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >asking then, then you'd have a lazy/rude arguement, but asking for a port >from a non anon port class, is not lazy or rude, it's within the game. For THAT pissant-length run, through a safe zone, that IS sheer laziness. Screw him. Palindrome On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:26:11 GMT in <Ducuf.1540$%W1.1058@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Joshua" <Joshua@fakeemail.net> graced the world with this thought: ><snip> >> I talk to who I choose--so because of that I'm supposed to play a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >asking then, then you'd have a lazy/rude arguement, but asking for a port >from a non anon port class, is not lazy or rude, it's within the game. boy, you just don't get it, do you? >On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:11:24 GMT in ><3oghr1pm1e3evj7j1is4dafobnio1sspfi@4ax.com>, murdocj [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >because I'm a druid and he's too strapped for time to run to the next >zone." Why do you think you have to slow down your group? If someone can't take a hint, /ignore him and move on. You claim "I talk to who I choose" so why are you bothering to spend 10 minutes on someone you don't want to talk to, when with a single command you can be done with him? On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 18:56:06 GMT in <cetir15mllr7gehfn19tvicdes1j5mlin1@4ax.com>, murdocj <temp@mirque.delete.this.com> graced the world with this thought: >>On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:11:24 GMT in >><3oghr1pm1e3evj7j1is4dafobnio1sspfi@4ax.com>, murdocj [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >don't want to talk to, when with a single command you can be done with >him? and that's exactly what I do... however, why is someone even asking to begin with, when they're five minutes away from the friggin book, and, well, whether I'm in a group or not, I'M IN THE GAME... it should be assumed that I'm busy... I'm not hanging out in DL because I like the solitude. I think the biggest thing is, that I've never presumed to do this with any of my other characters--therefore it blows me away when other people do it to me. >Boy, I have. One guy kept it up for about five minutes before I >finally put him on ignore. "Aww, come on, bro..." I never gave them 5 minutes. If I got back something other than a variant on "ok, sorry to bother you" I put them on ignore. That being said, I was almost never anon for 56 levels as a druid and 66 levels as an enchanter, and I can only recall a handful of times where I really got hassled. >I was hunting in Skyfire and he expected me to come pick him up in >Steamfont. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >wanted me to pick him up in PoK and take him someplace, I can't even >remember where. My other tactic, when I got a "can you tp me to X" was to say "yes". Then after a few minutes I'd get "I'm at spot Y" to which I'd reply "I'm at spot Z". After a few exchanges like that the would-be portee would catch on that I wasn't planning on crossing a bunch of zone just to function as his personal taxi service. Probably put me on HIS ignore list :) >If someone hunts me down and asks me face to face, their chances of >getting a port or buff are close to 100%. If someone shoots me a tell >and wants me to come to them and buff or port them, their chances are >closer to the other end of the scale. I suppose I was a bit more mercenary than you. I solo'ed a lot and if someone was willing to pay me for my time, I was happy to take 5 minutes to port them. >bizbee said: >>If someone hunts me down and asks me face to face, their chances of >>getting a port or buff are close to 100%. If someone shoots me a tell >>and wants me to come to them and buff or port them, their chances are >>closer to the other end of the scale. >I suppose I was a bit more mercenary than you. I solo'ed a lot and if >someone was willing to pay me for my time, I was happy to take 5 >minutes to port them. I'd probably port someone for plat, as long as I wasn't occupied with something else myself, too. Anyhow, on a wider note, let us not forget here that biz's original post merely pointed out the sheer laziness of the guy who asked for a port merely to avoid a short run through safe turf. A bit like the guy on my server who was asking for a port from PoK to Lavastorm - when the zone started laughing at him after his 3rd or 4th appeal, he got huffy and said he just wanted to save himself the bother of the run. THAT's the kind of laziness bizbee was illustrating. Rudeness was not mentioned by biz, nor any of the other baggage attached retroactively to the post by everyone else. Palindrome On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:13:37 +0000 in <hlmkr1pg630ph28sbciai180pukk61v443@4ax.com>, Palindrome <damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> graced the world with this thought: > A bit like the >guy on my server who was asking for a port from PoK to Lavastorm - >when the zone started laughing at him Good lord, you aren't on Tunare are you? lol... I just heard someone do that the other