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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / Diablo / November 2003Flaming Cow's Maphack
Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? Unlike mousepad's this maphack loads before you login. It's actually a DLL run with d2loader. It works, I made a new account and character to test it out and my virus checker didn't come up with anything. Everyone from mousepad's forums claims it's fine but they might just be in on it, you know? > Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Everyone from mousepad's forums claims it's fine but they might just > be in on it, you know? I really have no idea - but I'd stay well away from such things, just as a general rule .... especially if playing on battle.net I'm thinking the whole maphack detection thing was just a bunch of BS to frighten the impressionable .... but I'm impressionable :P >> Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >I'm thinking the whole maphack detection thing was just a bunch of BS to >frighten the impressionable .... but I'm impressionable :P Well, maphack isn't detectable, using it in certain ways is. For example when you target monsters that would otherwise be invisible/untargetable such as behind walls. Chicken mode (dunno what that is) and when you scroll the map are all aparently detectable. There is alot of good things to say about JHJ/Flamingcow's maphack on mousepad's forums and also battleforums so I'm gonna use it. I'll let you know. I only have one account with a lvl 82 necro being the best character and he only took a week or so to build. No biggie. > >> Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? > >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > you know. I only have one account with a lvl 82 necro being the best > character and he only took a week or so to build. No biggie. I don't know where you buy your manure, but maphack is most certainly detectable in 1.10. Disassemble the code and you will see. In any case, why do you need to cheat at such a simple game? Do you also cheat at Go Fish? Mickey : I don't know where you buy your manure, but maphack is most certainly : detectable in 1.10. Disassemble the code and you will see. In any : case, why do you need to cheat at such a simple game? Do you also : cheat at Go Fish? I probably would if I could remember how to play :) just poking by to say something stupid. : Mickey eneral rule .... especially if playing on battle.net > I'm thinking the whole maphack detection thing was just a bunch of BS to > frighten the impressionable .... but I'm impressionable :P Kinda like Playdo :) > Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? Often a mechanism for malware, and always will get you banned from b-net. > Unlike mousepad's this maphack loads before you login. It's actually a > DLL run with d2loader. It works, I made a new account and character to > test it out and my virus checker didn't come up with anything. > Everyone from mousepad's forums claims it's fine but they might just > be in on it, you know? Nothing "just fine" about cheating in the realms. >> Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Nothing "just fine" about cheating in the realms. I did not ask for your opinion on maphack as a cheat. Thanks for all your valuable help! > I did not ask for your opinion on maphack as a cheat. Thanks for all > your valuable help! Ah, so you think you can control replies to your post? Fascinating. Do you have these delusions often?  SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 >>>Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I did not ask for your opinion on maphack as a cheat. Thanks for all > your valuable help! Considering how badly cheats like maphack have screwed the realms, How could you be so naive as to actually post that here and not expect it. *shakes head* Bring back natural selection is all i am going to say. Angus >>Nothing "just fine" about cheating in the realms. > > I did not ask for your opinion on maphack as a cheat. Thanks for all > your valuable help! If you install it, you're likely to get banned, and you might get some payload you didn't bargain for with it. These, I feel, are a risk that you take for being a cheater. If your ethics aren't bothered by using a cheat when you've agreed not to (you *did* read what you agreed to, did you not?), then obviously some guy on Usenet's opinion isn't going to change your ways. Why are you unable to play the game without cheating? Is there a problem with your system or something? : >>Nothing "just fine" about cheating in the realms. : > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] : Why are you unable to play the game without cheating? Is there a problem : with your system or something? yes if he's like many of us have said the game lacks some options. 1 turning off death animations 2 turning off day night rotation and maybe others > yes if he's like many of us have said the game lacks some options. 1 turning > off death animations 2 turning off day night rotation and maybe others Can't you do some of this with a mod that won't affect the game? I seem to recall a mod that cut out many effects to improve performance way back in the pre-LoD days. SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 > > yes if he's like many of us have said the game lacks some options. 1 turning > > off death animations 2 turning off day night rotation and maybe others > > Can't you do some of this with a mod that won't affect the game? I seem > to recall a mod that cut out many effects to improve performance way > back in the pre-LoD days. D2Accelerator used to do this. Haven't seen a 1.10 version yet. -- Zamboni > > yes if he's like many of us have said the game lacks some options. 