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Game Forum / Action Games / Doom / September 2004Nice Try, But...
Enjoyed this game but it just didn't make the list of my favorites. Too much dark dieing. Bugged me that after neutralizing an area something would always jump out from no where and nail me. My last couple of games were NWN and KOTOR, different I know, but I played them for months. This one I played through once then had to experiment to keep up my interest. It was a bit of fun editing the weapons so that they gave me far greater destruction, but even that lost my interest after Hell. If there were some mods out there to keep up some interest it might have helped but I don't see any. Sorry to see the Doom series end with this one. I just don't see how there could be a IV after this one. Meanwhile, there are new mods in the other games attracting me. AMF > Enjoyed this game but it just didn't make the list of my favorites. > Too much dark dieing. Bugged me that after neutralizing an area > something would always jump out from no where and nail me. For me, the "scariness" of the game was a semi-novel idea for a while. But after a few hours, it just becomes predictable, boring, and over-done. "Look, something for me to pick up. That means that a bad guy will appear when I do." "Look, a bad guy just appeared. That must mean that another one appeared right behind me." "Oooh, a dark corner. A bad guy must appear behind/beside me when I go through there." steve > For me, the "scariness" of the game was a semi-novel idea for a while. > But after a few hours, it just becomes predictable, boring, and over-done. > "Look, something for me to pick up. That means that a bad guy will appear > when I do." Bullshit. This only happens a few times in Doom3. > "Look, a bad guy just appeared. That must mean that another > one appeared right behind me." "Oooh, a dark corner. A bad guy must appear > behind/beside me when I go through there." Do you always talk like an 8 year old child?  Signature-Scott "Spreading a little of my sunshine throughout Usenet hell." >> For me, the "scariness" of the game was a semi-novel idea for a while. >> But after a few hours, it just becomes predictable, boring, and over-done. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Bullshit. >This only happens a few times in Doom3. If it's that low, then why aren't you giving an exact number? Besides, even if it does happen to be a fairly low number, such things stick out much more significantly as it is a sign of inexperienced level design. The only game which seems to have done "monster spawning on item pickup" sequence was with the Serious Sam series - in those cases, it was either somewhat obvious or otherwise considered valid. >> "Look, a bad guy just appeared. That must mean that another >> one appeared right behind me." "Oooh, a dark corner. A bad guy must >appear >> behind/beside me when I go through there." > >Do you always talk like an 8 year old child? Is your lack of argument agreeing with his statement? Of course, given your other recent postings, I doubt you have a complaint with his behaviour either. > >> For me, the "scariness" of the game was a semi-novel idea for a while. > >> But after a few hours, it just becomes predictable, boring, and over-done. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > pickup" sequence was with the Serious Sam series - in those cases, it was > either somewhat obvious or otherwise considered valid. Your take on the game is the same that many of the media pundits are spouting now. The gameplay is predicable, it is dark and repetitious. I'll add that there is no character development and you develop no empathy for the main character. The game is a showcase for the engine, which will spawn many new, engaging titles for years to come. Doom3 is an utter disappoint in gameplay when compared to Far Cry and Painkiller. I never even finished Doom3 and have no desire to do so. Even the MP sucks. I'll check around for total mods in a few months and hope I get some value for my 55.00 dollar preview of the Id game engine. >> >> For me, the "scariness" of the game was a semi-novel idea for a > while. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > total mods in a few months and hope I get some value for my 55.00 dollar > preview of the Id game engine. What?! You're saying the gameplay in Painkiller is better than D3? If you've actually played Painkiller and D3 and this is truly your opinion then I...I just don't know what to say. I may have to save this post and show people 'cause no one would believe me if I told them. >>> >> For me, the "scariness" of the game was a semi-novel idea for a >> while. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > then I...I just don't know what to say. I may have to save this post and > show people 'cause no one would believe me if I told them. hehe, only played the demo of Painkiller but it didn't seem that great to me. Not much different to D3, but I liked the witches flying by, and the stake gun that nailed the zombies to the wall. But still it was hordes of enemies charging toward you with seemingly no strategy. D3 is pretty much as I expected so far, but it is a pity a bit more imagination couldn't have gone into the story development and enemies. Far Cry mixed it up a bit, so you had dark enclosed spaces where things jumped out at you, then you were outside for a bit and thought about a different problem, so you relaxed a bit before going back indoors for the close quarters stuff. >>>> >> For me, the "scariness" of the game was a semi-novel idea for a >>> while. [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > stake gun that nailed the zombies to the wall. But still it was hordes of > enemies charging toward you with seemingly no strategy. Yeah, it's like Serious Sam in that regard. But at least SS was funny. > D3 is pretty much as I expected so far, but it is a pity a bit more > imagination couldn't have gone into the story development and enemies. I think id set out to re-tell the story of the original Doom. > Far Cry mixed it up a bit, so you had dark enclosed spaces where things > jumped out at you, then you were outside for a bit and thought about a > different problem, so you relaxed a bit before going back indoors for the > close quarters stuff. Agree. > I think id set out to re-tell the story