day! >On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:13:37 +0000 in ><hlmkr1pg630ph28sbciai180pukk61v443@4ax.com>, Palindrome [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Good lord, you aren't on Tunare are you? lol... I just heard someone >do that the other day! Oh my God - there's two of them! I'm on The Nameless :D Palindrome > On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:00:16 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net> >>If someone hunts me down and asks me face to face, their chances of >>getting a port or buff are close to 100%. If someone shoots me a tell [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > someone was willing to pay me for my time, I was happy to take 5 > minutes to port them. My clerical solution to the frequent pleas for Rez help was simple, thats 2 cp if you bring the body to me, and 2000pp if I have to come to you. There were a couple of occaisions where I got paid the 2000... as I recall, when someone was willing to fork over that kind of cash it was usually a matter of getting into a group and battling our way thru some very harsh circumstances to get to the body, while 2K was probably too much for the service, it wasn't a cakewalk. This was also back when a lost body was a big deal, with no handy graveyard et al. Lance aka Bergh Brelltender (will rez for ale) >My clerical solution to the frequent pleas for Rez help was simple, >thats 2 cp if you bring the body to me, and 2000pp if I have to come to you. Lol, that's brilliant, heh :) Palindrome On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 04:00:25 GMT in <qbtjr1dj22p6vsbv9vv34ta9qr1av5r1l5@4ax.com>, murdocj <temp@mirque.delete.this.com> graced the world with this thought: >>Boy, I have. One guy kept it up for about five minutes before I >>finally put him on ignore. "Aww, come on, bro..." > >I never gave them 5 minutes. If I got back something other than a >variant on "ok, sorry to bother you" I put them on ignore. Yeah, I'd say five minutes was a pretty liberal guess. It probably just <seemed> like five minutes. >That being said, I was almost never anon for 56 levels as a druid and >66 levels as an enchanter, and I can only recall a handful of times >where I really got hassled. but I bet every damn one of them sticks in your mind. It happens a lot less now than it did five years ago. >On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 04:00:25 GMT in ><qbtjr1dj22p6vsbv9vv34ta9qr1av5r1l5@4ax.com>, murdocj [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >but I bet every damn one of them sticks in your mind. The best one was running thru South Karana, I think not long after Kunark was released. Guy does a tell to me for a port to Dreadlands. I'm kind of busy, but I figure if he'll make it worth my while, sure, so I tell him 20pp. He starts arguing with me that "the price for a port is always 10pp". Apparently he was confusing me with a public transportation service. It was at about that time that I formulated my "one strike and you're ignored" policy. >If someone hunts me down and asks me face to face, their chances of >getting a port or buff are close to 100%. If someone shoots me a tell >and wants me to come to them and buff or port them, their chances are >closer to the other end of the scale. Yes, that's pretty much my sentiments as well. >I talk to who I choose--so because of that I'm supposed to play a >single player game? Yeah, that's one of your more brilliant comments. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >because I'm a druid and he's too strapped for time to run to the next >zone." It usually IS a dickhead too - and behaving almost exactly as you describe! Palindrome >>On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 19:07:50 GMT in >><aMVtf.1093$%W1.559@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Joshua" [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > levels... don't recall ever getting hassled if I said I was too busy > to port. That's about as close to a reasonable alternative response as I've seen. If you are very busy or think the person is unnecessarily wasting your time, set the fee as high as you would need it to be to make you feel your time was well spent, regardless of how ridiculous it might sound, and politely tell them that under the circumstances you will only do it for that much. If they have a problem with that, you have an /ignore list. No angst. No worries. However, in the interest of full disclosure, I've recently begun trying a similar approach when it comes to dealing with inconsiderate motorists on the road each day (meaning not letting my hackles get raised). I must admit that it's not working out quite as well as I'd hoped. :/ SignatureRichard Carpenter "Write something worth reading, or do something worth writing." -- Benjamin Franklin > However, in the interest of full disclosure, I've recently begun trying a > similar approach when it comes to dealing with inconsiderate motorists on > the road each day (meaning not letting my hackles get raised). I must > admit that it's not working out quite as well as I'd hoped. :/ You know it's working when you no longer have to chase the m#$h$% f*&(k#$@ b@$!