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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / EverQuest / December 2005Plane of Fear?
It's been a long time since I've been involved in much game time but I understand there's been alot of changes. The last time I went into Fear with a group, the max level in EQ was 50. Forgive my ignorance, but is it possible for the following group of three to survive Fear long enough for the Shaman's epic.1 drop, or would it be one of those coveted "what the hell were we thinking" moments? 60 Shaman (no epic) 62 Druid 55 Warrior Ching Nope. __________________________________________________________ Submitted by: Isloor This message was submitted through the Erollisi Marr Forum Bah ..meant to say Nope, that group isn't handling Fear. It's going to be a WTF moment. __________________________________________________________ Submitted by: Isloor This message was submitted through the Erollisi Marr Forum >It's been a long time since I've been involved in much game time but I >understand there's been alot of changes. The last time I went into Fear with >a group, the max level in EQ was 50. Ahh, the good old days! >Forgive my ignorance, but is it possible for the following group of three to >survive Fear long enough for the Shaman's epic.1 drop, or would it be one of >those coveted "what the hell were we thinking" moments? >60 Shaman (no epic) 62 Druid 55 Warrior Hmm. If the golems aren't up, maybe. If they are, you can probably do some creative kiting or training to get your tears. -- Mark Rafn dagon@dagon.net <http://www.dagon.net/> The aggro radius alone from the warrior is going to have 6 mobs beating on you within the first 20 seconds. It's going to get worse from there. Seriously, those toons need to level more. __________________________________________________________ Submitted by: Isloor This message was submitted through the Erollisi Marr Forum > The aggro radius alone from the warrior is going to have 6 mobs beating > on you within the first 20 seconds. It's going to get worse from > there. Seriously, those toons need to level more. Yes, Absolutely you will also at minimum need some crowd control. I've seen fear breakin wipes with 3+ groups of 65 and a bard for kiting. It can be easy or it can be hard. Depends on the group/raid makeup, RNG, and a good bit of luck. In alt.games.everquest, "stanmann" <stanmann@gmail.com> wrote: >> The aggro radius alone from the warrior is going to have 6 mobs beating >> on you within the first 20 seconds. It's going to get worse from >> there. Seriously, those toons need to level more. >Yes, Absolutely you will also at minimum need some crowd control. I've >seen fear breakin wipes with 3+ groups of 65 and a bard for kiting. >It can be easy or it can be hard. Depends on the group/raid makeup, >RNG, and a good bit of luck. I fully agree with stanmann and would add, Depends on the group/raid makeup, RNG, luck, and your nerves. When there's 15 mobs in camp at west wall, half of them aren't CC'd yet, everyone's running half health and mana's getting tight, you need everyone to push harder and stay on top of it, it's fantastic fun. Seen an SK and Shaman do a Fear break-in, around level 67'ish, by having the shaman bind outside, running in, slowing and tanking one or two mobs, FD'ing the SK and gating the shaman out, and then repeating that to slowly whittle them down, nice tactic. Normal west wall break in with a single group of level 70's in reasonably ok single-group style gear isn't too hard if your healer, tank and enchanter work well together.  SignatureTony Evans (ICQ : 170850) GCv312 GCS d s+:++ a C+++ UAL++++$ P+ L++ E W(++) N+++(N--) w++$ R+ tv-- b++ "Let me sweeten the deal a bit for you," - Beelzebub. Homepage : http://www.darkstorm.co.uk/tony > In alt.games.everquest, "stanmann" <stanmann@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > ok single-group style gear isn't too hard if your healer, tank and > enchanter work well together. Used to duo fear with my bro, (ranger / cleric), but we had lots of experience there.... >Seen an SK and Shaman do a Fear break-in, around level 67'ish, by having >the shaman bind outside, running in, slowing and tanking one or two mobs, >FD'ing the SK and gating the shaman out, and then repeating that to slowly >whittle them down, nice tactic. Last time i was in fear i was trying to get that spear for my rogues master sketch, i left him outside in case break in went bad (since no DoN on that account so no GL summon) and 3 boxed the break in with my ranger, shm, wizard, then a friend 3 boxing mage, enc, ranger came along out of boredom, all was well until we spawned the ireblind imp =) we got him to about 30% though lol. >> The aggro radius alone from the warrior is going to have 6 mobs beating >> on you within the first 20 seconds. It's going to get worse