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Chuck - 29 Mar 2004 21:58 GMT
Hello,

I've been grouping for the last 12 levels straight, and my combat
skills have suffered. They weren't all that hot to begin with, but now
they are so low I can't even hit the mobs we're fighting often enough
to skill up between medding and casting. So I need to find some nice
soft hitting very light blues to skill up on. I'm level 31 now and was
hoping someone had some suggestions. Preferably something that doesn?t
hit too hard, and isn't too social. I've been soloing the mammoths in
Ever Frost occasionally over the last few levels, but they hit really
hard. :)

-Chuck. (www.wormspeaker.com)
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42 - 29 Mar 2004 22:18 GMT
You aren't going to get  skill ups often from light blues.

Find a group taking evens or yellows and ask if you can whack on them
for weapon skillups. (I'd stick to creatures  right around your
level... they seem to work best for skillups.)

It sounds like  you are a caster so their is no chance you will KS
them and they should be fine with it. (but don't be an a.s about it if
they aren't... find another group.)

If you happen to be a knight and there is a chance you can KS, or
'threaten to KS' offer to hold back until the mob is less than 75%.

And in these situations your on your own for healing, buffing, etc
(which if you are careful you won't need). Don't expect the group to
take care of you, don't loot, don't get in the way, don't taunt, etc.
Try to be as unobtrusive about it as possible.

You might want to arrange to get your stats buffed, to help with
skillup frequency.

Other than that, look for places where full groups chain single pull
pure melee mobs to a single spot.
Chuck - 29 Mar 2004 23:01 GMT
>It sounds like  you are a caster so their is no chance you will KS
>them and they should be fine with it. (but don't be an a.s about it if
>they aren't... find another group.)

Oh, yeah forgot to mention that. I'm a Shammy, so they probably
wouldn't get too upset if I did that. I used to do that as a ranger to
work on my archery, but forgot all about it.

I'm sure I could find some group that wouldn't mind letting me whack
on some mobs in exchange for some buffs. On the other hand, they'd
probably just invite me into the group, and then I'm in the same boat
all over again. :) (Which all things considered isn't a bad boat to be
in...)

(BTW I've got 24 Piercing, 74 1HB, and like 84 Offense, so I can
barely hit _even_Oh, yeah forgot to mention that. I'm a Shammy, so
they probably wouldn't get too upset if I did that. I used to do that
as a ranger to work on my archery, but forgot all about it.

I'm sure I could find some group that wouldn't mind letting me whack
on some mobs in exchange for some buffs. On the other hand, they'd
probably just invite me into the group, and then I'm in the same boat
all over again. :) (Which all things considered isn't a bad boat to be
in...)

(BTW I've got 25 Piercing and 34 1HB, and like 80 Offense, so I can
barely hit _even_ mobs with any regularity...)

-Chuck. (www.wormspeaker.com)
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Spread love and understanding...
but don't be afraid to bloody your knuckles doing it.
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42 - 29 Mar 2004 23:06 GMT
>>It sounds like  you are a caster so their is no chance you will KS
>>them and they should be fine with it. (but don't be an a.s about it if
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>(BTW I've got 25 Piercing and 34 1HB, and like 80 Offense, so I can
>barely hit _even_ mobs with any regularity...)

Had a little trouble with copy & paste?

You could always eat a few unrezzed deaths if they 'make' you group
with them :p

But yeah thats why I recommended busy areas with full groups. It
maximizes skillup potential and minimizes 'awkward invite issues' :)
Chuck - 29 Mar 2004 23:37 GMT
>Had a little trouble with copy & paste?

Crap... Yes... Hehe. That's what I get for trying to 2Box it. =)

>You could always eat a few unrezzed deaths if they 'make' you group
>with them :p

Hmmm... Interesting things you say... ;)

-Chuck. (www.wormspeaker.com)
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Graeme Faelban - 30 Mar 2004 17:01 GMT
chuck-man@mail.excite.com (Chuck) wrote in news:40689b05.4966069
@nntp.pbtcomm.net:

>>It sounds like  you are a caster so their is no chance you will KS
>>them and they should be fine with it. (but don't be an a.s about it if
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> (BTW I've got 25 Piercing and 34 1HB, and like 80 Offense, so I can
> barely hit _even_ mobs with any regularity...)

My melee had lagged badly on my shaman, at level 65, I finally rectified
my piercing and offense situation.  I went to Fungus Grove, and soloed a
bunch of low dark blue mobs.  Of course, now that I bagged my epic for a
1hb, I am working on raising that.  It was at 60 when I got the 1hb
weapon, up to 88 so far just from smacking mobs on a raid.

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Ray Rocker - 30 Mar 2004 01:45 GMT
>Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Ever Frost occasionally over the last few levels, but they hit really
>hard. :)

Don't ignore your Defense skill either. For priest classes that's
a lot more valuable than Offense or weapon skills in the long run.
At level 31 you've got a perfect opportunity to work on this:
needlites in Echo Caverns. They'll still be dark blue to you but
not by much (they're level 25-ish). Needlites hit VERY fast but
rather low damage per hit making them perfect for Defense training.

--
Ray Rocker
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Huta Thunkit\(TZ\) - 30 Mar 2004 13:30 GMT
>> In article <40688c7b.1531875@nntp.pbtcomm.net>,
>> Chuck <chuck-man@mail.excite.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>> not by much (they're level 25-ish). Needlites hit VERY fast but
>> rather low damage per hit making them perfect for Defense training.

