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bob - 11 Apr 2004 08:29 GMT
i would really like to start i bard character, but i already used up my one
FV character and don't want to lose the role-playing aspect of the game.  is
there another server where role-playing flourishes?
Ben Sisson - 11 Apr 2004 10:43 GMT
A thousand monkeys banging on keyboards posted the following under the
name "bob" <dlv88@comcast.net>:

>i would really like to start i bard character, but i already used up my one
>FV character and don't want to lose the role-playing aspect of the game.  is
>there another server where role-playing flourishes?

Flourishes? No.

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Scott - 11 Apr 2004 19:46 GMT
> i would really like to start i bard character, but i already used up my one
> FV character and don't want to lose the role-playing aspect of the game.  is
> there another server where role-playing flourishes?

Nope, not really, you may as well reroll or just get another account.
Dark Tyger - 11 Apr 2004 20:57 GMT
>> i would really like to start i bard character, but i already used up my
>one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Nope, not really, you may as well reroll or just get another account.

Shut the f.ck up if you don't know what you're talking about, Scott.
You obviously don't.

RP guilds can be found on other servers, Bob. Better RP than I've ever
found on FV, IMO. On Tunare, you'll find a pair of guilds dedicated to
RP called Wind Riders and Shadow Striders. They've been around almost
as long as EQ has. They're set up in opposition to each other, and are
a generally fun crowd. Their website is http://wind.jerhyn.com . Also,
they have an OOC chat channel. /join wrooc if you ever pop in on the
Tunare server (or you can check it from another server with /join
tunare.wrooc). Feel free to pop in and say hi.

Just note, they don't have uber guild raid events or anything like
that. It's a family RP guild. They put more focus on RP than raiding.

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Scott - 11 Apr 2004 21:27 GMT
> >> i would really like to start i bard character, but i already used up my
> >one
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Shut the f.ck up if you don't know what you're talking about, Scott.
> You obviously don't.

The word flourish was used and I did say no they dont flourish not no they
dont exist.  Also of the replies to this post I believe you were the only
one to say RP flourishes on other servers.

> RP guilds can be found on other servers, Bob. Better RP than I've ever
> found on FV, IMO. On Tunare, you'll find a pair of guilds dedicated to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Just note, they don't have uber guild raid events or anything like
> that. It's a family RP guild. They put more focus on RP than raiding.
Dark Tyger - 11 Apr 2004 22:38 GMT
>The word flourish was used and I did say no they dont flourish not no they
>dont exist.  Also of the replies to this post I believe you were the only
>one to say RP flourishes on other servers.

It thrives damn well on Tunare in the guilds I named, thank you.

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Palindrome - 12 Apr 2004 11:55 GMT
>>The word flourish was used and I did say no they dont flourish not no they
>>dont exist.  Also of the replies to this post I believe you were the only
>>one to say RP flourishes on other servers.
>
>It thrives damn well on Tunare in the guilds I named, thank you.

Two guilds on Tunare do not a "flourish" make  :)

Palindrome
bizbee - 12 Apr 2004 15:46 GMT
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 11:55:42 +0100 in
<kctk7093k8bfv4hgesq00e50aci8e2f74f@4ax.com>, Palindrome
<damon-nomad@tiscali.co.uk> graced the world with this thought:

>>>The word flourish was used and I did say no they dont flourish not no they
>>>dont exist.  Also of the replies to this post I believe you were the only
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Palindrome
yeah, but in that sense, does it "flourish" on FV?

Not when everyone walks into the world speaking the same language....
bizbee - 12 Apr 2004 15:07 GMT
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:38:47 -0700 in
<nmej701e2dfjuprkql8llns95arvf4om7c@4ax.com>, Dark Tyger
<darktiger@somewhere.net> graced the world with this thought:

>>The word flourish was used and I did say no they dont flourish not no they
>>dont exist.  Also of the replies to this post I believe you were the only
>>one to say RP flourishes on other servers.
>
>It thrives damn well on Tunare in the guilds I named, thank you.

don't forget, you're basically arguing with an idiot here, expert on
the game after playing.... well...
He should have quit when he made the announcement here that the game
sucked and he was going to.
Scott - 11 Apr 2004 21:35 GMT
> >> i would really like to start i bard character, but i already used up my
> >one
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Shut the f.ck up if you don't know what you're talking about, Scott.
> You obviously don't.

