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bob - 25 Mar 2004 07:37 GMT how come it will only let me play one character on the FV server? i noticed someone else on this newsgroup has 2 (forget who) could it be that later expansions let you have more than one? (i only have planes of power)
Pamela Carlton - 25 Mar 2004 07:47 GMT > how come it will only let me play one character on the FV server? i noticed > someone else on this newsgroup has 2 (forget who) could it be that later > expansions let you have more than one? (i only have planes of power) They may have 2 accounts they play at the same time
bob - 25 Mar 2004 07:51 GMT > > how come it will only let me play one character on the FV server? i > noticed > > someone else on this newsgroup has 2 (forget who) could it be that later > > expansions let you have more than one? (i only have planes of power) > > > They may have 2 accounts they play at the same time oh, ok...but 2 accounts is twice as much money, right? i think i'm ok with only one character then...
Dark Tyger - 25 Mar 2004 18:06 GMT >> They may have 2 accounts they play at the same time >> >oh, ok...but 2 accounts is twice as much money, right? i think i'm ok with >only one character then... Yeah, but some people feel it's worth it to, say, have a character they can PL the other with. Or, at the very least, always have a cleric to group with.
The character limit is one of many annoying limits/rules on the FV server that, IMO, don't add jack sh.t to RP...
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Wulfbones - 25 Mar 2004 08:13 GMT >how come it will only let me play one character on the FV server? i noticed >someone else on this newsgroup has 2 (forget who) could it be that later >expansions let you have more than one? (i only have planes of power) That's one character per account. If you have two accounts you can have two characters, one per account.
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Scott - 25 Mar 2004 08:40 GMT > how come it will only let me play one character on the FV server? i noticed > someone else on this newsgroup has 2 (forget who) could it be that later > expansions let you have more than one? (i only have planes of power) They have 2 accounts ;p
Vladesch - 25 Mar 2004 08:45 GMT > how come it will only let me play one character on the FV server? i noticed > someone else on this newsgroup has 2 (forget who) could it be that later > expansions let you have more than one? (i only have planes of power) I think Luclin and Planes of power are all you need to get started. The rest are very much optional/obsolete content. Its probably worthwhile still getting kunark and velious as part of a package.
David Navarro - 25 Mar 2004 09:04 GMT Quoth Vladesch:
>> how come it will only let me play one character on the FV server? i > noticed [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The rest are very much optional/obsolete content. Its probably > worthwhile still getting kunark and velious as part of a package. Velious is probably the best, as in "developed with the most care and attention" of all the expansions. You aren't going to get phat l3wt out of it, but to miss it is a disservice to your EQ experience, in my opinion.
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Kayi - 25 Mar 2004 12:50 GMT Because it's a role playing server. SOE has determined to allow only 1 player character creating for this role playing server. You can join other non-role playing server to be able to create more than 1 character.
> how come it will only let me play one character on the FV server? i noticed > someone else on this newsgroup has 2 (forget who) could it be that later > expansions let you have more than one? (i only have planes of power) Scott - 25 Mar 2004 22:48 GMT > Because it's a role playing server. SOE has determined to allow only 1 > player character creating for this role playing server. You can join other [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > someone else on this newsgroup has 2 (forget who) could it be that later > > expansions let you have more than one? (i only have planes of power) I think it would be very difficult to RP 8 diff personalities at once.
Annie Benson-Lennaman - 25 Mar 2004 15:19 GMT > how come it will only let me play one character on the FV server? i noticed > someone else on this newsgroup has 2 (forget who) could it be that later > expansions let you have more than one? (i only have planes of power) Um, that would probably be me. And I've seen that you're already gotten the answer. I would just like to point out that the one character per account rule is the thing most responsible for the server's culture. It is the reason that reputations matter as much as they do, and why you are much less likely to run across a genuine griefer. We have jerks that show up from time to time of course, but they are generally driven from the server before they do too much harm.
Alot of people hate the one character rule, but most of us love it.
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42 - 25 Mar 2004 20:27 GMT >> how come it will only let me play one character on the FV server? i noticed >> someone else on this newsgroup has 2 (forget who) could it be that later [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Alot of people hate the one character rule, but most of us love it. Its enough to keep me far from the server. I like seeing the whole game... with a dozen classes I'm not going to pick just one.
Its not about twinking... the whole game could be no-drop for all i care, its about people.
Sure I could play across multiple servers, but then I'd have to deal with multiple groups of friends.When I flip between characters I'd prefer not to have to switch between friends too.
Maybe if EQ wasn't so rigidly classed I'd play on FV... but even then probably not... if the character system is rich enough to go multiple directions I'd want to see them...
One char per server is not the only way to solve the reputation problem... all you have to do is give each character a last name for the whole account... so what if an iksar and an erudite are family, its a concession I'd be willing to make.
Flimson - 25 Mar 2004 20:49 GMT Is it true that no beneficial buffs cannot be cast on a toon that is 20 levels lower than the caster?
Even if they use the lower level spell?
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John Gordon - 25 Mar 2004 21:26 GMT > Is it true that no beneficial buffs cannot be cast on a toon that is 20 > levels lower than the caster? No, it's not true.
Hmm, well, since this thread has FV in the subject, I guess I should say that I don't play on FV; maybe the rules there are different...
> Even if they use the lower level spell? As far as I know, 49-and-under spells have no target level requirement.
