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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / EverQuest / June 2004soloing in GOD?
Can one solo in Gates of Discord? thanks, Robert Bank of America defines chintzy IMHO. Email for details. Robert Megee A thousand monkeys banging on keyboards posted the following under the name Dies Deambulo <rmegee2@attbi.com>: >Can one solo in Gates of Discord? Of course. All depends on the class/level soloing and the mobs being soloed. What a silly question.  Signature"Bad enough when the dead come walking," he said to Jon as they crossed the village, "now the Old Bear wants them talking as well? No good will come of *that*, I'll warrant. And who's to say the bones wouldn't lie? Why should death make a man truthful, or even clever? The dead are likely dull fellows, full of tedious complaints - 'the ground's too cold, my gravestone should be larger, why does *he* get more worms than I do....'" - Dolorous Edd Tollett, "Clash of Kings" (George R R Martin) >A thousand monkeys banging on keyboards posted the following under the >name Dies Deambulo <rmegee2@attbi.com>: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Of course. All depends on the class/level soloing and the mobs being >soloed. What a silly question. Perhaps I can elucidate. I haven't played since GOD came out. I solo exclusively and made the mistake of buying LDON before I knew that I wouldn't be able to use it. I just wanted to hear from another player that one could solo in GOD. Still silly? Then I apologize. Robert Bank of America defines chintzy IMHO. Email for details. Robert Megee >>>Can one solo in Gates of Discord? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > wouldn't be able to use it. I just wanted to hear from another player > that one could solo in GOD. Still silly? Then I apologize. You can solo in GoD just fine from I guess somewhere in the 50s, starting in Natimbi. Some classes can solo fine in Riwwi and Kod'Taz too (though at higher levels). Signaturenino Jeril, 65 Bard, Venril Sathir >>>>Can one solo in Gates of Discord? >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >in Natimbi. Some classes can solo fine in Riwwi and Kod'Taz too (though at >higher levels). Thanks. I feel better with this purchase. Robert Bank of America defines chintzy IMHO. Email for details. Robert Megee > Can one solo in Gates of Discord? It is certain that two can't solo in GoD (or anywhere else) >>Can one solo in Gates of Discord? > > It is certain that two can't solo in GoD (or anywhere else) Nonsense, two can easily solo in many places. Why I've seen up to six soloing in Cobalt Scar, with minimal squabbling over who is stealing who's mobs. Worse, not only can people solo in the same zone, they can even solo together; support each other with buffs, or agree to split overlarge pulls, stagger their pulls so each is busy medding and ready to help in an emergency if the other gets into trouble. This isn't to say its clever to do so; I recall my cleric soloing in COM, a ranger coming in, refusing group, and soloing next to me. He and I soloed together for about a half hour, and I have to admit he was killing twice as many mobs as I was in that time; I got about three, he got about 6. Then I convinced him to try grouping up, in the next half hour the two of us killed about 30 mobs; getting roughly the exp for killing 15. For me, five times as good, but even for him, more than twice as good. Neither of us had to zone out due to our own or our neighbor's overpull, either! Still, consider a bard; very often he's better off not taking any sort of partner, since the odds of the partner helping more than marginally are low, and the odds of the partner screwing things up are high. Wouldn't be a bad thing, though, to have a friendly neighbor soloing nearby with a mutual assistance pact. Then there's people widely seperated by level; if you can find a place where both have soloing opportunities, the higher level character can refresh short term buffs like a DS on the friend at relatively little cost to himself, and go on about his business; he'll not see much benefit, but the lower level guy will see lots of benefit, and yet won't have suffer being on the low end of any exp split (or getting no exp at all due to the friend being too high a level). This is more common in places where the high level is farming greens for trade skill stuff than where there are legitimate exp targets for both... but it does happen. Splendid One, 63 quibbling gnomage, Firiona Vie >Still, consider a bard; very often he's better off not taking any sort >of partner, since the odds of the partner helping more than marginally >are low, and the odds of the partner screwing things up are high. >Wouldn't be a bad thing, though, to have a friendly neighbor soloing >nearby with a mutual assistance pact. The *most* trouble I've ever seen was bards trying to kite the Ry'Gorrs at the fort. I don't know how they were doing it, but they managed to train us many times. And every time they'd claim it wasn't them. Very aggravating.... Healea Sternstar - 62 cleric Skila Windrunner - 58 ranger Jennaii - 46 druid Tholuxe Paells http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=875403 >>Still, consider a bard; very often he's better off not taking any sort >>of partner, since the odds of the partner helping more than marginally [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > fort. I don't know how they were doing it, but they managed to train us many > times. And every time they'd claim it wasn't them. Very aggravating.... RyGorr at the fort have some severe troubles with the wall; they tend to get stuck on it (instead of pathing around thru the gate) if you aren't being very very careful about it. Then they tend to warp out to near the tree. This can very easily end up aggroing people standing around out there, and for no reason a casual player not highly familiar with the spot would guess at. A bard, who specializes in pulling large groups of mobs while aggroing each as little as possible (he wants them to all stick to his pet), is the guy most likely to have this happen to him. Personally, I'd ask him to come out straight down the middle, and you stick way over in the corner near the Coldain huts, hopefully not near his prey's flight paths. A wide berth and a little mutual respect and it shouldn't be much trouble. Llyric, 57 bard, Morell Thule >RyGorr at the fort have some severe troubles with the wall; they tend to >get stuck on it (instead of pathing around thru the gate) if you aren't >being very very careful about it. Then they tend to warp out to near >the tree. This is *exactly* what would happen!!! We would be happily killing the centaurions - which were plenty difficult - and all the sudden the Elites would be charging us!!! A while back they changed the pathing again so I'm not sure it would still be an issue.... Healea Sternstar - 62 cleric Skila Windrunner - 58 ranger Jennaii - 46 druid Tholuxe Paells http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=875403 > > Can one solo in Gates of Discord? > > > It is certain that two can't solo in GoD (or anywhere else) Yeah, and three can't duo... "Robin Russell" <robrus@pacificpress.com> wrote in news:10dg9fvsgucgf25 @corp.supernews.com: >> Can one solo in Gates of Discord? >> > It is certain that two can't solo in GoD (or anywhere else) Not at all true. Two, or more can solo in GoD, or most anywhere else where soloing is possible. SignatureOn Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr> Elder Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Prophet of 65 seasons Tainniel Fleabane, Halfling Warrior of 32 seasons Giluven, Wood Elf Druid of 26 seasons Graeniel, High Elf Enchanter of 25 seasons > "Robin Russell" <robrus@pacificpress.com> wrote in news:10dg9fvsgucgf25 > @corp.supernews.com: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Two, or more can solo in GoD, or most anywhere else where soloing is > possible. Actually it seems quite true. If theres two, then they're not soloing are they? ; ) SignatureDearic - Level 65 Overlord on E'ci Talynne - Level 65 Deceiver on E'ci >> "Robin Russell" <robrus@pacificpress.com> wrote in >> news:10dg9fvsgucgf25 @corp.supernews.com: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Actually it seems quite true. If theres two, then they're not > soloing are they? ; ) You've never soloed in the same zone as another soloer? SignatureOn Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr> Elder Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Prophet of 65 seasons Tainniel Fleabane, Halfling Warrior of 32 seasons Giluven, Wood Elf Druid of 26 seasons Graeniel, High Elf Enchanter of 25 seasons > >> >> Can one solo in Gates of Discord? > >> >> > >> > It is certain that two can't solo in GoD (or anywhere else) > You've never soloed in the same zone as another soloer? As a matter of fact, no. See my .sig if you want to understand why. ; ) The clear implication here is that the "two" were grouped. SignatureDearic - Level 65 Overlord on E'ci Talynne - Level 65 Deceiver on E'ci "Davian" <davian@nospammindspring.com> wrote in news:zgZBc.9889$bs4.6461 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: >> >> >> Can one solo in Gates of Discord? >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > As a matter of fact, no. See my .sig if you want to understand why. ; ) I have soloed my warrior at all levels up to his whopping level of 32 so far. With the new sitting regen and bandaging it has become even more viable than before at my level. > The clear implication here is that the "two" were grouped. Certainly, I knew that was his intent, nevertheless, it was not stated, and thus, and is a direct example that contradicts what was actually said. SignatureOn Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr> Elder Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Prophet of 65 seasons Tainniel Fleabane, Halfling Warrior of 32 seasons Giluven, Wood Elf Druid of 29 seasons Graeniel, High Elf Enchanter of 25 seasons > "Davian" <davian@nospammindspring.com> wrote in news:zgZBc.9889$bs4.6461 > @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: > >> You've never soloed in the same zone as another soloer? > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I have soloed my warrior at all levels up to his whopping level of 32 so > far. I didn't say