@*%s . . . past your exit. ;) Mike W. On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:41:32 GMT in <Xns9740629ABB894rumbledorhotmailcom@216.148.227.77>, Richard Carpenter <rumbledor@hotspamsuxmail.com> graced the world with this thought: >>>On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 19:07:50 GMT in >>><aMVtf.1093$%W1.559@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, "Joshua" [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >That's about as close to a reasonable alternative response as I've seen. Well, exept for another post where he said he'd <never> been hassled. Now we're up to "a handfull already... >On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:41:32 GMT in ><Xns9740629ABB894rumbledorhotmailcom@216.148.227.77>, Richard [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >Well, exept for another post where he said he'd <never> been hassled. >Now we're up to "a handfull already... I don't believe I said that I've never been hassled... just that for me, it's been so rare and so easy to deal with that compared to all the other hassles of the game (LD, camping, training, idiots in groups, etc) it's not a big deal. >That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, Welcome to my ignore list...you play on Tunare right? >>That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, > >Welcome to my ignore list...you play on Tunare right? Toonaire is a dirty whore, thats why I worship her. On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:44:00 -0500 in <p2tir19osj09aj05f7e6kvfdgsv25hh8dh@4ax.com>, ad_libitum <> graced the world with this thought: >>>That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, >> >>Welcome to my ignore list...you play on Tunare right? > >Toonaire is a dirty whore, thats why I worship her. what's funny is, her last post here was like seven months ago. Seems a bit oversensitive to me. You're next with that attitude, mister!! >On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:44:00 -0500 in ><p2tir19osj09aj05f7e6kvfdgsv25hh8dh@4ax.com>, ad_libitum <> graced the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >what's funny is, her last post here was like seven months ago. Seems a >bit oversensitive to me. You're next with that attitude, mister!! I'm sorry...I have a life and a job. I don't have time to post replies to every thread I read, but when someone makes a disgusting racial slur, I have to say something. On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:46:50 -0700 in <4uprr198g16jo6ofolcvbhdhrradao9cen@4ax.com>, Shella <shella4711@hotmail.com> graced the world with this thought: >>On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 13:44:00 -0500 in >><p2tir19osj09aj05f7e6kvfdgsv25hh8dh@4ax.com>, ad_libitum <> graced the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >replies to every thread I read, but when someone makes a disgusting >racial slur, I have to say something. Nice reach, Shiela... did you get fired today, or just didn't get laid? How come you seem to have plenty of time to whine and bitch, but no time for valid posting about the game? And what racial slur are you referring to? The one where I refused to be someone's nigger? Well, I hate to tell you, but I do. Do you <enjoy> being someone's nigger? It's just a word, sweetie, and once again, I'll draw you a picture: It's not the word, it's the intent behind it. >On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:46:50 -0700 in ><4uprr198g16jo6ofolcvbhdhrradao9cen@4ax.com>, Shella ><shella4711@hotmail.com> graced the world with this thought: >>I'm sorry...I have a life and a job. I don't have time to post >>replies to every thread I read, but when someone makes a disgusting >>racial slur, I have to say something. [snip] What gives YOU the right - and on what basis - to state categorically it was intended as "a disgusting racial slur"? Have you ever seen evidence of where bizbee stands regarding racism? Do you actually KNOW where he stands? Do you know what race he is, or what racial mix his friends are? Nahh, didn't think so. >It's just a word, sweetie, and once again, I'll draw you a picture: >It's not the word, it's the intent behind it. Well said. Palindrome On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 14:51:16 +0000 in <sb92s15ina4fohpapm7fc01r59eg6gvbph@4ax.com>, Palindrome <damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> graced the world with this thought: >>On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:46:50 -0700 in >><4uprr198g16jo6ofolcvbhdhrradao9cen@4ax.com>, Shella [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Palindrome I was particularly attracted to her having a life and a job... apparently anyone that posts more often than once every five or six months is an unemployed loser, although I can't really picture her having too many friends. Maybe Faned. Hi All You'll have to bear with me if I am answering posts a bit out of sequence. I seem to get no posts for over a day, then 3 or 4 posts, then, later on, I get posts which were made both before and after the ones I just got. God, Tiscali is really a weird ISP... I never had this problem with BT :) Palindrome >>That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, > > Welcome