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Lokee - 25 Mar 2004 22:32 GMT > > Is it true that no beneficial buffs cannot be cast on a toon that is 20 > > levels lower than the caster? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Hmm, well, since this thread has FV in the subject, I guess I should say > that I don't play on FV; maybe the rules there are different... At one time, I believe it was true, but now the same restrictions, afaik, are on FV as on other servers; ie, KEI, Virtue, others you must be level 45+ (or 46+) to have cast on you, but I was getting hit with chloroplast by a mid-40's shaman at level 15. It's still stated in the rules for FV, I believe, but was nerfed at some point. It'd be great if the level-limitation for spells and the alignment limitation for grouping were to be brought back. :)
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Graeme Faelban - 25 Mar 2004 22:45 GMT > In <Flimson.13owdm@erollisimarr-dot-com-forum.com> Flimson > <Flimson.13owdm@erollisimarr-dot-com-forum.com> writes: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > As far as I know, 49-and-under spells have no target level > requirement. And it is always based on the level at which you can cast the spell, not what level you are now.
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Winterfury Thunderwolf - 25 Mar 2004 20:53 GMT > Alot of people hate the one character rule, but most of us love it. Count me with Annie on this one, big time.
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Scott - 25 Mar 2004 22:50 GMT > > how come it will only let me play one character on the FV server? i noticed > > someone else on this newsgroup has 2 (forget who) could it be that later [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Alot of people hate the one character rule, but most of us love it. I hate and love it at the same time, I love that it forces me to concentrate on one toon for leveling and what not. I also like to play multiple toons though, I think its a good trade off for everything being tradeable/droppable though. I just made more chars on Stromm to play ;p
> To join the alt.games.everquest chat channel type /join serverwide.age:age > If you want to stayed joined, then after that type /autojoin serverwide.age:age [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > If you can't figure out my email address, you're not supposed to write me. Scott - 25 Mar 2004 22:53 GMT "Annie Benson-Lennaman" <anniebenlen@stopthevoices.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4062EA85
> Um, that would probably be me. And I've seen that you're already gotten the > answer. I would just like to point out that the one character per account rule [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Alot of people hate the one character rule, but most of us love it. Hello Annie, next time you are on, send my Wood Elf Ranger a tell, Name is Deedlett Level 10 now.
Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 03:43 GMT >Hello Annie, next time you are on, send my Wood Elf Ranger a tell, Name is >Deedlett Level 10 now. You are aware that there's a good chance the GMs will change that name at some point in your "life", right?
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10. Fantasy-oriented names that are easily recognized from popular existing media (e.g. Merlin, Gandalf, Belgarath, Drizzt, Tanis).
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Remington Stone - 26 Mar 2004 03:51 GMT Dark Tyger said: }On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:53:40 GMT, "Scott" <NO@SPAM.com> wrote: }>Hello Annie, next time you are on, send my Wood Elf Ranger a tell, Name is }>Deedlett Level 10 now. }You are aware that there's a good chance the GMs will change that name }at some point in your "life", right? }10. Fantasy-oriented names that are easily recognized from popular }existing media (e.g. Merlin, Gandalf, Belgarath, Drizzt, Tanis).
I don't recognize that one. Elaborate? A cursory google suggests a vague anime connection, maybe?
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Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 04:08 GMT >Dark Tyger said: >}On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:53:40 GMT, "Scott" <NO@SPAM.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I don't recognize that one. Elaborate? A cursory google suggests a vague >anime connection, maybe? Record of Lodoss Wars. It's an anime that will be immediately recognized by most any semi-serious anime fan, and especially the ones into D&D.
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Scott - 26 Mar 2004 04:11 GMT > >Dark Tyger said: > >}On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:53:40 GMT, "Scott" <NO@SPAM.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > recognized by most any semi-serious anime fan, and especially the ones > into D&D. Well, if they change it, they change it lol. Just a name.
bizbee - 26 Mar 2004 04:23 GMT On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:08:23 -0800 in <mj7760h24k496qtnrv4016pcssea2ilkqm@4ax.com>, Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> graced the world with this thought:
>>Dark Tyger said: >>}On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:53:40 GMT, "Scott" <NO@SPAM.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >recognized by most any semi-serious anime fan, and especially the ones >into D&D. and you're the guy who had no idea who Akira Kurosawa was and said names from his movies were too obsure to be noticed....
Scott - 26 Mar 2004 04:16 GMT > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:08:23 -0800 in > <mj7760h24k496qtnrv4016pcssea2ilkqm@4ax.com>, Dark Tyger [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > and you're the guy who had no idea who Akira Kurosawa was and said > names from his movies were too obsure to be noticed.... I dont know who Akira Kurosawa is either, however I do know of a late 80's flick called Akira. Perhaps that is who it is?
Graeme Faelban - 26 Mar 2004 16:13 GMT >> On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:08:23 -0800 in >> <mj7760h24k496qtnrv4016pcssea2ilkqm@4ax.com>, Dark Tyger [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I dont know who Akira Kurosawa is either, however I do know of a late > 80's flick called Akira. Perhaps that is who it is? Akira Kurosawa is one of the most highly acclaimed movie directors out there.
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bizbee - 26 Mar 2004 17:14 GMT On 26 Mar 2004 15:13:41 GMT in <Xns94B853B3613B6richardrapiernetscap@130.133.1.4>, Graeme Faelban <RichardRapier@netscape.net> graced the world with this thought:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:08:23 -0800 in >>> <mj7760h24k496qtnrv4016pcssea2ilkqm@4ax.com>, Dark Tyger [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >Akira Kurosawa is one of the most highly acclaimed movie directors out >there. some people just need to set down the comic book and get out more, apparently.