The Needlites should mostely be Dark Blue to you. I just took a Level 33
Cleric there to max out defensive skills as I had never been hit prior to
that ( imagin that a cleric sitting on his but medding never getting to
fight )  Took about 2 hours of soloing to max out all my Defensive and
Offensive skills.  On a side note loot every Stinger Wing and Leg. these
sell well in the Bazaar after you do the faction quest, maybe even before. I
mad almost 250 Plat off those drops, not including the Needlite Queens
drops.
Graeme Faelban - 30 Mar 2004 17:03 GMT
rocker@datasync.com (Ray Rocker) wrote in news:c4afve$ef7$1
@shell.datasync.com:

>>Hello,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> not by much (they're level 25-ish). Needlites hit VERY fast but
> rather low damage per hit making them perfect for Defense training.

A shaman has a tough time ignoring defense skills.  My defense was capped
long before I capped my offensive skills.

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Graeniel, High Elf Enchanter of 25 seasons

Chuck - 31 Mar 2004 07:40 GMT
>> Don't ignore your Defense skill either. For priest classes that's
>> a lot more valuable than Offense or weapon skills in the long run.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>A shaman has a tough time ignoring defense skills.  My defense was capped
>long before I capped my offensive skills.

Actually, My Dodge skill is capped, but my Defense skill was 88 (at
level 31). I'm pretty good at avoiding agro and still doing my job. I
rarely get agro unless it's from a pop or add while I'm medding. (And
I never try to get Agro by doing the same thing twice, more than can
be said for a few Wizards I grouped with in the past, may their souls
rest in peace.) Partly because I'm rather careful about when I Heal,
DoT, and Nuke, and also partly because I've been grouped with some
really excellent groups, full of people that know what they are
supposed to be doing, at least most of them. A big change from the
last time I played (nearly 2 years ago).

An example was last Saturday, grouped in the Overthere for about 4
hours or so I think, with the members changing every so often. Chain
pulling Mobs red to me (and yellow or even to most everyone else). A
Monk was our main tank for most of the time, I was Main Healer for the
entire time, and the backup healer, spent his mana healing me (from
Canni-Dancing) or Nuking and DoTing. Didn't go OOM once, didn't gain
agro once, gained 2 and 1/2 levels. No one died. A great group of
about 12 members for varying lengths of time.

However as for my skill-ups, I went to High Keep, I died once, and I'm
pretty sure trained a group. (Caused a death I think, but some people
said that it was their puller that pulled too many when they needed to
med, so I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure I agroed 2 blues accidentally,
but shortly thereafter 4 more showed up.) Anyway, after apologizing to
them and everyone else, I spent about 3 hours there buffing and
healing the groups as my penance. I made 6, count 'em 6, Piercing
skillups. I seemed to get them faster on the blue mobs, if only
because I hit them more often. I was hitting about once in 5 to 10
try?s on the blues, and once in about 15 to 20 on the yellows. My
offense went up by about 10. My defense however went up by about 25,
because I was taking a pretty serious beating from many of the blues
that popped around me.

I guess I just have to keep at it.

-Chuck. (www.wormspeaker.com)
_____________________________________________________
Spread love and understanding...
but don't be afraid to bloody your knuckles doing it.
                                -Alex Ross
Graeme Faelban - 31 Mar 2004 16:57 GMT
>>> Don't ignore your Defense skill either. For priest classes that's
>>> a lot more valuable than Offense or weapon skills in the long run.
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> because I was taking a pretty serious beating from many of the blues
> that popped around me.

I soloed a lot, so, I got smacked around quite a bit.  When grouped,
barring adds that I need to handle, I don't get hit much.

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Vladesch - 30 Mar 2004 04:20 GMT
> Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Ever Frost occasionally over the last few levels, but they hit really
> hard. :)

Best way if you dont have an alt cleric, is to find an existing group and
practice on their mobs. Id try overthere or dawnshroud.
Damon - 30 Mar 2004 12:05 GMT
>Best way if you dont have an alt cleric, is to find an existing group and
>practice on their mobs. Id try overthere or dawnshroud.

High Pass Keep can be good for that too.  I asked if I could join in
on mobs to get my 1 hand slash up (thief who wants to branch out a
bit) and I went from 0 to 38 in one session.

I got asked to group, too, and gained 2 levels!  Oh, and never
pickpocketed once, out of sheer gratitude  :))

Damon
Aruvqan - 30 Mar 2004 06:03 GMT
> Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> to skill up between medding and casting. So I need to find some nice
> soft hitting very light blues to skill up on.

A good way to get skillups is to find a shammy buddy that is above 60
with a compliant pet that is red to you. /duel and thwack on the pet
until you are bored silly. The shammy buddy pops you heals, haste and
the like as appropriate as you take on his pet. Did this with a baby
berzerker alt to top off all my weapons skills. Was the most boring 4 or
5 hours with only a friends companionship and chatting to make it
tolerable. Maxed out 2HB, 2HP and 2HS nicely, also maxed out offense,
defense, and other assorted skills, but only got kick and frenzy to 50.
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Damon - 30 Mar 2004 12:06 GMT
>A good way to get skillups is to find a shammy buddy that is above 60
>with a compliant pet that is red to you. /duel and thwack on the pet
>until you are bored silly.... [snip]

Very handy tip!

Damon
Graefaxe - 30 Mar 2004 18:17 GMT
: > Hello,
: >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
: tolerable. Maxed out 2HB, 2HP and 2HS nicely, also maxed out offense,
: defense, and other assorted skills, but only got kick and frenzy to 50.

I did the same thing with a warrior vs mage pet.  Kept a cleric nearby to
heal, though, as we were well below 60 at the time.
 
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