Just because you don't like what I have to say doesn't mean you need to tell
me to "Shut the f.ck up"  I mean really, kind of rude isn't it.  Did you
also tell Ben Sisson to "Shut the f.ck up if you don't know what you're
talking about" when he told Bob that RP doesn't Flourish on any other
servers?

> RP guilds can be found on other servers, Bob. Better RP than I've ever
> found on FV, IMO. On Tunare, you'll find a pair of guilds dedicated to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Just note, they don't have uber guild raid events or anything like
> that. It's a family RP guild. They put more focus on RP than raiding.
Dark Tyger - 11 Apr 2004 22:39 GMT
>Just because you don't like what I have to say doesn't mean you need to tell
>me to "Shut the f.ck up"  I mean really, kind of rude isn't it.

No, it doesn't. Just because you're spouting ignorant and blatantly
false information does. And you have no room to talk about rudeness
after saying how buying a movie ticket makes it okay to yack on a
f.cking cell phone during the movie.

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Palindrome - 12 Apr 2004 11:58 GMT
>>Just because you don't like what I have to say doesn't mean you need to tell
>>me to "Shut the f.ck up"  I mean really, kind of rude isn't it.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>after saying how buying a movie ticket makes it okay to yack on a
>f.cking cell phone during the movie.

Now THAT really is the height of sheer arrogant, selfish and downright
bloody offensive behaviour! (Assuming he said that - I didn't see that
post).

Palindrome
Dark Tyger - 12 Apr 2004 16:35 GMT
>>>Just because you don't like what I have to say doesn't mean you need to tell
>>>me to "Shut the f.ck up"  I mean really, kind of rude isn't it.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>bloody offensive behaviour! (Assuming he said that - I didn't see that
>post).

See the IGE thread. Wasn't his direct words, but his response to
someone asking about talking on a cel phone during a movie implied
that, and he hasn't denied the intent of the implication either.

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Scott - 12 Apr 2004 18:03 GMT
> >>Just because you don't like what I have to say doesn't mean you need to tell
> >>me to "Shut the f.ck up"  I mean really, kind of rude isn't it.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Palindrome

I had said people have the right, didnt say it wasn't rude nor that the
person doing it wouldnt get kicked out of the theater, persoanlly I set my
phone to silent alert and exit the theater if I have an emergency call.
Dark Tyger - 12 Apr 2004 18:30 GMT
>> Now THAT really is the height of sheer arrogant, selfish and downright
>> bloody offensive behaviour! (Assuming he said that - I didn't see that
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>person doing it wouldnt get kicked out of the theater, persoanlly I set my
>phone to silent alert and exit the theater if I have an emergency call.

Saying that they have the right is saying they SHOULDN'T get kicked
out. And, frankly, they're on private property. If the
owner/management says they don't have the right while on the property,
they don't have the right. Period.

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Scott - 12 Apr 2004 18:23 GMT
> >> Now THAT really is the height of sheer arrogant, selfish and downright
> >> bloody offensive behaviour! (Assuming he said that - I didn't see that
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> owner/management says they don't have the right while on the property,
> they don't have the right. Period.

I don't quite follow that, I have the right to bear arms according to the
constitution but I can't walk into a bank with a couple of pistols on my
waist, Also have the right to free speech but in said movie theater I can't
falsely claim there is a fire when there is none.  Having the right doesnt
mean it can be done.
Dark Tyger - 12 Apr 2004 18:47 GMT
>> Saying that they have the right is saying they SHOULDN'T get kicked
>> out. And, frankly, they're on private property. If the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>falsely claim there is a fire when there is none.  Having the right doesnt
>mean it can be done.

The Constitution only protects your rights from government agencies. A
private individual has the right to limit those rights on his own
property. Your free speech, for example, doesn't apply in my house.

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John Lynch, Jr. - 22 Apr 2004 02:56 GMT
> > >> Now THAT really is the height of sheer arrogant, selfish and downright
> > >> bloody offensive behaviour! (Assuming he said that - I didn't see that
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> falsely claim there is a fire when there is none.  Having the right doesnt
> mean it can be done.