Charles Whitney - 27 Mar 2004 20:56 GMT > > I dont know who Akira Kurosawa is either, however I do know of a late > > 80's flick called Akira. Perhaps that is who it is? > > Akira Kurosawa is one of the most highly acclaimed movie directors out > there. "Was". /sigh, but he was 86 or so when he died.
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Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 04:41 GMT >>Record of Lodoss Wars. It's an anime that will be immediately >>recognized by most any semi-serious anime fan, and especially the ones >>into D&D. > >and you're the guy who had no idea who Akira Kurosawa was and said >names from his movies were too obsure to be noticed.... I don't see the name in nearly every comic and gaming shop I walk into...
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Remington Stone - 26 Mar 2004 04:53 GMT Dark Tyger said: }On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 03:23:01 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net> }wrote: }>>Record of Lodoss Wars. It's an anime that will be immediately }>>recognized by most any semi-serious anime fan, and especially the ones }>>into D&D. }>and you're the guy who had no idea who Akira Kurosawa was and said }>names from his movies were too obsure to be noticed.... }I don't see the name in nearly every comic and gaming shop I walk }into...
Naw, the video store probably has half a rack of his stuff, though. I highly recommend Throne of Blood (his version of Macbeth) and The Hidden Fortress (the movie Lucas has said had a strong influence on the original Star Wars.)
Suddenly, I have an urge to start a Berzerker named Toshiro Mifune. :)
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Graeme Faelban - 26 Mar 2004 16:14 GMT > Dark Tyger said: > }On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 03:23:01 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Suddenly, I have an urge to start a Berzerker named Toshiro Mifune. :) Lol. I also highly recommend some of his early efforts, The Seven Samurai, and Yojimbo. Both were used as the basis for later westerns.
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bizbee - 26 Mar 2004 17:12 GMT On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 03:53:27 +0000 (UTC) in <c409fn$2oa$1@woodrow.ucdavis.edu>, ez064842@vidi.ucdavis.edu (Remington Stone) graced the world with this thought:
>Dark Tyger said: >}On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 03:23:01 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >[37 Enchanter] Zinphandel Chianti (Gnome) Firiona Vie don't forget to mention he's hardly obscure, he's won at least one Academy Award...
Graeme Faelban - 26 Mar 2004 16:11 GMT >>>Record of Lodoss Wars. It's an anime that will be immediately >>>recognized by most any semi-serious anime fan, and especially the ones [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I don't see the name in nearly every comic and gaming shop I walk > into... Yes, well, I have seen many of Akira Kurosawa's highly aclaimed films, never even heard of that anime you are talking about...
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bizbee - 26 Mar 2004 17:11 GMT On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:41:18 -0800 in <vh97601kge2ip99cpm3rroaf0pnrae768e@4ax.com>, Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> graced the world with this thought:
>>>Record of Lodoss Wars. It's an anime that will be immediately >>>recognized by most any semi-serious anime fan, and especially the ones [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I don't see the name in nearly every comic and gaming shop I walk >into... try expanding your horizons beyond comic books. How old did you say you were?
Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 17:34 GMT >>I don't see the name in nearly every comic and gaming shop I walk >>into... > >try expanding your horizons beyond comic books. How old did you say >you were? 27. They are expanded beyond comic shops. I still don't see posters featuring images of him and his name.
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bizbee - 26 Mar 2004 17:19 GMT On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:41:18 -0800 in <vh97601kge2ip99cpm3rroaf0pnrae768e@4ax.com>, Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> graced the world with this thought:
>>>Record of Lodoss Wars. It's an anime that will be immediately >>>recognized by most any semi-serious anime fan, and especially the ones [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I don't see the name in nearly every comic and gaming shop I walk >into... OK, how about naming your character Jesus Christ? I suppose you don't see that in every gaming shop and comic book store you go into either, so using your own logic, that name is absolutely 100% acceptable, eh?
Did I miss the part of the EULA that said unacceptable names had to be found in comic book stores on a regular basis or something?
HannX - 26 Mar 2004 17:30 GMT > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:41:18 -0800 in > <vh97601kge2ip99cpm3rroaf0pnrae768e@4ax.com>, Dark Tyger [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Did I miss the part of the EULA that said unacceptable names had to be > found in comic book stores on a regular basis or something? Heh I have a Paladin named Arthir, is that going to be changed to?
Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 21:22 GMT >> OK, how about naming your character Jesus Christ? I suppose you don't >> see that in every gaming shop and comic book store you go into either, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Heh I have a Paladin named Arthir, is that going to be changed to? I'd say it depends on the surname. A variation of "arthur" in itself should be okay, given that it's a common real name, not one made up for a story. If the surname were a variant of "Pendragon", then there would be a problem. Kinda like Silllvestur would be okay, but adding the surname Stallowne would make it a bad name.
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Jekke, Just Jekke - 27 Mar 2004 05:51 GMT >I'd say it depends on the surname. A variation of "arthur" in itself >should be okay, given that it's a common real name, not one made up >for a story. If the surname were a variant of "Pendragon", then there >would be a problem. Kinda like Silllvestur would be okay, but adding >the surname Stallowne would make it a bad name. This is EQ. It would be Stallpwn.
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Dark Tyger - 27 Mar 2004 07:29 GMT >This is EQ. It would be Stallpwn. Stallpwnzored. ><
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Scott - 27 Mar 2004 11:06 GMT > >I'd say it depends on the surname. A variation of "arthur" in itself > >should be okay, given that it's a common real name, not one made up > >for a story. If the surname were a variant of "Pendragon", then there > >would be a problem. Kinda like Silllvestur would be okay, but adding > >the surname Stallowne would make it a bad name. So if a name is common it is ok but if it is uncommon then it gets changed? So these names are ok with no surname, then why wouldn't Deedlett be fine w/o a surname.
