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Mages newbie armor problems

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Dirk Lenart - 29 Oct 2003 18:14 GMT
Hi

I have a terrible time finding the Giant Wasp Warrior/Drone/Worker
pollen needed for the Art Keepers armor.
I've killed a bunch, but no pollen dropped. Since it's no drop, I
can't buy it from someone.
Are the giant wasps only to be found in Greate Faydark? Or are there
other spawn places?

Belgicana (14th Season female magician on Antonius Bayle)
Graeme Faelban - 29 Oct 2003 18:41 GMT
> Hi
>
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> Belgicana (14th Season female magician on Antonius Bayle)

The newbie armor quests are a pain in the butt, for many of them the
prime ingredient is a fairly rare drop, and some of the other ingredients
are even rarer drops.  You just have to kill boatloads of them to get the
drops you need.  I ran into the same problem with the newbie Gnome wizard
armor quests.

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Greg Dalgroz - 29 Oct 2003 20:35 GMT
> > Hi
> >
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> drops you need.  I ran into the same problem with the newbie Gnome wizard
> armor quests.

The Gnome quests are now a piece of cake as the drop rates have been
increased tremendously. We must have done the quests back when the
kobold items were rare indeed, as I remember my Wizard's quest being
very frustrating. Now they are common drops and kobolds no longer agro.

The GFay quests are as difficult as any can get. In 3 weeks playing our
"fun" newbie chars on Stromm, myself and 3 friends have seen ONE Giant
Sylvan Bat Fur drop. Add the fact that most items are nodrop. In
Feerrott, Yellow lizard scales are infuriating to get. Our guild killed
the zone for 3 hours for a beastlord and 3 dropped. Beastlords need 8 I
believe. Barbarian quests involve visiting the vendors, buying the items
and off you go.

Balance? The word doesn't seem to exist in EQ developers' vocabulary!
Too easy is no fun, to difficult and mobs are green long before armor is
complete. I applaud newbie armor quests, but please Sony, have a look at
them as a whole. Why such a divergence in difficulty?
Lief - 30 Oct 2003 03:24 GMT
> The GFay quests are as difficult as any can get. In 3 weeks playing our
> "fun" newbie chars on Stromm, myself and 3 friends have seen ONE Giant
> Sylvan Bat Fur drop.

/agree

There was a desolute warrioir in crushbone (was there with my ranger just
making sure my faction was bottomed / topped :P), as they couldnt get
arborean sapling sap, I said I would help.

I have max tracking, in 3 hours, we killed maybe 8 saplings and he / she
(female avatar) got ONE sapling...

The quest I did for jeweled quiver of the hand was a better item and far
less infuriating than this.

Im not sure how I ever managed to finish my rangers newbie armour (TWICE, I
restarted when I changed from a PCG account).
Greg Dalgroz - 30 Oct 2003 16:43 GMT
> > The GFay quests are as difficult as any can get. In 3 weeks playing our
> > "fun" newbie chars on Stromm, myself and 3 friends have seen ONE Giant
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> I have max tracking, in 3 hours, we killed maybe 8 saplings and he / she
> (female avatar) got ONE sapling...

Eight kills? It they're desolute now, call the suicide watch
immediately! My log as of an hour ago, shows 52 Giant Sylvan Bat kills.
One fur. My three other friends have yet to see one, and their kill
numbers must be somewhere close to mine <sigh>

> The quest I did for jeweled quiver of the hand was a better item and far
> less infuriating than this.
>
> Im not sure how I ever managed to finish my rangers newbie armour (TWICE, I
> restarted when I changed from a PCG account).
Ekona of Firiona Vie - 30 Oct 2003 23:48 GMT
> Balance? The word doesn't seem to exist in EQ developers' vocabulary!
> Too easy is no fun, to difficult and mobs are green long before armor
> is complete. I applaud newbie armor quests, but please Sony, have a
> look at them as a whole. Why such a divergence in difficulty?

The Iksar and the Vah Shir don't even have class-designed newbie armor
quests.  :/  The Vah Shir have the Shadeweaver's Thicket quests, though I
hear the BP is very difficult to get the drops for.  The Iksar have
curscale, which doesn't even have a graphic, and the necros can't wear it.  
Oh, monks have sparring armor, but each piece requires getting broken slave
shackles, and of all the time I've spent in the Swamp of No Hope, I've only
ever seen ONE escaped froglok slave.  And never a "Froglok Escort" (just
the minor "a froglok escort" ones).

My scaley monk spent her lowest levels in the Qeynos newbie zone and used
the plat to buy several pieces of Wu's Fighting Armor.  Much better, but
less satisfying somehow.

Time to start my shackle quest series, I think.
Lance Berg - 29 Oct 2003 19:46 GMT
> Hi
>
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>
> Belgicana (14th Season female magician on Antonius Bayle)

While your gender is irrelevant to this question, your race -is-
relevant.  Funny how Real World pay scale uses exactly the
opposite approach, isn't it?

OK, not highly relevant, since you are hunting in GFay, there are
no Woodie mages, so you are almost certainly a Milkie.

I had a lot of trouble like you are having getting Gnomage armor
on the Firiona Vie server.  While I don't have any specific
answers to your problem, I can say that there were a lot more of
the drops I needed on higher level versions of the same mobs in
Steamfont; killing the little cats over in the tiny newbie area
didn't work nearly as well as their bigger level 10ish brothers
over near the windmill, so on and so forth.  I think that the
quests are designed to be completed either in groups where the
different people want different items off the same mobs, or so
that you have to keep hunting when the mobs are green; I just
don't see how its possible to get all the drops you'd need
without one or the other, exp is too easy to come by.  On Firiona
Vie, many of the items don't drop once the mobs are green, so its
a real scramble to get the whole kit complete if you want to do
that as a challenge.

Splendid One

Still wearing his full set of Collective armor at level 40!
CharmedFan - 30 Oct 2003 10:09 GMT
>Hi
>
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>Are the giant wasps only to be found in Greate Faydark? Or are there
>other spawn places?

Art keepers makes you highelf right? yes the wasps will be there but
you ned to kill the right kind of wasps for the right kinds of drops
the drones and workers are generally common wasps the drones the most
so, the drops you need are fairly common except the warrior stuff I
found.

When they first introduced these quests on test, I was a ranger, and I
wasted my birthday about 18 hours of it, trying for an ulna bone, in
the end a GM felt sorry for me as Id been trying for a week..
 
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