it wasn't possible, I said I didn't do it. My warrior duoed with a friend, with occasional groups, until the low 50's. After that it was large groups, since my partner had quit, and my warrior was unable to effectively solo anything blue. Similarly, my rogue was played in twink groups to the mid 40's, at which point she was unable to effectively solo. (Effectively being defined as "Does not die one out of every three attempts") (1) > With the new sitting regen and bandaging it has become even more > viable than before at my level. Which is pretty irrelevant, since it wasn't in when I was passing those levels. > > The clear implication here is that the "two" were grouped. > > Certainly, I knew that was his intent, nevertheless, it was not stated, > and thus, and is a direct example that contradicts what was actually > said. Anyone ever tell you that you have quite a talent for sucking the fun out of everything? : ) (1) I'd also have to question how well your warrior solos. It seems from watching your .sig as if he's gained about three levels in the last two years. I'd guess its either not as fun or not as effective as you're making it out to be. SignatureDearic - Level 65 Overlord on E'ci Talynne - Level 65 Deceiver on E'ci >> "Davian" <davian@nospammindspring.com> wrote in >> news:zgZBc.9889$bs4.6461 @newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > 50's. After that it was large groups, since my partner had quit, and > my warrior was unable to effectively solo anything blue. Having not reached that level, I can't comment on that yet, probably never will due to the amount of playtime I put into my warrior. > (1) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Which is pretty irrelevant, since it wasn't in when I was passing > those levels. Same for me really, I've played my warrior maybe two times since the changes, but did notice how dramatic the difference was. >> > The clear implication here is that the "two" were grouped. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Anyone ever tell you that you have quite a talent for sucking the fun > out of everything? : ) Yes, actually. :b > (1) I'd also have to question how well your warrior solos. It seems > from watching your .sig as if he's gained about three levels in the > last two years. I'd guess its either not as fun or not as effective > as you're making it out to be. Has a whole lot to do with how often I play any twinks at all. I keep forgetting to correct the sig, but, the only twink I have played much recently is my druid, got him to 29 to imbue emeralds for me. My warrior has been soloing in CC near the town, and solos the blue mobs there quite easilly. Prior to that, he soloed in Frontier Mountains, and Runnyeye. I played him quite a bit leveling up to the mid 20s, since then, if I play him more than once a month or so, that is a lot. SignatureOn Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr> Elder Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Prophet of 65 seasons Tainniel Fleabane, Halfling Warrior of 32 seasons Giluven, Wood Elf Druid of 29 seasons Graeniel, High Elf Enchanter of 25 seasons > (Effectively being defined as "Does not die one out of every three > attempts") Nonsense, if That is the definition, then anyone can effectively solo. If you can kill two out of three, then you only need a bit more work to figure out how to get that last one. IF you defined it as something on the order of "makes more exp per hour soloing than he would in 2/3rds of random pickup groups" you'd have a point. IN the case of the rogue, if you defined it as "gets more exp per hour than a druid ten levels lower than him does hunting the same mob" you'd have a point. But your definition isn't class based, its merely a question of the players' ability to play consistently. I can easily find you druids who die one out of every three quads, bards who die one out of every three swarms of ten... its not the class that's at fault there, nor the gear, its the guy pulling the strings from behind the curtain! Splendid (who has never soloed a rogue and only soloed a warrior to level 30, so is clearly talking out of his hat, er, I mean in a theoretical philosophical sense) > > (Effectively being defined as "Does not die one out of every three > > attempts") *snip all variations of "Your class can solo, you just suck" as not worth responding to.* > I can easily find you druids who die one out of every three quads, bards > who die one out of every three swarms of ten... its not the class that's > at fault there, nor the gear, its the guy pulling the strings from > behind the curtain! So, they die one per 12 mobs and once per 30 mobs, respectively. Yet you somehow think this works out to dying 1 in 3 times? > Splendid (who has never soloed a rogue and only soloed a warrior to > level 30, so is clearly talking out of his hat, er, I mean in a > theoretical philosophical sense) It shows. SignatureDearic - Level 65 Overlord on E'ci Talynne - Level 65 Deceiver on E'ci >>>(Effectively being defined as "Does not die one out of every three >>>attempts") > > *snip all variations of "Your class can solo, you just suck" as not worth > responding to.