> This is EQ. It would be Stallpwn. Dark Tyger - 27 Mar 2004 18:50 GMT >> >I'd say it depends on the surname. A variation of "arthur" in itself >> >should be okay, given that it's a common real name, not one made up [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >So if a name is common it is ok but if it is uncommon then it gets changed? No, if first name or surname alone is a common real name, it's okay since it can be reasonably argued that there was no intent to copy any real character or celebrety/etc. If it's a name/surname combination that's a match (altered spelling or not) for a character from a recognizable source (recognizable is GM discretion) or a celebrety/historical figure/political figure/etc, then it's not okay. The closer the match to a character/real figure the name is, the "less okay" it is.
>So these names are ok with no surname, then why wouldn't Deedlett be fine >w/o a surname. Because Deedlit was a name created uniquely for the anime in which the character is featured. It originated with the anime. Just like the name Drizzt originated with RAS's books and Gandalf originated with JRRT's books. There's no "common real name" defense in these cases.
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Scott - 27 Mar 2004 23:45 GMT > >> >I'd say it depends on the surname. A variation of "arthur" in itself > >> >should be okay, given that it's a common real name, not one made up [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > name Drizzt originated with RAS's books and Gandalf originated with > JRRT's books. There's no "common real name" defense in these cases. So you are sure that the name Deedlett never existed before this anime movie was created?
Dark Tyger - 27 Mar 2004 23:55 GMT >So you are sure that the name Deedlett never existed before this anime movie >was created? None of my searches turn up any matches that weren't Lodoss beyond people's EQ/DAoC/etc character profiles.
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Scott - 28 Mar 2004 00:05 GMT > >So you are sure that the name Deedlett never existed before this anime movie > >was created? > > None of my searches turn up any matches that weren't Lodoss beyond > people's EQ/DAoC/etc character profiles. I really don't care if they change the name, the char is the char, her skills, and equipment will remain the same, the similar name is really just a coincidence, I saw the name Deedlette in a chat room once and liked it but it was rejected by the server so I dropped the 'e' and voila, it worked.
Charles Whitney - 28 Mar 2004 01:45 GMT > >> OK, how about naming your character Jesus Christ? I suppose you don't > >> see that in every gaming shop and comic book store you go into either, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > would be a problem. Kinda like Silllvestur would be okay, but adding > the surname Stallowne would make it a bad name. I'll ask the question again then. Would naming my character Jesus be okay then, assuming that I don't take the surname Christ?
Probably not, as I'm obviously ripping off the name of that small child in "A Fistful of Dollars".
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Dark Tyger - 28 Mar 2004 04:08 GMT >I'll ask the question again then. Would naming my character Jesus be okay >then, assuming that I don't take the surname Christ? In spite of the fact it's a common hispanic name, no. Among most Christian cultures, mention "Jesus", and Christ comes to mind. There are certain exceptions to what I had stated, and those exceptions should be obvious such as this one. There is no solidly defined line. GM discretion makes the final decision as to whether a name is okay or not.
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Jonathan - 28 Mar 2004 21:03 GMT > I'll ask the question again then. Would naming my character Jesus be > okay then, assuming that I don't take the surname Christ? > > Probably not, as I'm obviously ripping off the name of that small > child in "A Fistful of Dollars". No, in fact Jesus is mentioned as a name in violation of Naming Policy rule number 3: "Names of religious, occult, or significant historic origin (e.g. Jesus, Allah, Satan, Stalin, Angel, Devil, Demon)"
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Charles Whitney - 28 Mar 2004 23:25 GMT > > I'll ask the question again then. Would naming my character Jesus be > > okay then, assuming that I don't take the surname Christ? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > "Names of religious, occult, or significant historic origin (e.g. Jesus, > Allah, Satan, Stalin, Angel, Devil, Demon)" Except it's not Gee-zus, it's Hay-zoos, quite clearly chosen with no intention of invoking the Christian Messiah whatsoever.
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Davian - 28 Mar 2004 23:28 GMT > > > I'll ask the question again then. Would naming my character Jesus be > > > okay then, assuming that I don't take the surname Christ? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Except it's not Gee-zus, it's Hay-zoos, quite clearly chosen with no > intention of invoking the Christian Messiah whatsoever. Considering nobody can hear you pronounce over the internet, I'd say matching the spelling exactly does not quite meet the criteria for "quite clearly chosen with no intention". Unless you're using some non-standard definition of "quite clearly". Heh.
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Dark Tyger - 29 Mar 2004 01:05 GMT >> No, in fact Jesus is mentioned as a name in violation of Naming Policy >rule [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Except it's not Gee-zus, it's Hay-zoos, quite clearly chosen with no >intention of invoking the Christian Messiah whatsoever. "Hay-zoos" is simply the hispanic pronunciation of what we pronounce as "Jee-zus", and, yes, those with that name are named after the Christian Messiah. Yeah, there are really people named Moses, but that's a bad name, too. THe name being instantly recognizable to every player of the game as that of a religious figure makes it a bad name, even if you're taking the name of someone who was named after that figure.
