Sound doesn't work with Classic Doom

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Dave Rudolf - 23 Jan 2006 16:03 GMT

Hey all,

I'm trying to get the old Doom to work on my new machine, which is a Windows
XP box. If it matters, I have an Sound Blaster Live Value card. I use the
setup program to set the audio options to use a "Sound Blaster". WHen I play
the game, any time a sound effect is played, the game becomes extremely slow.
The midi music seems to work fine (although it slows down with the rest of
the game when a sound is played). The smae thing happens with my old copy of
Heretic.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

Thanks,

Dave

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pop - 23 Jan 2006 17:31 GMT

the original doom.exe will not work with sound with latest version of
windows; you need to get one of the doom drivers ported to windows such as
jdoom, gldoom, zdoom, etc - I use jdoom which has the best graphics and
added model features...

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Chris Odorjan - 23 Jan 2006 20:27 GMT

> Hey all,
>
> I'm trying to get the old Doom to work on my new machine, which is a
> Windows XP box. If it matters, I have an Sound Blaster Live Value card.
>
> Does anyone know how to fix this?

doom2.exe is trying to access your Sound Blaster card's hardware
directly, and XP doesn't like that (neither will 2000 or NT); that's why
there's a pause every time it tries to play a sound.

Since you also have the same problem with Heretic, I'd recommend you try
either ZDoom (http://www.zdoom.org/) or Doomsday
(http://www.doomsdayhq.com/), both of which will play Heretic along with
Doom (not to mention Hexen) on Windows XP.

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Stephen Howe - 24 Jan 2006 00:39 GMT

> I'm trying to get the old Doom to work on my new machine, which is a
> Windows XP box. If it matters, I have an Sound Blaster Live Value card. I
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> with the rest of the game when a sound is played). The smae thing happens
> with my old copy of Heretic.

Can't be done with XP. You are quite lucky that hear anything at all.
It must be that the IRQ chosen for sound by PNP matches the Doom2/Heretic
default.

Stephen Howe

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Ron Gibson - 14 Feb 2006 03:01 GMT

> I'm trying to get the old Doom to work on my new machine, which is a
> Windows XP box. If it matters, I have an Sound Blaster Live Value card. I
> use the setup program to set the audio options to use a "Sound Blaster".
> WHen I play the game, any time a sound effect is played, the game becomes
> extremely slow.

I have some problems running those too with 98SE and a SBlive. I don't
know what happened but they used to work perfectly in the past. I think
it's because of the DirectX updates applied over time. That's my WAG.

But I really haven't spent a lot of time trying to remedy the problem
lately. Seems like last time I twiddled with some settings and got it to
go after a while.

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Dan Morris - 19 Feb 2006 19:13 GMT

I just solved this same problem.
Rather than trying to fix your computer to use the old EXE, you can just
download an updated, open-source engine for DOOM, as long as you have the
wads.

http://www.doomworld.com/classicdoom/ports/index.php?platform=2

I picked up Doomsday from here. Prepare to be amazed at the image and sound
quality, at the new things you can do, and to get hooked all over again! I
am!

Dan

>> I'm trying to get the old Doom to work on my new machine, which is a
>> Windows XP box. If it matters, I have an Sound Blaster Live Value card. I
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> lately. Seems like last time I twiddled with some settings and got it to
> go after a while.

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myk - 22 Feb 2006 11:41 GMT

In the past you also used SB Live, or another older SB? For the DOS
Doom engines in particular the best SBs are the older ISA cards; PCI
SBs tend to have issues or imperfections.

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Ron Gibson - 28 Feb 2006 15:38 GMT

> In the past you also used SB Live, or another older SB? For the DOS Doom
> engines in particular the best SBs are the older ISA cards; PCI SBs tend
> to have issues or imperfections.

Kinda late here as I've been on vacation.

Yep, it's one of the early SBLive PCI (5.1) card.

Early on I just ran it in a full screen DOS session. Then one day I
tried to run it and all was well and then it took a dump.

IIRC, there was a awful noise from the card.

I do have a spare Crystal 4614 PCI sound card I've used in the past that
emulates the classic ISA Sound Blaster. Again IIRC, it worked great.

I actually never used a ISA SB - I used a ISA PAS16 that emulated the SB.

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