from [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It can be easy or it can be hard. Depends on the group/raid makeup, > RNG, and a good bit of luck. If 3 groups of 65's cant handle fear they must suck badly. Last time I went to fear (back about 2 years when i actually played EQ), we went in with 1 group of 65's and it was very easy. We had a good enchanter tho (me) :P > If 3 groups of 65's cant handle fear they must suck badly. > Last time I went to fear (back about 2 years when i actually played EQ), we > went in with 1 group of 65's and it was very easy. > We had a good enchanter tho (me) :P It was about 2 years back, and was a pickup raid, with some communication problems. Once we managed the break in, everything went smoothly until I got feared and killed on my mount, and got corpse bugged for 3 days. All in all, fun, but not something I ever want to try again. > > The aggro radius alone from the warrior is going to have 6 mobs beating > > on you within the first 20 seconds. It's going to get worse from [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It can be easy or it can be hard. Depends on the group/raid makeup, > RNG, and a good bit of luck. Not one snarer among them? Or were they all running around like chickens with no heads? Last time we did fear I pretty much broke the zone in by myself. I just kited the damn scarelings so they couldn't proc shadowstep and killed until I had no adds. > >It's been a long time since I've been involved in much game time but I > >understand there's been alot of changes. The last time I went into Fear with [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hmm. If the golems aren't up, maybe. If they are, you can probably do some > creative kiting or training to get your tears. If the golems aren't up, then what is the point of going to Fear for the Shaman epic? Unless they've revamped Fear again since I left... the whole idea was that you had to kill the Golems to get the Iksar child to spawn. SignatureJeff Davian / Dearic > > >It's been a long time since I've been involved in much game time but I > > >understand there's been alot of changes. The last time I went into Fear [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Unless they've revamped Fear again since I left... the whole idea was that you > had to kill the Golems to get the Iksar child to spawn. I think only one of them deathtouches...or one doesnt...but its not too hard, did it for several shamans and got some AoN's also (wuwu 300kpp). Mobs are only 55 and dont really hit very hard, just have to be a bit careful and not panic. > > > >those coveted "what the hell were we thinking" moments? > > > >60 Shaman (no epic) 62 Druid 55 Warrior [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Mobs are only 55 and dont really hit very hard, just have to be a bit > careful and not panic. Fright and Dread death touch, Terror does not. I know with mudflation out of control when I left, and two expansions since then, Fear is probably much, much, easier than when I went. (Not since Luclin was the newest expansion.) but I still have a hard time believing the group described can do it. A low level warrior and two healers no crowd control or dps. Unless you're going to have the druid DPS, but that leaves only a shaman healing. None of them max level... SignatureJeff Davian / Dearic > > > > >those coveted "what the hell were we thinking" moments? > > > > >60 Shaman (no epic) 62 Druid 55 Warrior [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > dps. Unless you're going to have the druid DPS, but that leaves only a > shaman healing. None of them max level... Snare is enough crowd control, as long as the druid is intelligent. >>It's been a long time since I've been involved in much game time but I >>understand there's been alot of changes. The last time I went into [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hmm. If the golems aren't up, maybe. If they are, you can probably > do some creative kiting or training to get your tears. The tear drops off a mob that pops after killing a golem, so if no golems, likely no tear either. The good news is, one of the golems does not Deathtouch, so it is doable with a small number of high level decently geared folks. You won't be doing it with just the three you mentioned though. SignatureGraeme Faelban, 70 Shaman <Sanctuary of Marr> Erollisi Marr In alt.games.everquest, Richard <richardrapier@netscape.net> wrote: [golems in fear] >The good news is, one of the golems does not Deathtouch, so it is doable >with a small number of high level decently geared folks. You won't be >doing it with just the three you mentioned though. And the double-good news, if that mob drops the Amulet of Necropotence they still sell for 100k+ in the bazaar. Nice split if there's only one group and you sell it to split the cash between you (as we