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bizbee - 29 Mar 2004 13:30 GMT On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:25:03 -0500 in <c47jbu$2g6kdq$1@ID-193649.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Charles Whitney" <cbillingsw@yahoo.com> graced the world with this thought:
>> > I'll ask the question again then. Would naming my character Jesus be >> > okay then, assuming that I don't take the surname Christ? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >C ...and I suppose if you spelled it Hayzoos, you wouldn't have a problem, despite what a stupid, persistant attempt it is at naming your character Jesus.
Charles Whitney - 31 Mar 2004 23:18 GMT > On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:25:03 -0500 in > <c47jbu$2g6kdq$1@ID-193649.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Charles Whitney" [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > problem, despite what a stupid, persistant attempt it is at naming > your character Jesus. But that wouldn't be allowed, as I noted earlier, because it's quite obviously ripping off the character from the Sergio Leone film, especially if I run around North Ro whining about how I want to see my "mama".
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John Lynch, Jr. - 31 Mar 2004 13:19 GMT > > >> OK, how about naming your character Jesus Christ? I suppose you don't > > >> see that in every gaming shop and comic book store you go into either, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > C "Jesus" with the "j" pronounced as "h" is a very popluar Spanish name.
Rumbledor - 31 Mar 2004 14:55 GMT >> > >> OK, how about naming your character Jesus Christ? I suppose you >> > >> don't see that in every gaming shop and comic book store you go [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > "Jesus" with the "j" pronounced as "h" is a very popluar Spanish name. Heh, one of my kids' friends is hispanic and his father's name is Jesus. Their last name is Consteillo or something similar. Whey their friend calls our house, it comes through on caller id as "Jesus C".
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John Lynch, Jr. - 31 Mar 2004 13:16 GMT > >> OK, how about naming your character Jesus Christ? I suppose you don't > >> see that in every gaming shop and comic book store you go into either, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > would be a problem. Kinda like Silllvestur would be okay, but adding > the surname Stallowne would make it a bad name. What if I had Sillvester Putttytat?
Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 17:36 GMT >OK, how about naming your character Jesus Christ? I suppose you don't >see that in every gaming shop and comic book store you go into either, >so using your own logic, that name is absolutely 100% acceptable, eh? Err, f.ck you. That logic is not mine, it's yours and you damn well know it. Back into the killfile with you until you get your f.cking head out of your a.s instead of trying to be argumentative for the sake of being contrary.
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Graeme Faelban - 26 Mar 2004 19:41 GMT >>OK, how about naming your character Jesus Christ? I suppose you don't >>see that in every gaming shop and comic book store you go into either, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > head out of your a.s instead of trying to be argumentative for the > sake of being contrary. Lol.
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Remington Stone - 26 Mar 2004 04:56 GMT Dark Tyger said: }Record of Lodoss Wars. It's an anime that will be immediately }recognized by most any semi-serious anime fan, and especially the ones }into D&D.
So... If we assume I don't know squat about anime, but always sort of felt like I should, what're the first three things I should definitely watch? (Ok, not counting Akira and Cowboy Bebop, somehow I managed to catch those. :) )
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HannX - 26 Mar 2004 09:15 GMT > Dark Tyger said: > }Record of Lodoss Wars. It's an anime that will be immediately [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > [37 Enchanter] Zinphandel Chianti (Gnome) Firiona Vie FLCL should be at the top of the list
Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 17:31 GMT >FLCL should be at the top of the list Good lord, no. That show makes absolutely no sense...
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HannX - 26 Mar 2004 17:34 GMT > >FLCL should be at the top of the list > > Good lord, no. That show makes absolutely no sense... I dont know, pretty easy for me to follow, just watch it a few more times, I watch it alot, prob twice a month. Hope there are sequels.
patrik@nordebo.com - 26 Mar 2004 09:54 GMT > So... If we assume I don't know squat about anime, but always sort of > felt like I should, what're the first three things I should definitely > watch? (Ok, not counting Akira and Cowboy Bebop, somehow I managed to > catch those. :) ) Anything by Hayao Miyazaki, especially "Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi" ("Spirited Away"). "Mononoke Hime" ("Princess Mononoke") is also very good, but "Spirited Away" is one of the best films I've ever seen, all categories.
HannX - 26 Mar 2004 13:33 GMT > > So... If we assume I don't know squat about anime, but always sort of > > felt like I should, what're the first three things I should definitely [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > good, but "Spirited Away" is one of the best films I've ever seen, all > categories. I have seen Spirited Away and very good yes, still have to go rent/buy Princess Mononoke ;p.
Noone else wants to agree with me on FLCL though ??????
Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 17:38 GMT >Noone else wants to agree with me on FLCL though ?????? Absolutely not, especially for someone that's not VERY familiar with Anime and japanese culture. Damn, that show will probably scare a new fan away from anime.
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HannX - 26 Mar 2004 17:50 GMT > >Noone else wants to agree with me on FLCL though ?????? > > Absolutely not, especially for someone that's not VERY familiar with > Anime and japanese culture. Damn, that show will probably scare a new > fan away from anime. Its one of the only good animes to come out this year, im sorry if you couldn't follow it but that doesn't mean noone else wont like it. Maybe you should watch the directors commentary to help you understand it. I hope you have seen the full unedited versions and not the shortened pieces of crap they played on cartoon network recently. Any true fan of anime doesn't watch what is played on cartoon network, those bastards, but I do like Sealab 2021, Home Movies, Aquateen Hunger Force, Mission Hill and a few others.
Remington Stone - 26 Mar 2004 20:28 GMT HannX said: }> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:33:29 GMT, "HannX" <hannibal@columbus.rr.com> }> >Noone else wants to agree with me on FLCL though ??????
Err... So what's it stand for, anyway?