to my ignore list...you play on Tunare right? Woot! Congrats Biz! You finally made it onto Shella's ignore list. I had heard you have been trying to do that quest for quite awhile. >>>That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, >> >> Welcome to my ignore list...you play on Tunare right? > >Woot! Congrats Biz! You finally made it onto Shella's ignore list. I had >heard you have been trying to do that quest for quite awhile. It's hard to get on my ignore list. ; ) I usually prefer to mock the morons who annoy me in game. Shella On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:26:23 -0700 in <0v8mr1lmve366c8isdnprubfoelg7co6qv@4ax.com>, Shella <shella4711@hotmail.com> graced the world with this thought: >>>>That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Shella Oh God... I'm so sorry I <<ANNOYED>> you... lol Too bad you have no idea who I am in the game, eh? Then you could MOCK me... lol What a f.cking moron. >On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:26:23 -0700 in ><0v8mr1lmve366c8isdnprubfoelg7co6qv@4ax.com>, Shella ><shella4711@hotmail.com> graced the world with this thought: >>It's hard to get on my ignore list. ; ) I usually prefer to mock the >>morons who annoy me in game. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >me... lol >What a f.cking moron. I'm sorry...you must have misunderstood me. I mock the morons who annoy me in game...YOU however are an offensive a.s. The former, I mock; the latter, ignore-listed. So, what about henceforth ignoring any and all references to John Lennon, Shiela? Bizbee did raise a salient point. Palindrome <damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > So, what about henceforth ignoring any and all references to John > Lennon, Shiela? Bizbee did raise a salient point. No he didn't. Don't share in that sort of ignorance, it's contagious. =P On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 20:56:52 -0700 in <l7qrr191uql9dnif7ev7moh7d1doveg790@4ax.com>, Shella <shella4711@hotmail.com> graced the world with this thought: >>On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:26:23 -0700 in >><0v8mr1lmve366c8isdnprubfoelg7co6qv@4ax.com>, Shella [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >annoy me in game...YOU however are an offensive a.s. The former, I >mock; the latter, ignore-listed. ....and yet, you're the one who didn't put me in your kill file, as promised. What's the matter, are you one of those women that lives with a guy thay likes to beat his girlfriend in a trailer someplace? If you don't want to read my comments, don't ask for them, dumbass. >>>That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, >> >> Welcome to my ignore list...you play on Tunare right? > >Woot! Congrats Biz! You finally made it onto Shella's ignore list. I had >heard you have been trying to do that quest for quite awhile. Lol... best thing is, I don't believe I've ever heard of her, so I could quite honestly give a flying f.ck. Do you suppose John Lennon is on her list too, for "woman is nigger to the world?" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote: > >>>That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > could quite honestly give a flying f.ck. Do you suppose John Lennon is > on her list too, for "woman is nigger to the world?" It's sad that you would equate your comment and John Lennon's. If you don't understand the difference, there really is no hope of ever making you understand. Ignorance, seemingly easily remedied, is often the most powerful adversary of its own solution. I ignored the ignorance of your original comment because, well, you're bizbee so a certain amount of ignorance is expected. The comparison to John Lennon I couldn't let slide. =P >>>>That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >could quite honestly give a flying f.ck. Do you suppose John Lennon is >on her list too, for "woman is nigger to the world?" I'm familiar with the Lennon quote, and Bizbee is no John Lennon. On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:33:33 -0700 in <8fhtr196eos7rn9o1o3p8a2ebsafg4hpeg@4ax.com>, Shella <shella4711@hotmail.com> graced the world with this thought: >>>>>That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >I'm familiar with the Lennon quote, and Bizbee is no John Lennon. and what's your point? Besides that thing under your hat? On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:22:14 -0700 in <cprir1d7p2fnntdgmd55s0l06uqlmgubsu@4ax.com>, Shella <shella4711@hotmail.com> graced the world with this thought: >>That doesn't make me someone's private nigger, > >Welcome to my ignore list...you play on Tunare right? Wow, another person that just doesn't get it. Sorry to upset your sensibilities, however the mere existence of the word nigger doesn't mean sh.t, it's the way it's used. Grow up. And yes I'm on Tunare, why, were you the person that wanted a free ride? >On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:22:14 -0700 in ><cprir1d7p2fnntdgmd55s0l06uqlmgubsu@4ax.com>, Shella [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >And yes I'm on Tunare, why, were you the person that wanted a free >ride? No, I wasn't asking for