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Game Forum / Action Games / Doom / September 2004Handicap Mode
Am I the only one that would like to see a handicap mode in multiplayer games? I have a friend with two kids that enjoy playing Quake3. I think the main reason we have been able to play for so long is because we can adjust the skill of the weaker players. I think more people would play multiplayer games if there was a handicap option. For multiplayer FPS games to be fun you have to be able to get roughly the same amount of frags. As long as you are getting frags the game will be fun. Everyone still knows who the bad a.s is, but he is still laying on the floor with the rest.  SignatureKilowatt@charter.net Add "private" to the subject line. > Am I the only one that would like to see a handicap mode in multiplayer > games? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Everyone still knows who the bad a.s is, but he is still laying on the floor > with the rest. So how do you 'handicap' the better players, in a multiplayer shoot- em-up? Just curious... -Marshall On 9/27/2004 11:10 PM Marshall brightened our day with: > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Set max health lower. It's like playing Doom3 on nightmare in multiplayer. The handicapped player starts with health 50, and even with powerups, the health still returns to 50. In quake3 you could set it to whatever you wanted. Signature"...forged but accurate." Steve ¤»Inglo«¤ www.inglostadt.com > On 9/27/2004 11:10 PM Marshall brightened our day with: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > with powerups, the health still returns to 50. In quake3 you could set > it to whatever you wanted. But it would have worked better if the server would do some kind of autoadjusting. When we first started the two kids had very high handicaps. My friends daughter couldn't even put her crosshairs on the target, but she could still kill us pretty fast. I was very surprised how quick the handicap needed to be lowered. Because everyone got usually the same amount of frags each game it really was fun for all. The best player almost never won, but because they had no handicap you still know who the bad a.s was. bad-a.s mf's rule - if you hadn't noticed, servers are full of folk who frag newbie a.s - it takes time to practice, and D3 is at best a MP extension of Q2, but only a fraction as good.Can;t take the heat ? stay out the kitchen... sermon over - I'll see you in hell :) > > On 9/27/2004 11:10 PM Marshall brightened our day with: > > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > The best player almost never won, but because they had no handicap you still > know who the bad a.s was. And they will always be there. All I am asking is for the option to play with a handicap. It is a good idea for some. > bad-a.s mf's rule - if you hadn't noticed, servers are full of folk > who frag newbie a.s - it takes time to practice, and D3 is at best a MP [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > still > > know who the bad a.s was. actually, thinking about it, guess I'd agree - it might make a difference in d3 - can't see there being the same mass multiplayer carnage as Q2 with the new engine... > And they will always be there. All I am asking is for the option to play > with a handicap. [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > > still > > > know who the bad a.s was. hehe good point. A handicap option would be a great idea, but I guess fundamentally a few knobs wouldnt like to see it. It could be implemented to trigger when someone gets x amount of kills in x amount of time ratio'd with the lowest score possibly. Slower gunfire, less health, player flashing, who knows. Its a good idea nonetheless. > Am I the only one that would like to see a handicap mode in multiplayer > games? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > floor > with the rest. >Am I the only one that would like to see a handicap mode in multiplayer >games? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I think more people would play multiplayer games if there was a handicap >option. In my opinion, the handicap option is only useful in a non-tournament lan setting. It doesn't work as well when you go into online play, especially if players join and leave as the game progresses. Also, the system used in Quake 3 is a bit primitive - there was a mod somewhere (don't remember the name) that gives a bit more control over how handicapping works, as well as allowing it to be adjusted dynamically. > >Am I the only one that would like to see a handicap mode in multiplayer > >games? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > somewhere (don't remember the name) that gives a bit more control over how > handicapping works, as well as allowing it to be adjusted dynamically. I didn't get to see that mod, but dynamically adjusting the settings is what it is going to take to make it catch on. The goal becomes being the guy with the less handicap, but as long as he is falling as often as everyone else then it is fun for all. You still get to walk away as the bad a.s. >> >Am I the only one that would like to see a handicap mode in multiplayer >> >games? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > with the less handicap, but as long as he is falling as often as everyone > else then it is fun for all. You still get to walk away as the bad a.s. It would be fun for all in a friendly LAN setting, but would go over like a lead ballon on public servers, where high-score is all that most people care about. Looking for sympathy on XYZ-Server because your skills or ping aren't up to snuff with the 'bad-a.ses'? LOL! Yeah, right ;-) Most internet servers are pure, raw, dog-eat-dog, and sympathy for those with lesser skills or higher pings doesn't fit in at all, in any I've ever been on. -Marshall > >> >Am I the only one that would like to see a handicap mode in multiplayer > >> >games? [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > lesser skills or higher pings doesn't fit in at all, in any I've ever been on. > -Marshall I think you underestimate this. With dynamic skill adjustments you are still very aware of who the best player is but he has to lay down just like everyone else. I guess you have never left a server after having your a.s handed to you on a platter. I know I have. >> "Kilowatt" <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message > news:kdg6d.642814$Gx4.279676@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > still very aware of who the best player is but he has to lay down just like > everyone else. Point is, they don't want to spend any time dirt-napping, if they can avoid it. Just killing, irregardless of the skills of who they are killing. I don't say your suggestion doesn't have merit, just that to the vast majority of online players wouldn't care for it. It isn't just about being a bad-a.s killer, it's about *not* getting your own a.s killed, either. That is the other half of the 'bad-a.s' online formula- kill, but don't_get_killed yourself. > I guess you have never left a server after having your a.s handed to you on > a platter. I know I have. On the contrary, with my 56k connection, I spent most of my time near the bottom of the online heap, in the kills/deaths ratio. And that was back when fewer players had broadband. Now, it's so bad for the few of us remaining high-ping bastards, that I hardly ever bother with online shooters, except for the rare games where coop against the AI is possible. But my beef wasn't about skill levels, just about ping- which was my problem, not theirs. But it would be great if some online servers were able to take your suggestion and run with it, catering to those who would like to play using the handicap theory. Variety is the spice. -Marshall > >> >Am I the only one that would like to see a handicap mode in multiplayer > >> >games? [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > lesser skills or higher pings doesn't fit in at all, in any I've ever been on. > -Marshall Whether it catches on for everyone or not, don't you think it would be a nice option to have? I post it publicly hoping someone that has the power to change things might hear. >> "Kilowatt" <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote in message > news:kdg6d.642814$Gx4.279676@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > I post it publicly hoping someone that has the power to change things might > hear. Would be fine with me, as I said in my other reply, variety is the spice. If there was enough desire for it in the online community, it might catch on. -Marshall |
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