}Any true fan of anime doesn't }watch what is played on cartoon network, those bastards, but I do like }... Home Movies
The ads for Home Movies alone make me scream in pain and hunt for the mute button.
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HannX - 26 Mar 2004 22:05 GMT > HannX said: > }> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:33:29 GMT, "HannX" <hannibal@columbus.rr.com> > }> >Noone else wants to agree with me on FLCL though ?????? > > Err... So what's it stand for, anyway? Stands for Fooly Cooly, (google) also since the japanese have no character for the L sound it can also be known as Furi Kuri
> }Any true fan of anime doesn't > }watch what is played on cartoon network, those bastards, but I do like [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > [37 Enchanter] Zinphandel Chianti (Gnome) Firiona Vie The adds are not very good but I like the show ;p
Remington Stone - 27 Mar 2004 00:52 GMT HannX said: }"Remington Stone" <ez064842@veni.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message }> HannX said: }> }> On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 12:33:29 GMT, "HannX" <hannibal@columbus.rr.com> }> }> >Noone else wants to agree with me on FLCL though ?????? }> Err... So what's it stand for, anyway? }Stands for Fooly Cooly, (google) also since the japanese have no character }for the L sound it can also be known as Furi Kuri
Thanks, mayhap I'll check that one out.
}> }Any true fan of anime doesn't }> }watch what is played on cartoon network, those bastards, but I do like }> }... Home Movies }> The ads for Home Movies alone make me scream in pain and hunt for the }> mute button. }The adds are not very good but I like the show ;p
Aye, I've never watched the show. Perhaps I'll catch it some day when my girlfriend isn't home to veto. :)
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Scott - 27 Mar 2004 05:07 GMT > HannX said: > }"Remington Stone" <ez064842@veni.ucdavis.edu> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks, mayhap I'll check that one out. It comes in a set of 3 DVDs about 30 bucks each but the best 100 dollars I've spent in a while. I still have fun watching it and have probably seen it 30 times.
> }> }Any true fan of anime doesn't > }> }watch what is played on cartoon network, those bastards, but I do like [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > [37 Enchanter] Zinphandel Chianti (Gnome) Firiona Vie Celaeno - 26 Mar 2004 22:42 GMT Did you say something, ez064842@veni.ucdavis.edu (Remington Stone)?
>HannX said:
>}Any true fan of anime doesn't >}watch what is played on cartoon network, those bastards, but I do like >}... Home Movies > >The ads for Home Movies alone make me scream in pain and hunt for the >mute button. My sweetie likes Home Movies. I begrudgingly endured it (got pretty good at falling asleep while it was on, actually) last summer.
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Remington Stone - 26 Mar 2004 20:24 GMT said: }ez064842@vidi.ucdavis.edu (Remington Stone) writes: }> So... If we assume I don't know squat about anime, but always sort of }> felt like I should, what're the first three things I should definitely }> watch? (Ok, not counting Akira and Cowboy Bebop, somehow I managed to }> catch those. :) ) }Anything by Hayao Miyazaki, especially "Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi" }("Spirited Away"). "Mononoke Hime" ("Princess Mononoke") is also very }good, but "Spirited Away" is one of the best films I've ever seen, all }categories.
Oh, yeah, and I saw those, too. Somehow, they make it into the 'really good movie' category in my mind, so somehow I forget that they should also be in the 'anime' category. :)
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Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 17:25 GMT >Dark Tyger said: >}Record of Lodoss Wars. It's an anime that will be immediately [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >watch? (Ok, not counting Akira and Cowboy Bebop, somehow I managed to >catch those. :) ) Depends on what you like. My offhand suggestions, though, would be to go onto Kazaa or some such and grab fansubs of Inu Yasha (the Cartoon Network dubs are horrible. They even have one of the characters sounding like Jar Jar Binks, for gods' sake!). Also check out Trigun (Good mix of serious and silly) and Ghost in the Shell (Has a sort of Blade Runner feel to it. Considered a classic by most).
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Remington Stone - 27 Mar 2004 00:53 GMT Dark Tyger said: }(Remington Stone) wrote: }>Dark Tyger said: }>}Record of Lodoss Wars. It's an anime that will be immediately }>}recognized by most any semi-serious anime fan, and especially the ones }>}into D&D. }>So... If we assume I don't know squat about anime, but always sort of }>felt like I should, what're the first three things I should definitely }>watch? (Ok, not counting Akira and Cowboy Bebop, somehow I managed to }>catch those. :) ) }Depends on what you like. My offhand suggestions, though, would be to }go onto Kazaa or some such and grab fansubs of Inu Yasha (the Cartoon }Network dubs are horrible. They even have one of the characters }sounding like Jar Jar Binks, for gods' sake!). Also check out Trigun }(Good mix of serious and silly) and Ghost in the Shell (Has a sort of }Blade Runner feel to it. Considered a classic by most).
Ahh, Inu Yasha and GitS I have heard of before. I'll definitely have to check those out at some point. Thanks. :)
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Ben Sisson - 27 Mar 2004 01:20 GMT A thousand monkeys banging on keyboards posted the following under the name ez064842@vidi.ucdavis.edu (Remington Stone):
>Dark Tyger said: >}(Remington Stone) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Ahh, Inu Yasha and GitS I have heard of before. I'll definitely have to >check those out at some point. Thanks. :) Btw don't know if you care or not but your nonstandard quote indicator ( } ) looks fuggin horrible in fonts that don't have the same size for every character including making it much harder to read. What's wrong with ( > ) like everyone else?