a free ride, I have my own druid, thank you very much. And just because a word exists, doesn't mean you need to use it...especially when it has such offensive connotations. If you feel the need to use such a word, it is certainly your right as an ignorant racist, however, it is also my right to call you out as such. >No, I wasn't asking for a free ride, I have my own druid, thank you >very much. And just because a word exists, doesn't mean you need to >use it...especially when it has such offensive connotations. If you >feel the need to use such a word, it is certainly your right as an >ignorant racist, however, it is also my right to call you out as such. You better get on to all these Afro-Americans we see in documentaries and films calling each other "nigger" then - they are being VERY naughty, as they use the word in every other sentence at least! Granted, some words are better left to fade and die, but the language evolves, and for better or worse, what goes around comes around. Palindrome On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:10:54 +0000 in <aensr1p74lfja7gh4maskcfba7g5u912im@4ax.com>, Palindrome <damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> graced the world with this thought: >>No, I wasn't asking for a free ride, I have my own druid, thank you >>very much. And just because a word exists, doesn't mean you need to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Palindrome At this point, I'd settle for someone demonstrating how my comment was racist. To her, apparently the simple utterance of the word "nigger" (oops, I'm making another racist comment here), no matter how it's applied, is racist. Must be home schooled by flower children. >On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:10:54 +0000 in ><aensr1p74lfja7gh4maskcfba7g5u912im@4ax.com>, Palindrome ><damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> graced the world with this thought: >>You better get on to all these Afro-Americans we see in documentaries >>and films calling each other "nigger" then - they are being VERY [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >(oops, I'm making another racist comment here), no matter how it's >applied, is racist. Must be home schooled by flower children. Yep, I bet her knee jerked so hard there it smacked her in the mouth :D Palindrome <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:10:54 +0000 in > <aensr1p74lfja7gh4maskcfba7g5u912im@4ax.com>, Palindrome [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > (oops, I'm making another racist comment here), no matter how it's > applied, is racist. Must be home schooled by flower children. "I'm not your slave" is a comment that has no racial connotations but expresses the point that bizbee, in his ignorance, was trying to make by saying "I'm not your nigger". That phrase, on the other hand, equates slavery with being black, and with the connotation of the word is undeniably derogatory. (I am giving bizbee the benefit of the doubt assumption that he is not actually racist, I could be wrong. =P ). John Lennon on the other hand was acknowledging and speaking out *against* unfairness by equating the lack of rights/respect for women with the plight of the people called "nigger". Anyone that has seen GI Jane (Demi Moore gets naked, highly recommended) saw John Lennon's sentiment expressed in the phrase "You're just the new nigger". Can you see the difference yet? If not, no biggie. Ignorance is nothing new. The world manages to keep right on turning. ><tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote: >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:10:54 +0000 in [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >derogatory. (I am giving bizbee the benefit of the doubt assumption that he >is not actually racist, I could be wrong. =P ). How very gracious of you, I'm sure. "Benefit of the doubt" indeed!! Who on earth do you think YOU are? Bizbee has posted here for YEARS, as you very well know, and has NEVER come across as a racist. If and when he does so, then you can ride your little toy hobby-horse to your heart's content. >John Lennon on the other hand was acknowledging and speaking out *against* >unfairness by equating the lack of rights/respect for women with the plight >of the people called "nigger". Anyone that has seen GI Jane (Demi Moore >gets naked, highly recommended) saw John Lennon's sentiment expressed in the >phrase "You're just the new nigger". Bizbee was also speaking out about unfairness, in the same manner - he was using "nigger" to describe the attitude implied in the guy's request for a port. He was illustrating the lack of rights/respect implied to porting classes... Heh, what's the matter - only John Lennon is allowed to do so in this manner, and no-one else on the planet can do so any more? >Can you see the difference yet? I surely can. Can YOU? Or are you just being faux-pious to earn brown-nose points? Stop reading things into something that just plain aren't there. The last thing we need in here is self-appointed Semantics Police. >If not, no biggie. Ignorance is nothing new. The world manages to keep right on turning. Could we have a little more cringe-making