1 turning > > off death animations 2 turning off day night rotation and maybe others > > Can't you do some of this with a mod that won't affect the game? I seem > to recall a mod that cut out many effects to improve performance way > back in the pre-LoD days. it's being worked on for 1.10 > > > yes if he's like many of us have said the game lacks some options. 1 > turning [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > it's being worked on for 1.10 Cool. I haven't followed it ever since I rendered it irrelevant for my system. SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 > : Why are you unable to play the game without cheating? Is there a problem > : with your system or something? > > yes if he's like many of us have said the game lacks some options. 1 turning > off death animations 2 turning off day night rotation and maybe others Yeah, they should do something about slot machines too. You can't manually adjust the reels to win prizes, which is one feature I'd really like. Guess I'll just have to cheat. >: Why are you unable to play the game without cheating? Is there a problem >: with your system or something? >: > yes if he's like many of us have said the game lacks some options. 1 turning > off death animations 2 turning off day night rotation and maybe others And this is different than the rest of the people playing on realms how? What justification does this give you to lie and say you won't cheat on the realms, and yet do just that? Open is for people who can't handle the game pure, maybe you could just go there. : >: Why are you unable to play the game without cheating? Is there a problem : >: with your system or something? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : the realms, and yet do just that? Open is for people who can't handle : the game pure, maybe you could just go there. i used it for years. nuff said. > : On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:10:23 -0600, flame_thrower <flamy78x@comcast.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > : > i used it for years. nuff said. Still doesn't answer Dave's question(s). > And this is different than the rest of the people playing on realms how? > What justification does this give you to lie and say you won't cheat on > the realms, and yet do just that? Open is for people who can't handle > the game pure, maybe you could just go there. I don't think turning off the Shenk death animation, ferinstance, is cheating. Lots of people have boxes that can play most of the game just fine but dog down to 1-2fps for that scene. > I don't think turning off the Shenk death animation, ferinstance, is > cheating. Lots of people have boxes that can play most of the game just > fine but dog down to 1-2fps for that scene. Except he also said he uses it to highlight runes and jewels(giving him a better chance at them than other players) and to prevent items like arrows/bolts/thawing pots, etc from showing up, which further makes it easier for him to see items other people can't. I had no problem with him prior to that, as, while I don't use it myself, I have NO problem with someone who just uses it to eliminate the stupid death animations and such. But using it to give yourself a better chance at items than other people, and well, that IS cheating. > animations and such. But using it to give yourself a better chance at items > than other people, and well, that IS cheating. Well, yes, undoubtedly. I missed that part. > > And this is different than the rest of the people playing on realms how? > > What justification does this give you to lie and say you won't cheat on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cheating. Lots of people have boxes that can play most of the game just > fine but dog down to 1-2fps for that scene. Something - like a mod - that changes gameplay to reduce lag, is not a bad thing, I think. Of course, if it does more than that... SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 > > > And this is different than the rest of the people playing on realms how? > > > What justification does this give you to lie and say you won't cheat on [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Something - like a mod - that changes gameplay to reduce lag, is not a > bad thing, I think. Of course, if it does more than that... But the config file could be edited down to the bare minimum: shenk animation: off rain: off show sockets: on drophack protection: on socket protection: on At this point you can't even tell it's on, much less have any measurable advantage over other players. But is it worth losing an account because the BCMs use the same color gray for both socketed items and ethereal items? -- Zamboni > > > > And this is different than the rest of the people playing on realms > how? [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > advantage over other players. But is it worth losing an account because the > BCMs use the same color gray for both socketed items and ethereal items? Well, it would be nice if Diablo 2 had the ability to do this. Unfortunately, since Maphack is more often used for evil... SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 > Why are you unable to play the game without cheating? Is there a problem > with your system or something? I recall a guy on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic who insisted that Warcraft III would only be interesting and challenging for him if he could use a maphack. He seemed quite indignant at the suggestion that this need implied a deficiency in his playing ability. SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 > If you install it, you're likely to get banned, How likely? Yes, I've read Blizzard's warning, and no, I don't use it, but has anyone in this forum had an account banned for using maphack, or know anyone who has? Dave Hinz <davehinz@spamcop.net> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say: >>>Nothing "just fine" about cheating in the realms. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Why are you unable to play the game without cheating? Is there a problem >with your system or something? Dave, I think this is a classic example of PEBCAK. Xocyll SignatureI don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably, Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr >>Nothing "just fine" about cheating in the realms. > > I did not ask for your opinion on maphack as a cheat. Thanks for all > your valuable help! We didn't ask for your original post either. One does not need permission to post something on usenet. Also, David's right, you shouldn't cheat. And you really really shouldn't complain when someone points out you're cheating. It's your choice, but if you don't want others to comment on it you shouldn't talk about it. :-) >>>Nothing "just fine" about cheating in the realms. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >points out you're cheating. It's your choice, but if you don't want >others to comment on it you shouldn't talk about it. :-) Do you all think I'm suddenly going to come around to the fact that maphack is cheating and cheating is bad simply because *you* pointed it out? I've heard all the arguments before and no one will be able to convince anyone else that their opinion of maphack is the correct one. Lets agree to disagree. > Do you all think I'm suddenly going to come around to the fact that > maphack is cheating and cheating is bad simply because *you* pointed > it out? I've heard all the arguments before and no one will be able to > convince anyone else that their opinion of maphack is the correct one. > > Lets agree to disagree. You have the right to your opinion, but Blizzard's opinion is that if you use it, they will eliminate your account and ban your CD key, which I think is a good opinion. Using MH is discourteous to other players. Maybe there should be a "MH only" realm so you can play your game and we can play ours. > Maybe there should be a "MH only" realm so you can play your game and we can > play ours. Yeah - it's called "open". > Maybe there should be a "MH only" realm so you can play your game and we can > play ours. But wait...there is...open. Of course, lots of people who play open are more conscientious about avoiding cheats and dupes than many players on the Realms. Ironic, I think. SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 > >>>Nothing "just fine" about cheating in the realms. > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Lets agree to disagree. Wouldn't you just LOVE that. Let's not. You are a cheater, and you can wrap that fish in as much sh.t as you want, it will still stink like a fish. If the intent of the game was that you know where everything is, Blizzard would have coded it as such. If you are using a 3rd party program to gain an advantage you wouldn't otherwise have, you are...... CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING CHEATING Sink in yet? Mickey : Wouldn't you just LOVE that. Let's not. You are a cheater, and you can : wrap that fish in as much sh.t as you want, it will still stink like a : fish. If the intent of the game was that you know where everything is, : Blizzard would have coded it as such. If you are using a 3rd party : program to gain an advantage you wouldn't otherwise have, you : are...... ah but to mousepad its 2nd party and your colorizer do hickey ma bobber is 2nd party also which they don't say you can't use. Of course I could be having more of my senior moments but if one writes some code and doesn't share it then its not against any of that stuff you agreed to correct? > : Wouldn't you just LOVE that. Let's not. You are a cheater, and you can > : wrap that fish in as much sh.t as you want, it will still stink like a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > having more of my senior moments but if one writes some code and doesn't > share it then its not against any of that stuff you agreed to correct? Well it seems that the rules are not the same for everyone and you made a so good point that I am as surprise of your reply about Mickey's post as I am about him not replying to yours. I have used MH in 1.09 and I do not in 1.10. When I will have done all the quests so many times, may be next year I will use it again but I will never pay for it and it has nothing to do with financial issue. I think that MH now costs money so there is nothing wrong to steal a hacker. VD > > : Wouldn't you just LOVE that. Let's not. You are a cheater, and you can > > : wrap that fish in as much sh.t as you want, it will still stink like a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > VD NVM about what I wrote. I should have read the rest of the thread but it is the first time I read something that Flame wrote which was not compliant about Mickey's rules. VD : NVM about what I wrote. I should have read the rest of the thread but it is : the first time I read something that Flame wrote which was not compliant : about Mickey's rules. : : VD cause blizzard always says "3rd party software". Now I'm not an authority on these issues but I'm of the thinking 2nd party would be created by the user and therefore not against the EULA or TOS. > : NVM about what I wrote. I should have read the