* I didn't say that. I said that IF that definition of "effective" is used, then a class that can solo 2 out of three mobs just needs a little more player skill. I disagree that that is a useful definition of "effectively" here though. My warrior soloed a good deal... and it was an arduous process, filled with a great deal of standing around healing, a great deal of picking only single pullables, a great deal of running to zone. It was clear to me why eventually this would end up yeilding so little exp per hour that it would become a laughable endeavor. Not because he'd necessarily die a lot, but because the time per kill would be long, and the time between kills would be longer, and the list of killable targets would become pretty small. Course with bind wounds cap raised to 70%, his killables list would go up, but his time between kills would just get longer. >>I can easily find you druids who die one out of every three quads, bards >>who die one out of every three swarms of ten... its not the class that's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > So, they die one per 12 mobs and once per 30 mobs, respectively. Yet you > somehow think this works out to dying 1 in 3 times? No, again, you aren't listening to what I'm saying, you're making up some other angle. I'm saying that a Good druid can go thru dozens of quads between deaths. That a good bard can go thru dozens of swarms without deaths. That there are members of those classes that can't do so doesn't mean the class is at fault. I picked those two classes because they are among the best soloing classes, the fact that they happen to solo dozens at a time is beside the point. If the ratio disturbs you, how about shaman, a class that mostly kills singles. Most shaman can very reliably kill low reds thru most of their carreer. Yet I'm sure I can find you some who can't solo blue mobs without dying one time in three; soloing as a shaman takes a bit of a different attitude than grouping as one, and things can indeed go sour quite rapidly if you're doing things wrong. >>Splendid (who has never soloed a rogue and only soloed a warrior to >>level 30, so is clearly talking out of his hat, er, I mean in a >>theoretical philosophical sense) > > It shows. Hey now, if it helps, my cleric soloed half of most levels from 20 to 65, my bard soloed about half of each level to 57, my shaman soloed more like 3/4ths his time from 1 to 52, and my warrior did solo about half the time from 1 to 30 (although I can't say he soloed half the exp of those levels) My only character that hasn't soloed much is my current one, a mage who flew thru most of his levels in a regular LDoN group or hanging out killing stuff with AGE friends. I enjoy soloing, and generally have made a point of trying it with different classes. Success, it seems to me from personal experience and from observation, is achievable with almost every class (rogue may be an exception). Effective success, though, thats a lot harder to attain. My cleric only soloed so much because I'm pigheaded about it, with almost any partner he could make more exp per hour, and that was before the radical raise in group bonus. My bard, on the other hand, only grouped so much because he was hanging with friends and having fun, or because I was trying to learn bard grouping skills. When exp alone was what I was after, solo was easily 10 times as effective... course that again was before the massive group bonus thing. Perhaps now its only twice as effective! Note that the above descriptions utilizing "effective" are by my definition, something along the lines of "decent exp per hour compared to a normal group", rather than yours "not dying one time in three"; if the latter was true, every class I've played has been effective at soloing, once I worked the bugs out with a new location/level/mob type. Hmm, except maybe my mage. He doesn't solo all that well by your definition OR mine. Some folks swear by them as soloers, though, which suggests to me that I'm just not good at soloing him. Again, this fits my complaint about your definition; its not that mages suck as a solo class, but that I suck as a solo mage player! Splendid One, 63 Gnomage, Firiona Vie >>>>(Effectively being defined as "Does not die one out of every three >>>>attempts") [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Course with bind wounds cap raised to 70%, his killables list would go > up, but his time between kills would just get longer. Nope, actually, time between kills is shorter, as when they raised the bind wound cap, they also allowed you to bind while sitting, and get increased regen rate the longer you sit. This I can speak to from personal experience before and after the changes. SignatureOn Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr> Elder Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Prophet of 65 seasons Tainniel Fleabane, Halfling Warrior of 32 seasons Giluven, Wood Elf Druid of 26 seasons Graeniel, High Elf Enchanter of 25 seasons >>Course with bind wounds cap raised to 70%, his killables list would go >>up, but his time between kills would just get longer. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > increased regen rate the longer you sit. This I can speak to from > personal experience before and after the changes. Ah, I see. Well, at any rate if they'd ONLY raised the cap, and not added in ways to make it more efficient at the same time, it would have made time between kills longer. With those changes, it would almost be worthwhile to solo a warrior, if it weren't for the fact that long before they did that they raised the grouping exp bonus to the point where I doubt this closes the gap back up. Splendid >>>Course with bind wounds cap raised to 70%, his killables list would >>>go up, but his time between kills would just get longer. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the grouping exp bonus to the point where I doubt this closes the gap > back up. I'd rather have a good group than solo, but, soloing the warrior is not bad at all now. With a good group, I'm sure I could get more xp in the same time period, but, with a bad group, I could probably do better soloing. Being as I don't know too many people to group with at my warriors level, I'd be stuck with pickup groups for the most part, so, when the few friends I have in that level range are not around, I solo. SignatureOn Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr> Elder Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Prophet of 65 seasons Tainniel Fleabane, Halfling Warrior of 32 seasons Giluven, Wood Elf Druid of 29 seasons Graeniel, High Elf Enchanter of 25 seasons >With those changes, it would almost be worthwhile to solo a warrior, if >it weren't for the fact that long before they did that they raised the >grouping exp bonus to the point where I doubt this closes the gap back up. At least up through 50th lvl, soloing a warrior appears to be extremely efficient. I pulled a 46 warrior out of retirement after the regen changes and the speed at which he solo'd was impressive compared to grouping exp. Soloing got me a lvl in about 4 hours in the high 40s, fighting red con mobs in Druga with some higher lvl friends didn't give me half that. Except for a fungi and soulscream belt, my warrior has pretty shitty equipment. With the way regen works now, if I'd had Temp/Virtue, it would be almost as effiicient as using a fungi. I'd loose 150hp a minute regen but I'd take less damage (temp would bump my ac over 1000) and, with an extra 1k hitpoints, you can go longer between 'med breaks' and make better use of the sitting regen since the longer you sit, the faster you regen. The main problem with soloing is that you have a very narrow range and selection of mobs that you can solo efficiently. You need mobs that are barely dark blue cons, so low level that they're borderline light blue and you also need a zone where you can pull single, melee mobs. It's still boring as hell but I can't fault the efficiency. Warrior is 51 now, not sure if I can solo him once he hits 52. I know it's theoretically possible but I can't think of a good zone with single pullable mobs the right level (39-43). ...anyone have any suggestions? One thing I found surprising is the people saying that warriors die a lot soloing. Give him a sow potion and he's pretty much indestructable ime. Rgds, Frank >>With those changes, it would almost be worthwhile to solo a warrior, if >>it weren't for the fact that long before they did that they raised the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > blue and you also need a zone where you can pull single, melee mobs. > It's still boring as hell but I can't fault the efficiency. As I recall, the problem was even worse before, because you needed mobs you could kill on 50% of your HP; bandage back up and repeat, actually regenning hp was so slow as to be a joke. Now it appears you have a 70% margin and that regen is so much better that you might well go to 80% regularly, or even more? > Warrior is 51 now, not sure if I can solo him once he hits 52. I know > it's theoretically possible but I can't think of a good zone with > single pullable mobs the right level (39-43). ...anyone have any > suggestions? Cobalt Scar occurs to me, the wyverns are mainly melee although they occaisionally proc something or other; they were a favorite of my soloing cleric back in the day, and while soling druids and wizards are busy arguing over mobs its because they need four at a time, its very rare even on a busy day that there isn't -one- in reach whenever you want one. OH, and there are a couple that you won't be able to single pull, but most are sitting all out on their own with no help nearby. If you aren't KOS to the othmir, I'd pull to the beach where there's much less risk of adds from sloppy quadders or from the wandering drakes; I'd think a drake encounter would ruin your day since you're relying on buffs to add efficiency. My cleric loved killing the drakes, they run so slow he could fear kite them even though he didnt have snare! Its even easy to get to CS now, run into Mischief and go click on the secret tree exit, which dumps you in the middle of CS, then just swim out to the beach. Getting out will be more of a challenge, its a long long run back to GD, a gate potion or OT hammer would probably be in order. > One thing I found surprising is the people saying that warriors die a > lot