pomposity there? I don't think you have broken your previous, not-inconsiderable record yet. Palindrome <damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > ><tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:10:54 +0000 in [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > when he does so, then you can ride your little toy hobby-horse to your > heart's content. I hate to break it to ya, but to a large portion of people over the age of 30 and/or from the entire east coast/southeast of the U.S., he did indeed just come across as a racist. I would have let it slide, because it is my personal belief that everyone has the right to hate whoever they damn well feel like hating. Regardless, that's how it came across to me. > >John Lennon on the other hand was acknowledging and speaking out *against* > >unfairness by equating the lack of rights/respect for women with the plight [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Lennon is allowed to do so in this manner, and no-one else on the > planet can do so any more? Hardly. John Lennon was making a direct analogy between oppressed classes. Bizbee was, at best and assuming no actual racism, comparing the plight of a druid asked to port with the oppression of a race of people. That's not the same manner, that's obscene. =P > >Can you see the difference yet? > > I surely can. Can YOU? Or are you just being faux-pious to earn > brown-nose points? Stop reading things into something that just plain > aren't there. The last thing we need in here is self-appointed > Semantics Police. See above. I respect your right to hate. Who you hate, even if it includes me, doesn't bother me in the slightest. But I don't respect trying to claim a racist comment to be anything other than what it is. > >If not, no biggie. Ignorance is nothing new. The world manages to keep right on turning. > > Could we have a little more cringe-making pomposity there? I don't > think you have broken your previous, not-inconsiderable record yet. I have a huge ego. I rarely claim to be humble, and when I do I claim to be the *most* humble. =) >I hate to break it to ya, but to a large portion of people over the age of >30 and/or from the entire east coast/southeast of the U.S., he did indeed >just come across as a racist. PK, let me get this right: So, they *all* read his post, then called you up, individually (or maybe in desperate groups), and asked - nay, pleaded! - for you to speak on their behalf, did they? The *entire* East Coast and Southeast of the USA mobilised a large proportion of their over 30's (got to be half a million plus) and summoned you, their hero, to fight the good fight for them? My God, you have totally flipped out of reality! Here's me thinking you are merely Captain Faned (sorry, "Feigned") of the Internet Semantics Bureau, Analogy Division, and in reality you are spokesman for millions of loyal followers of alt.games.everquest over there in America - Holy sh.t... And there was me 1) thinking you were just pompous and 2) that the newsgroup wan't as frequented as it used to be :D >I would have let it slide, because it is my personal belief that everyone >has the right to hate whoever they damn well feel like hating. Regardless, >that's how it came across to me. Ah, heroic *and* you are so noble with it, too. You wanted to let the matter slide, but with the entire east coast *and* southeast of the good 'ole USA looking to you, you had to wear your underpants outside your tights once more... There's many a presidential candidate would like that number of loyal followers. Faned - take more meds, get a life and bugger off mate. That's the most hilarious bit of self-delusional crap I have ever seen in Usenet. Palindrome You know what this thread *really* needs? Someone to invoke Hitler's name. Some wanton homophobia. Then, only then, will it be complete. >You know what this thread *really* needs? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Then, only then, will it be complete. By God - he's got it!! You've been around Usenet, I can tell :) Hey, did you know that there is a player in Eve Online (the space trading/pvp mmog) called Fippy Darkpaw? No, seriously, there is - it's not you, is it? Palindrome On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:06:41 -0600 in <dmf7s1ls26tl2s0jpeg9s1bhjghrbh8mn4@4ax.com>, Fippy Darkpaw graced the world with this thought: >You know what this thread *really* needs? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Then, only then, will it be complete. I knew something was missing. <damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >I hate to break it to ya, but to a large portion of people over the age of > >30 and/or from the entire east coast/southeast of the U.S., he did indeed [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > sh.t... And there was me 1) thinking you were just pompous and 2) > that the newsgroup wan't as frequented as it used to be :D There is a reason the southeast of the USA is called the "bible belt". Feel free to try and continue your inane personal attack in hopes of coming up with an actual point though. And talk about semantics. "Did" or "would if they would have read it" is a silly distinction to latch on to. Then again, if you've got nothing better you work with what little you have eh? "Palindrome" has little room to make fun of my play-on-words name. =P > >I would have let it slide, because it is my personal belief that everyone > >has the right to hate whoever they damn well feel like hating. Regardless, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Faned - take more meds, get a life and bugger off mate. That's the > most hilarious bit of self-delusional crap I have ever seen in Usenet. Your post? Where you think I was claiming to be the leader of the southeast, when actually I was just *aware* of the fact that the "bible belt" is full of religious conservatives. Yeah, delusional. >And talk about semantics. "Did" or "would if they would have read it" is a >silly distinction to latch on to. If you're so stupid as to fail to make such a basic distinction, thus making yourself sound like a total nutcase in the process, you'll have to get used to standing aside and letting the better educated amongst us show you your errors. >Your post? Where you think I was claiming to be the leader of the >southeast, when actually I was just *aware* of the fact that the "bible >belt" is full of religious conservatives. Yeah, delusional. Yes, you are - you can't differentiate between "the east/southest of the USA found it offensive" and "would have found it offensive if they had read it" until it's pointed out to you. God help you, YOU don't seem to be aware of what you are "aware" of, at least not based on your writing skills. The only reason you didn't choose to "let it slide" was apparently because "they" found it "offensive". Even weirder, you evidently seem to think *I* have to interpret your incoherent messages for you, in order to arrive at what you actually tried and failed to say properly in the first place. Sorry, not my job. Try and stay focussed and write what you mean next time, since you purport to put such store in perceived meanings. I look forward to your next blatherings with anticipatory amusement. If (and it's a big "if") you manage to post something next time that isn't as pompous as is your norm, or larded with your latest, trite, cringe-making homilies, I might reply to it. I actually might even reply if you merely manage to sort what *actually* happened instead of what you *imagined* actually happened. As it is, from the waffle, bluster and all the rewriting of what you meant/didn't mean to say, you are evidently all talked out on the subject of bizbee's supposed gaffe. Palindrome <damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >And talk about semantics. "Did" or "would if they would have read it" is a > >silly distinction to latch on to. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to get used to standing aside and letting the better educated amongst > us show you your errors. Which is a bigger stretch, to assume that nobody that read it is from the southeast U.S. (or any of a myriad other places where the general culture would deem that an offensive comment), or to assume that there probably is someone that read it that would take offense? You should look into that whole education thing. > >Your post? Where you think I was claiming to be the leader of the > >southeast, when actually I was just *aware* of the fact that the "bible [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the USA found it offensive" and "would have found it offensive if they > had read it" until it's pointed out to you. Can't? Didn't because it would be an inanity. Huge difference. =P > God help you, YOU don't > seem to be aware of what you are "aware" of, at least not based on > your writing skills. The only reason you didn't choose to "let it > slide" was apparently because "they" found it "offensive". Hello, groups.google.com, please read because you've obviously forgotten that yesterday existed already. Look for my direct response to bizbee's post. See one? No? Imagine that. Now try arguing with one foot here in *this* reality. I responded when bizbee tried to compare his statement to one by John Lennon. Sorry that you seem to have forgotten that. ] Which is a bigger stretch, to assume that nobody that read it is from the ] southeast U.S. (or any of a myriad other places where the general culture ] would deem that an offensive comment), or to assume that there probably is ] someone that read it that would take offense? ] ] You should look into that whole education thing. Well, I live in the southeast US. And I didn't take offense, because I can read and write. I have no reason to 'read into' what was posted as I have no agenda. in other words, from his wording its obvious he wasn't using nigger as a racist remark. JimP. Signaturedjim70 at tyhe cableone dot net. Disclaimer: Standard. http://crestar.drivein-jim.net/new.html AD&D Jan 9, 2006 http://evergame.drivein-jim.net/ EQ 1 Jan 6, 2006 Registered Linux user#185746 http://linux.drivein-jim.net/ >Well, I live in the southeast US. And I didn't take offense I grew up in the southeast and heard it there more then any place I've lived since. -- My own business always bores me to death; I p |
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