rest of the thread but it > is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > these issues but I'm of the thinking 2nd party would be created by the user > and therefore not against the EULA or TOS. Come on.... You are not the flame_thrower that I know.!!!!!! Your reply is so weird that you sound like Max Terry and if I lack in writing English I do understand it very well. Your reply is so surprising to justify the use of a 2nd party software that you do not use? Ok let's get the things straight. Mickey once posted he was a genius but he made so many mistakes posting under the name of Max Terry but I see "right now" the "same mistakes". I see a "flame" who is not able to play his role properly. You wrote; "Now I'm not an authority on these issues" You were never ever so kind before and you are talking exactky like Max Terry. I will try to traceroute your IP later and your reply on this post will be your deed! ;oP Or you are Mickey, or you are a very close friend but "the general feeling" is there. Is it Palajin who said Mickey had a thirth identity? Your reply is so weird and protective about him and I thought you would flame me.???? "flame" is a nasty warrior but so kind now and trying to justify gently Mickey's use of a second party software? He sounds exactly like Max Terry! Mickey often do this kind of mistake and you sound just like him. You could be Mickey or a good friend of him but still I could be wrong. Anybody noticed how protective he is and in the same style of Max? If you are "flame" you will reply! ;oP VD "Virtual Den" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:U7Txb.23716 stop rambling. you are making a fool of yourself luckily i remembered i was involved in a thread. i've been marking all as read every few days and was about to now. I am who I say I am. flame is not supposed to imply agression. it refers to FIRE. You know the backpack with fuel in it and the little torch that when you pull the trigger it shoots a nice fireball at somebody. But that's neither here nor there as that's not where my ident. comes from. > "Virtual Den" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:U7Txb.23716 > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > torch that when you pull the trigger it shoots a nice fireball at somebody. > But that's neither here nor there as that's not where my ident. comes from. I just found weird the second and thirth party software argumentation. Anyway I believe you. VD >Wouldn't you just LOVE that. Let's not. You are a cheater, and you can >wrap that fish in as much sh.t as you want, it will still stink like a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Mickey Wow mickey, you've made me see the light! How can I ever be forgiven for my sins?! > > >>>Nothing "just fine" about cheating in the realms. > > >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Mickey Pot calling the kettle black? Weren't you caught cheating? Fito >>>>>Nothing "just fine" about cheating in the realms. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Mickey lets just wait for his cd key to be banned :) ommmmmmmmmmm > Do you all think I'm suddenly going to come around to the fact that > maphack is cheating and cheating is bad simply because *you* pointed > it out? I've heard all the arguments before and no one will be able to > convince anyone else that their opinion of maphack is the correct one. > > Lets agree to disagree. Let's agree that you're a cheating scum, and that cheating scum are (...again...still...) wrecking the realms. Let's further agree that from this point on, when it becomes clear that someone in a realms game is cheating, I'm going to haul out a high-level character and PK the bastard. Never done it before, but your attitude is so _inspiring_ I think I'll give it a shot. So...what realm do you cheat on, Jordan? >> Do you all think I'm suddenly going to come around to the fact that >> maphack is cheating and cheating is bad simply because *you* pointed [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Never done it before, but your attitude is so _inspiring_ I think I'll >give it a shot. So...what realm do you cheat on, Jordan? Us West ladder, I welcome a challenge: *GulfstreamX > Let's agree that you're a cheating scum, and that cheating scum are > (...again...still...) wrecking the realms. Let's further agree that > from this point on, when it becomes clear that someone in a realms game is > cheating, I'm going to haul out a high-level character and PK the bastard. > Never done it before, but your attitude is so _inspiring_ I think I'll > give it a shot. So...what realm do you cheat on, Jordan? Help me understand the purpose of attacking Jordan the way you did. He didnt initiate a discussion on the merits of MH. What he did do is ask a question related to its detection. It seems that most who gang up on MH users need to ride their high horse for the day. I am not saying you do but that if MH is even mentioned the anti-cheat police form a posse and take all types of pot shots. Jordan asked for some advice on MH. You called him a cheating scum. A bit overhanded I think. What is your motivation? Do you not ever cheat? Do you never lie? Have you never stolen? If you havent then I would love to be chastised and corrected by the likes of people such as you. Until then, relax and re-evaluate the situation. Fito >> Let's agree that you're a cheating scum, and that cheating scum are >> (...again...still...) wrecking the realms. Let's further agree that [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Fito Thanks for the support. It's really no big deal to me tho. If some guy on a newsgroup wants to get all worked