soloing. Give him a sow potion and he's pretty much indestructable > ime. I had some trouble due to that "kill on 50%" thing. I'd push the limits of what I could kill, and sometimes the mob would get lucky when we were both down to 5%, and manage to kill me before I'd kill him. At that point, even SOWed I might have been too slow to get out of arms reach before death. Depending on how high a margin of safety you insist on, you restrict your killable range even further, if I'm to run at 10% if things look risky, then that only left mobs that would do no more than 40% of my hp per kill! The bigger range of healability now available would make that a lot less troubling (only 60% [70%-10% margin]? Why thats better than the range I had before when I'd go all the way down to death before running if things were close [50%]) Defeat, 30 froglok warrior, deleted long before changes > Rgds, Frank >As I recall, the problem was even worse before, because you needed mobs >you could kill on 50% of your HP; bandage back up and repeat, actually >regenning hp was so slow as to be a joke. True. 55% HP is about my minimum for pulling with the warrior. > Now it appears you have a 70% >margin and that regen is so much better that you might well go to 80% >regularly, or even more? With the way regen works now where the longer you sit, the more you heal, you're actually better off just sitting until you get to full then killing a couple of mobs and repeating the process. That's why Temp/Virtue is such a huge booster for soloing. ... also, don't forget that regen discipline you get at around 20th lvl, it ain't much (especially at my lvl) but every little bit helps. Even at 51, it isn't that unusual to only loose about 10% of my hitpoints against a blue. Not something you can count on though, those are the ones that are just barely dark blue, probably within one or two lvls of going light blue on me. >> Warrior is 51 now, not sure if I can solo him once he hits 52. I know >> it's theoretically possible but I can't think of a good zone with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >want one. OH, and there are a couple that you won't be able to single >pull, but most are sitting all out on their own with no help nearby. I used to hunt otters there occasionally with my shaman. Given some of the shouting matches I overheard and what I saw people doing, I swore that I'd never hunt those lizards. Kinda like the Ice Giant spawns in Everfrost, some spots just seem to bring out the worst in people (or the worst people, not really sure which). <g> I'm thinking maybe BW or Seafuries in OOT for 52-54. I prefer to stay with the old world or Kunark if I can, mobs there on average, are easier than in the newer expansions. >> One thing I found surprising is the people saying that warriors die a >> lot soloing. Give him a sow potion and he's pretty much indestructable [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >thats better than the range I had before when I'd go all the way down to >death before running if things were close [50%]) That would explain it, I tend to be pretty conservative in that regard and bug out at about 15% if I know I have a bit of a run to the zone. But even though I usually hunt w/o buffs (unless a friend stopped by to buff me), I find it's rarely a problem. Warriors seem to have the hitpoints and mitigation where you aren't at the mercy of the random number generator nearly as much as say my monk back when I used to solo him occasionally. With my monk at 20% hitpoints, I could count on getting hit for max pretty consistently, with the warrior berzerking that doesn't seem to be the case. Rgds, Frank On 22 Jun 2004 17:17:31 GMT in <Xns951072DECF007richardrapiernetscap@130.133.1.4>, Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> graced the world with this thought: >Certainly, I knew that was his intent, nevertheless, it was not stated, >and thus, and is a direct example that contradicts what was actually >said. nice dodge. 6.2 Quoth Davian: > "Graeme Faelban" <RichardRapier@netscape.net> wrote in message >> You've never soloed in the same zone as another soloer? > > As a matter of fact, no. See my .sig if you want to understand why. ; ) > > The clear implication here is that the "two" were grouped. I think that the clear implication is that Robin made a joke, and Graeme picked it up, snapped its neck, and tossed it back at him. SignatureVenerable Hanrahan, Storm Warden (Human), Fennin Ro Molgarin, 40-odd Monk (Human), Fennin Ro A Shoggoth is for life, not just for Christmas. David Navarro <david@alcaudon.com> wrote in news:20040622200252181+0100 @usenet.force9.net: > Quoth Davian: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I think that the clear implication is that Robin made a joke, and Graeme > picked it up, snapped its neck, and tossed it back at him. That was the original intent. Well, that and sucking the fun out of it. :b SignatureOn Erollisi Marr in <Sanctuary of Marr> Elder Graeme Faelban, Barbarian Prophet of 65 seasons Tainniel Fleabane, Halfling Warrior of 32 seasons Giluven, Wood Elf Druid of 26 seasons Graeniel, High Elf Enchanter of 25 seasons |
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