I beg your pardon, but I've walked into a bank numerrous times with a pistol
on my waist (as a private citizen).
Scott - 22 Apr 2004 07:07 GMT
> I beg your pardon, but I've walked into a bank numerrous times with a pistol
> on my waist (as a private citizen).

Lucky you, I tried that and got arrested for inciting a panic, even though I
never once touched the pistol aside from putting it into the holster before
leaving the house.  Now I've got a permit to carry concealed, love this new
law here in Ohio.
George C. Sievers - 22 Apr 2004 13:08 GMT
You both have serious emotional problems.
What is it exactly you are wearing this pistol for?
Protection from aliens? Charleton Heston?
How many times have you had to use your gun and how many people have you
shot with it? (on purpose, that is).
Which militia is it that you belong to again?

I have enough trouble tolerating cops with guns much less "ordinary"
citizens.

> > I beg your pardon, but I've walked into a bank numerrous times with a
> pistol
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> leaving the house.  Now I've got a permit to carry concealed, love this new
> law here in Ohio.
Mirwen Melo're - 22 Apr 2004 17:37 GMT
What I don't get is why this thread degraded from an EQ Players simple
question about role-playing on other servers to this drivel.  Far too
many kids (or "adults" with the maturity of children) have more time on
their hands than they need.  Go mow lawns!  Go outside and play cops
and robbers with your little guns.  Leave the threads alone till you
know what is appropriate to post in a thread/newsgroup that clearly has
a title and a topic. It's called respect for others. ...something their
parent's didn't teach them.

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Jekke, Just Jekke - 22 Apr 2004 18:24 GMT
>What I don't get is why this thread degraded from an EQ Players simple
>question about role-playing on other servers to this drivel.  Far too
>many kids (or "adults" with the maturity of children) have more time on
>their hands than they need.  Go mow lawns!  Go outside and play cops
>and robbers with your little guns.

You want to know how threads degrade? Belittling others over hot
button issues is a good way to guarantee it.

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Annie Benson-Lennaman - 30 Apr 2004 23:44 GMT
> What I don't get is why this thread degraded from an EQ Players simple
> question about role-playing on other servers to this drivel.  

  Welcome to usenet.  And I'm guessing to forums as well.  Topics drift.
Always.  Bitching about it won't help, I promise.

  This is addressed in the "How to get along in the AGE newsgroup" section
of the faq posted in my sig.  Might be useful for you to take a look at it.

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Scott - 22 Apr 2004 19:22 GMT
> You both have serious emotional problems.
> What is it exactly you are wearing this pistol for?

Protection

> Protection from aliens? Charleton Heston?

Protection from others who attack me.  Happened before it will prob happen
again.

> How many times have you had to use your gun and how many people have you
> shot with it? (on purpose, that is).

Zero times, usually the sight of it deters any attackers.  Actually the
first 3 rounds are rubber bullets.

> Which militia is it that you belong to again?

No militia.

> I have enough trouble tolerating cops with guns much less "ordinary"
> citizens.

IMHO, cops would be useless in deterring crime and protecting the public if
they were forced to do so w/o guns, hell you may as well add the military to
that list.  FYI, many police forces are now adding tasers to a police
officers arsenal.

> > > I beg your pardon, but I've walked into a bank numerrous times with a
> > pistol
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> new
> > law here in Ohio.
fooboy - 13 Apr 2004 14:41 GMT
<SNIP>

> I had said people have the right, didnt say it wasn't rude nor that the

IANAL, but you dont have the right to have or use a cell phone.

You may use a cell phone, but a private property owner is well within
his rights, as a matter of law, to throw you out when you do. A
private property owner may not toss you out for being a minority, or
based on your religeous creed, because that type of discrimination is
proscribed.

The government of any municipality can also terminate your usage of a
cell phone at any time. You cell phone is not a right, as defined in
the Constitution, and AFAIK the restriction of that right is not
pre-empted by Federal law, like federally licensed amatuer radio
operators. It stems from the common-law right to use property that you
own.

It is rude, and I wish that theatre owners would throw out rude
patrons on the first offense.
Kanjien - 14 Apr 2004 12:40 GMT
RP does infact exist on many different servers at many different levels.
As to if it "flourashes" or not is a matter of opinion.  I would
suggest going to EQRoleplayers.com and looking at the info there.
There is a guild listing of all known RP guilds on all of the servers
grouped by alignment.  I know we have several RP guilds on EMarr that
are doing very well besides my own.