of the original Doom. Of course they did. They've been saying that for quite a long time. steve >>> For me, the "scariness" of the game was a semi-novel idea for a while. >>> But after a few hours, it just becomes predictable, boring, and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > pickup" sequence was with the Serious Sam series - in those cases, it was > either somewhat obvious or otherwise considered valid. I thought the whole spawning thing in SS was an homage to Doom series. I find those kinds of games fun for a few levels, but they get tedious after that. I finished 80% of SS, then used a cheat because I just wanted to see what happened at the end and I was quite impressed by the big dude. When I think back the same thing happened when I played Doom (or was it Doom2). I never finished the game because it became tedious, and the same thing is happening with D3. It was very well done and atmospheric to start, but now it's becoming annoying. A one trick pony I'm afraid. You know, I see the secret stashes of armour etc, but I just cant be bothered to find a way to them. Playing on veteran btw. I'll probably finish it, but I find I'm not really looking forward to it. Wierd. Its a game which has been known for over 15 years or something to be exactly and ONLY this: YOU SHOOT THINGS. Now, please demonstrate what you expected it to be. If it AT ALL diverges from the world-wide consensus of sentient lifeforms' idea of what the game should hold, THEN you can whinge. Until then, please PLEASE show an IQ at least equal to that of room temperature in an igloo. > Enjoyed this game but it just didn't make the list of my favorites. > Too much dark dieing. Bugged me that after neutralizing an area [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > could be a IV after this one. Meanwhile, there are new mods in the > other games attracting me. AMF > Wierd. Its a game which has been known for over 15 years or something to be > exactly and ONLY this: YOU SHOOT THINGS. Now, please demonstrate what you > expected it to be. If it AT ALL diverges from the world-wide consensus of > sentient lifeforms' idea of what the game should hold, THEN you can whinge. > Until then, please PLEASE show an IQ at least equal to that of room > temperature in an igloo. If you follow your logic than _ALL_ sequels would be _exactly_ like the original and that's just not the case. Look at Max Payne 2 compared to the original, Q2 and Q3 compared to their original form. The Unreal franchise in yet another example of a title that evolved it's gameplay to new heights. Your argument that a new game produced in 2004 should play like a game that was exciting on 486 class PC's is ludicrous. ... The Unreal franchise in > yet another example of a title that evolved it's gameplay to new heights. Hang on, have you played Unreal2? > ... > > The Unreal franchise in > > yet another example of a title that evolved it's gameplay to new heights. > > Hang on, have you played Unreal2? Yeah but I'm including Unreal Tournament in the equation as well. > ... > > The Unreal franchise in >> yet another example of a title that evolved it's gameplay to new heights. > > Hang on, have you played Unreal2? Maybe that was considerd a lateral evolution ;-) I hear some MP modes are quite good. Please re-read the last line of my post. The FUNDAMENTALS are the same. Did you think I meant they should just churn out games with the same technology as the original Doom well into 2005 and so on? Again, re-read the last line. I'll try to make this real simple: in ALL the Doom games, you SHOOT THINGS. Remarkable eh? The title 'Doom' was made synonomous with SHOOTING THINGS and all titles attached to it thereafter. Yes, technology progresses.. but the core of the game - the soul of the game - the damn point of the game - is to SHOOT THINGS. That is all. Sure, you collect stuff along your way, you open inaccessible corridors to unexplored areas, you switch switches and pull knobs... for what reason? To further your likelyhood of SHOOTING THINGS. My God in heaven. Thats easy to understand. >> Wierd. Its a game which has been known for over 15 years or something to > be [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > that > was exciting on 486 class PC's is ludicrous. > Please re-read the last line of my post. The FUNDAMENTALS are the same. Did > you think I meant they should just churn out games with the same technology [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > knobs... for what reason? To further your likelyhood of SHOOTING THINGS. My > God in heaven. Thats easy to understand. Look, obviously a vast amount of people are simply under-whelmed by the game. Their opinion is no less valid than yours. If you like the game, that's great but you can't "explain" or rationalize away the fact that a lot of people have the same complaints; dark, repetitious, bad AI, non-linear boring game-play. IMHO, this game doesn't come close to Painkiller or Farcry, both of which had enjoyable, engaging game-play. D3 just doesn't get it done. It is what it is, a showcase for the game engine. To be honest, I'm horribly disappointed with D3, as I have been a huge fan of Id Software offerings prior to this title. I am still _stunned_ that they would put out a product like this. BTW, _All_ First Person Shooters involve "SHOOTING THINGS." Do you know any FPS that does not involve "SHOOTING THINGS?" > >> Wierd. Its a game which has been known for over 15 years or something to > > be [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > that > > was exciting on 486 class PC's is ludicrous. > Enjoyed this game but it just didn't make the list of my favorites. > Too much dark dieing. Bugged me that after neutralizing an area > something would always jump out from no where and nail me. pussy Signature-Scott "Spreading a little of my sunshine throughout Usenet hell." >>Enjoyed this game but it just didn't make the list of my favorites. >>Too much dark dieing. Bugged me that after neutralizing an area >>something would always jump out from no where and nail me. > > pussy Doom3 was hatched a number a years ago during a big nostalgia craze for older games. ID threw unique innovative game engine advances at it. You talk about an 8 yr olds vocabulary, how about a 16 yr. olds 2 sylabble one word reply? |
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