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Remington Stone - 27 Mar 2004 03:50 GMT Ben Sisson said: }Btw don't know if you care or not but your nonstandard quote indicator }( } ) looks fuggin horrible in fonts
Actually, I do care. Not very much, but the caring is there. I hadn't really thought about how it looks in other fonts. It's not the first problem I've had with it, though. Once, in another newsgroup, someone ran a lovely newsgroup stats program, and I came out as the only poster who posted only 100% original text with no quoting. :) This being a mysteriously erroneous result, he fixed the stats program to account for my odd predilection.
}that don't have the same size for every character including making it }much harder to read.
Reading USENET with a proportional-spacing font! Aggh! Sorry, I consider that a sin. Almost, but not quite, as bad as eating fish on a friday and pretending it's not meat. Were I ever to indulge in ASCII art, your appreciation for my lovely pictures would be completely destroyed by such a font.
}What's wrong with ( > ) like everyone else?
There's nothing -wrong- with being just like everyone else, I suppose. But "}" looks really spiffy in -my- font(s). And I do rather -like- not being like everyone else, and it seems a harmless enough way in which to do so. There was also in my mind the idea that the standard ">" character might result in more confusion when discussing HTML. Of course, "}" is gonna mess up a conversation about C just as much. :)
Your complaint, however, is duly noted, and I shall think on it. Perhaps, at some point, I'll go to the trouble of changing it to something else, but I haven't actually looked at the man page for my newsreader in about 6-7 years since I configured it that way, and I remember it being particularly opaque, so it may take some time to figure out.
I felt quite proud of getting it to do that. I'm shocked to discover I've been annoying people for -years- and nobody ever told me!
But tell me, how would it look if I
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Those also look fairly cool to me. Would one of those be less troublesome?
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Scott - 27 Mar 2004 05:09 GMT > Ben Sisson said: > }Btw don't know if you care or not but your nonstandard quote indicator [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > [37 Enchanter] Zinphandel Chianti (Gnome) Firiona Vie My favorite ;p
Annie Benson-Lennaman - 27 Mar 2004 06:10 GMT Remington said: |quoted |like |this?
I vote for this one. Clean and elegant looking. Two thumbs up.
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Kingsmythe - 27 Mar 2004 06:18 GMT > Ben Sisson said: > }Btw don't know if you care or not but your nonstandard quote indicator [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > [37 Enchanter] Zinphandel Chianti (Gnome) Firiona Vie I like the look of these two, don't so much like your current one. But then, I don't use a proportional-spacing font, so it's more a matter of form than function, for me.
Ben Sisson - 27 Mar 2004 06:23 GMT A thousand monkeys banging on keyboards posted the following under the name ez064842@vidi.ucdavis.edu (Remington Stone):
>Ben Sisson said:
>}Btw don't know if you care or not but your nonstandard quote indicator >}( } ) looks fuggin horrible in fonts [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >|like >|this? These ones are at least recognized by Agent to be quote markers (the ones below aren't by default). But they all have the same flaw - with non fixed size fonts they are very narrow and therefore very hard on the eyes. The last one, the one Annie likes, is the worst of all.
But if those are what you are going to choose from, might as well keep what you are using now. They're all as narrow or even narrower than }.
>Remington said: >~quoted [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Those also look fairly cool to me. Would one of those be less >troublesome? I wouldn't even read replies by someone using those two. :-p
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Annie Benson-Lennaman - 27 Mar 2004 16:22 GMT > These ones are at least recognized by Agent to be quote markers (the > ones below aren't by default). But they all have the same flaw - with > non fixed size fonts they are very narrow and therefore very hard on > the eyes. The last one, the one Annie likes, is the worst of all. Well, then... I guess I don't have non fixed sized fonts then. Good to know. I guess. Maybe. Or maybe my minimalistic tastes just plain suck. I guess that would also be good to know. But which it is? Hmmm...
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Remington Stone - 29 Mar 2004 22:35 GMT Annie Benson-Lennaman said: }Ben Sisson wrote: }> These ones are at least recognized by Agent to be quote markers (the }> ones below aren't by default). But they all have the same flaw - with }> non fixed size fonts they are very narrow and therefore very hard on }> the eyes. The last one, the one Annie likes, is the worst of all. } Well, then... I guess I don't have non fixed sized fonts then. Good to }know. I guess. Maybe. Or maybe my minimalistic tastes just plain suck. I }guess that would also be good to know. But which it is? Hmmm...
Definitely (a). Fixed size fonts and minimalism all the way!
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Remington Stone - 29 Mar 2004 22:34 GMT Ben Sisson said: }name ez064842@vidi.ucdavis.edu (Remington Stone): }>Ben Sisson said: }>}Btw don't know if you care or not but your nonstandard quote indicator }>}( } ) looks fuggin horrible in fonts }>Remington said: }>:quoted }>or }>Remington said: }>]quoted }>or }>Remington said: }>|quoted }These ones are at least recognized by Agent to be quote markers (the }ones below aren't by default). But they all have the same flaw - with }non fixed size fonts they are very narrow and therefore very hard on }the eyes. The last one, the one Annie likes, is the worst of all. }But if those are what you are going to choose from, might as well keep }what you are using now. They're all as narrow or even narrower than }.
Heh, think I'll keep what I've got, then. :) I see colon and pipe used by other folks often enough to impinge on my sense of uniqueness. I was kinda hoping ] would be a favored choice.