did when we dropped the golem for a shaman friend of ours, 250k between five). SignatureTony Evans (ICQ : 170850) Recommended Author : David Gemmell Okay, I pulled the pin. Now what? Hey, where are you going? Homepage : http://www.darkstorm.co.uk/tony Thanks for the responses. I think I'll continue to try and pick up a group instead of getting my friends wiped. Oh well..... would have made an interesting evening to say the least. Ching >Forgive my ignorance, but is it possible for the following group of three to >survive Fear long enough for the Shaman's epic.1 drop, or would it be one of >those coveted "what the hell were we thinking" moments? I duo'd a bit of Fear with a 70+1100 Shammy friend a few weeks ago. I was 70+35, 9.3kHP 1600AC at the time. We were there for the final hand-in of my Paladin Epic 1.0. It was cake. News of the weird: I was chasing down a death-runner when Cazic Thule popped right on top of me. The big hairball didn't aggro and I got away clean. Go figure. That being said... >60 Shaman (no epic) >62 Druid >55 Warrior Definitely setting yourself up for a WHTWWT moment. Best regards, Tim == (substitute 'tcsys.com' for 'nospam.co.uk') _________________ Seeq Endestroi Paladin of Mithanial Marr, The Rathe http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=507035 Grave Wisdom / Grave Intentions - a Rathe Guild http://www.gravewisdom.com In alt.games.everquest, Seeq Endestroi <seeq@nospam.co.uk> wrote: >>Forgive my ignorance, but is it possible for the following group of three to >>survive Fear long enough for the Shaman's epic.1 drop, or would it be one of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >was 70+35, 9.3kHP 1600AC at the time. We were there for the final >hand-in of my Paladin Epic 1.0. It was cake. Of course it was. But then, that combo could duo MPG and probably RSS. SignatureTony Evans (ICQ : 170850) Recommended Author : Guy Gavriel Kay Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder... Homepage : http://www.darkstorm.co.uk/tony >>I duo'd a bit of Fear with a 70+1100 Shammy friend a few weeks ago. I >>was 70+35, 9.3kHP 1600AC at the time. We were there for the final >>hand-in of my Paladin Epic 1.0. It was cake. > >Of course it was. But then, that combo could duo MPG and probably RSS. The Shaman would solo. I'd sit invis and watch {grin}. > >>I duo'd a bit of Fear with a 70+1100 Shammy friend a few weeks ago. I > >>was 70+35, 9.3kHP 1600AC at the time. We were there for the final [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > The Shaman would solo. I'd sit invis and watch {grin}. ogmz you so uber........do you have pics of yr legendary epenix?!?!?!? <ask.me.for@it.com> wrote: > > >>I duo'd a bit of Fear with a 70+1100 Shammy friend a few weeks ago. I > > >>was 70+35, 9.3kHP 1600AC at the time. We were there for the final [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ogmz you so uber........do you have pics of yr legendary epenix?!?!?!? My sarcasm meter is on the fritz. I can't tell if you're trying to put him down for declaring his uberness, or laughing at his display of un-uberness. Honestly, depending on which side of the scale you fall on, it could be either. Plenty of paladins would love stats like that. And likewise, there's plenty of finger wigglers out there with even better stats, not to mention the paladins that reminisce about the old days when they had such stats. =) > <ask.me.for@it.com> wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > My sarcasm meter is on the fritz. I can't tell if you're trying to put him > down for declaring his uberness, or laughing at his display of un-uberness. Im not sure either, I was quite drunk at the time of posting! :p But I didnt mean it in a horrible way. Anyway as a ranger I feel the need to cuss all paladins, old grudges die hard :D >ogmz you so uber........do you have pics of yr legendary epenix?!?!?!? My epenix is none of yer business, Ranja. Now please show me how your Shadowrest Gate spell works...again. > >ogmz you so uber........do you have pics of yr legendary epenix?!?!?!? > > My epenix is none of yer business, Ranja. Now please show me how your > Shadowrest Gate spell works...again. No clue...never used it :p Think I died maybe 5 times in 6 months :P Saw lots of pala die trying to tank though ^^ >No clue...never used it :p Think I died maybe 5 times in 6 months :P Saw >lots of pala die trying to tank though ^^ Yes, death is in the job description of a Paladin. Gotta keep the Ranja's alive at all costs! :P > >No clue...never used it :p Think I died maybe 5 times in 6 months :P Saw > >lots of pala die trying to tank though ^^ > > Yes, death is in the job description of a Paladin. Gotta keep the > Ranja's alive at all costs! :P Well, someone has to stand around, look sexy and pretend to do good DPS :D |
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