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bob - 11 Apr 2004 21:35 GMT
> >> i would really like to start i bard character, but i already used up my
> >one
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Just note, they don't have uber guild raid events or anything like
> that. It's a family RP guild. They put more focus on RP than raiding.

sounds good to me. the reason i ask is because i like the idea of a nice,
peaceful bard, but i also like my evil necromancer, so i could not decide
whether to delete my necro and start a bard, or to just play my necro until
i got tired of it, then start a bard.  but now that i know i can rp on other
servers, i can just create a new character and keep my necro!  thanks for
the help.
Dark Tyger - 11 Apr 2004 22:41 GMT
>sounds good to me. the reason i ask is because i like the idea of a nice,
>peaceful bard, but i also like my evil necromancer, so i could not decide
>whether to delete my necro and start a bard, or to just play my necro until
>i got tired of it, then start a bard.  but now that i know i can rp on other
>servers, i can just create a new character and keep my necro!  thanks for
>the help.

The one character rule is one of the primary reasons I don't play on
FV. I like to RP a variety of characters. Not for twinking purposes,
but because I RP a different personality character for whatever mood
I'm in. Having to stick to one means there'd be days of awful RP
because I'm just not in the mood to play his/her personality right. I
can't, for instance, play my upbeat and optimistic character when I'm
in a dark and brooding mood...

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Hyenagirl - 12 Apr 2004 00:49 GMT
> The one character rule is one of the primary reasons I don't play on
> FV. I like to RP a variety of characters. Not for twinking purposes,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> can't, for instance, play my upbeat and optimistic character when I'm
> in a dark and brooding mood...

I hear you.  There's been a lot of talk lately about the pros and cons of
opening up the other character slots for FV, but (imo) it would be a disaster
*unless* they got rid of the special no-nodrop rule as well.  Some people say
they like the one character rule because reputation means more, but
considering how easy it is to reroll... eh.

The lack of nodrop on FV, combined with the whole plat farming/buying plat
issue, has brought a lot, has attracted a lot of people who are there *just*
for the loot, for the stuff that can be bought there that can't be bought on
other servers (since on any other server it'd be nodrop).

I'd be quite happy, personally, if FV became just like any other server
(normal nodrop rules, 8 slots, etc) and was differentiated soley by the
"roleplaying perferred" label.  I could recreate my Cazic Thule characters to
join my current FV main.

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Palindrome - 12 Apr 2004 11:55 GMT
>>> i would really like to start i bard character, but i already used up my
>>one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>>Nope, not really, you may as well reroll or just get another account.

He was in effect saying, I believe "Nope, it does not flourish..."
which is, essentially, correct.

Palindrome
Dark Tyger - 12 Apr 2004 16:37 GMT
>>>> i would really like to start i bard character, but i already used up my
>>>one
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>He was in effect saying, I believe "Nope, it does not flourish..."
>which is, essentially, correct.

Depends on your definition of "flourish". If you mean is it
server-wide, no. But it's not server-wide on FV either. I don't run
into many people on Tunare that aren't willing to "play along" if you
act RP-ish on Tunare...

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Mirwen Melo're - 14 Apr 2004 17:31 GMT
As Kanjien mentioned, go to 'EverQuest Role-players'
(http://tinyurl.com/3bqej).  If you can't click the link the url is
www.everquestroleplayers.com.

The following was taken from the above site.

> Official RP Server
> *Firona Vie* - 5 RP guilds
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> *Erollisi Marr* - 6 RP guilds
> *Mithaniel Marr* - 5 RP guilds

I would not say this is in stone in any way.  This was based on the
number of guilds registered with everquestroleplayers.com.  So there
may be other servers with a far greater number of individual
role-players, but fewer guilds, or they've just not registered at the
site.

Whether or not a server flourishes in RP is more about the consistent
in game role-playing by the players themselves, more than how many
RPers are on a given server.  Numbers will certainly help that and the
more role-players there are on a server the higher the probability you
will find friends or even a guild that fits you, but still, RP is in
the players doing it, not always the server or the statistics.

I can't say I'm not bias towards Emarr.  It's nice to see that Emarr is
considered the #2 RPing server to date.

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