Or I could go back to the really mean choice of '<' and hose up anyone whose newsreader ignores spurious HTML tags. :)
}>Remington said: }>~quoted }>or }>Remington said: }>=quoted }>Those also look fairly cool to me. Would one of those be less }>troublesome? }I wouldn't even read replies by someone using those two. :-p
Ya, those were pretty much red herrings. :)
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Dark Tyger - 27 Mar 2004 01:50 GMT >Ahh, Inu Yasha and GitS I have heard of before. I'll definitely have to >check those out at some point. Thanks. :) I'm almost through the fansub Inu Yasha series. I think they're still making the series in Japan, not sure. It's kinda hard to get the episodes DLed, there are something in the order of 130 of them. I've been grabbing 10 at a time. Just gotta search one episode at a time and use 3 different variants of the title. ( ie "Inu Yasha 20" "Inuyasha 20" and "Inu-Yasha 20" ) Usually you'll get multiple versions, and sometimes you have to try to DL them all to get one that actually downloads. (One thing that bugs the hell out of me about Kazaa... The search turns up results, but it tells me "needs more sources" when I try to DL. If there weren't enough sources, why the hell does it give me a hit on the search?! :( )
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Scott - 26 Mar 2004 04:10 GMT > Dark Tyger said: > }On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:53:40 GMT, "Scott" <NO@SPAM.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > [37 Enchanter] Zinphandel Chianti (Gnome) Firiona Vie If it is, that's just a coincidence then.
Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 04:40 GMT >If it is, that's just a coincidence then. Yeah, f.cking right. And Wal-Mart treats their employees fairly.
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HannX - 26 Mar 2004 09:15 GMT > >If it is, that's just a coincidence then. > > Yeah, f.cking right. And Wal-Mart treats their employees fairly. lol
Matt - 29 Mar 2004 08:27 GMT >>If it is, that's just a coincidence then. > > Yeah, f.cking right. And Wal-Mart treats their employees fairly. I had one of my chars names changed and it was a random name and they quoted that rule. :-/
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Scott - 29 Mar 2004 10:42 GMT > >>If it is, that's just a coincidence then. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Matt What was the old name? What was it changed to?
Scott - 26 Mar 2004 04:09 GMT > >Hello Annie, next time you are on, send my Wood Elf Ranger a tell, Name is > >Deedlett Level 10 now. > > You are aware that there's a good chance the GMs will change that name > at some point in your "life", right? http://eqlive.station.sony.com/support/customer_service/cs_naming_policy.jsp
> 10. Fantasy-oriented names that are easily recognized from popular > existing media (e.g. Merlin, Gandalf, Belgarath, Drizzt, Tanis). Ummm, Why would they change it again?
Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 04:39 GMT >> You are aware that there's a good chance the GMs will change that name >> at some point in your "life", right? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Ummm, Why would they change it again? The fact that it's a direct ripoff from one of the most well-known anime series out there. Try reading that rule I quoted.
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Adam Russell - 26 Mar 2004 05:57 GMT > >> You are aware that there's a good chance the GMs will change that name > >> at some point in your "life", right? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The fact that it's a direct ripoff from one of the most well-known > anime series out there. Try reading that rule I quoted. "Easily recognized" does not mean by cognoscenti, it means by the common player. Believe it or dont. It is in fact rather unlikely that the name would be changed.
Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 17:26 GMT >> The fact that it's a direct ripoff from one of the most well-known >> anime series out there. Try reading that rule I quoted. > >"Easily recognized" does not mean by cognoscenti, it means by the common >player. Anime fans are very common these days, and Lodoss is pretty widely known. Yeah, there are those who don't follow anime and haven't heard of it, but it is still pretty commonly recognized.
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HannX - 26 Mar 2004 09:16 GMT > >> You are aware that there's a good chance the GMs will change that name > >> at some point in your "life", right? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The fact that it's a direct ripoff from one of the most well-known > anime series out there. Try reading that rule I quoted. I think the word "easily" is in there.
Graeme Faelban - 26 Mar 2004 16:16 GMT >>> You are aware that there's a good chance the GMs will change that >>> name at some point in your "life", right? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > The fact that it's a direct ripoff from one of the most well-known > anime series out there. Try reading that rule I quoted. I've watched quite a bit of anime DT, never even heard of that one, so, just because you know it well, does not make it that well known.
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Dark Tyger - 26 Mar 2004 17:33 GMT >> The fact that it's a direct ripoff from one of the most well-known >> anime series out there. Try reading that rule I quoted. > >I've watched quite a bit of anime DT, never even heard of that one, so, >just because you know it well, does not make it that well known. And just because you don't know it doesn't mean it's not well known. Fact is, it's a rarity in my experience to find an anime fan that doesn't know Lodoss. The fact that I've seen about 20 variations of the name in EQ before also indicates that it can be considered "well known".
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Annie Benson-Lennaman - 26 Mar 2004 16:12 GMT > Hello Annie, next time you are on, send my Wood Elf Ranger a tell, Name is > Deedlett Level 10 now. Hi Scott. I can say I'll try, but I can pretty much guarantee that I won't remember this when I get in game. I sometimes even forget to say hi to my guild. You can send a tell to me, of course, or join age.chat where you are pretty much guaranteed to hear me blurt out something amusingly inappropriate sooner or later.
 Signature Annie
To join the alt.games.everquest chat channel type /join serverwide.age:age If you want to stayed joined, then after that type /autojoin serverwide.age:age
Currently playing:
Teapray-- 52 High Elf Cleric on Firiona Vie
Lentea-- 39 Ogre Beastlord On Firiona Vie
Teajust-- 9 Froglok Shaman on Morden Rasp
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