up over what I do in a game then it's his problem. I think this is all pretty funny actually. >> Let's agree that you're a cheating scum, and that cheating scum are >> (...again...still...) wrecking the realms. > > Help me understand the purpose of attacking Jordan the way you did. Sure, let's go. > He didnt > initiate a discussion on the merits of MH. What he did do is ask a question > related to its detection. Which I answered. > It seems that most who gang up on MH users need to > ride their high horse for the day. I am not saying you do but that if MH is > even mentioned the anti-cheat police form a posse and take all types of pot > shots. So, we should welcome people who are f.cking up the realms? How does *that* logic work? > Jordan asked for some advice on MH. You called him a cheating scum. A bit > overhanded I think. What is your motivation? Do you not ever cheat? On realms? What would be the point? At cards? Could be dangerous. At solitaire? What's the point? > Do you > never lie? Have you never stolen? If you havent then I would love to be > chastised and corrected by the likes of people such as you. Until then, > relax and re-evaluate the situation. Sure, I'm plenty relaxed about it. Cheaters have no place on the realms, and I'm amused whenever someone comes here whining that they downloaded some cheat program and got their account stolen or terminated. Further, I will not just idly sit by and accept someone who is admitting that they're part of the problem with cheating on the realms. If this upsets you, perhaps you should look at why that is. Guilty feelings or something? Dave Hinz > > > If this upsets you, perhaps you should look at why that is. Guilty > feelings or something? > > Dave Hinz Let me apologize to you for jumping down your back. I dont think you deserved it actually. The auto-response that even the word maphack illicits for one reason or another baffles me. We, as regulars in a forum, cant have appropriate and reasonable discussion about it. A shame it is. I will tell you why. Instead of condeming MH'ers, I think lively and spirited debate - with respect for each other - would be healthy for the group. I could go on and on but I think I have made my point. Either way, my apologies. Fito >> If this upsets you, perhaps you should look at why that is. Guilty >> feelings or something? > > Let me apologize to you for jumping down your back. I dont think you > deserved it actually. I was kind of puzzled at your reaction, hadn't expected my message to be perceived the way it was (by other than the target of the comments, anyway...). >I think lively and spirited debate - >with respect for each other - would be healthy for the group. f.ck the cheaters. By cheating, they're showing they have no respect for us, why should we have respect for those scumbags? SignatureDark Tyger, keeper of the Nerf Railgun(tm) All hail the Thief.... > > Do you all think I'm suddenly going to come around to the fact that > > maphack is cheating and cheating is bad simply because *you* pointed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Let's agree that you're a cheating scum, >. So...what realm do you cheat on, Jordan? Oops I thought you were talking about Mickey! ;oP Why are you so nasty to him and not with the other who is a lot worse and all the proof are on Google? You are quite limited about who is right or wrong. You want to do the police, do it for everyone or shut up. VD > Do you all think I'm suddenly going to come around to the fact that > maphack is cheating and cheating is bad simply because *you* pointed > it out? I've heard all the arguments before and no one will be able to > convince anyone else that their opinion of maphack is the correct one. Of course not. This simply means, however, that you are dense. We all realize that you're dense. That you've heard the arguments, but are far too self-absorbed to admit that they could possibly apply to you. > Lets agree to disagree. What mighty philosopher said "not only no, but hell no?" Was it John Wayne? Anyway... Here's hoping you get banned soon. SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 >> Do you all think I'm suddenly going to come around to the fact that >> maphack is cheating and cheating is bad simply because *you* pointed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >realize that you're dense. That you've heard the arguments, but are far >too self-absorbed to admit that they could possibly apply to you. No, it just means I don't really care what you think, rightly I'd expect you all to feel the same way but you all have so many feelings for my well being, I'm touched. Cheers! > No, it just means I don't really care what you think, rightly I'd > expect you all to feel the same way but you all have so many feelings > for my well being, I'm touched. If that were true, you probably wouldn't care enough to try to convince us otherwise. That is, not caring means apathy, and you're definitely showing that. SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 > >> Do you all think I'm suddenly going to come around to the fact that > >> maphack is cheating and cheating is bad simply because *you* pointed [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > expect you all to feel the same way but you all have so many feelings > for my well being, I'm touched. Perhaps someone will be so concerned about your best interests that they will send a URL of this thread on Google to Blizzard along with your account information and assist you in finding the straight and narrow road? <No, it will not be me but keep up the smart a.s replies to people and you may find someone who is pissed off enough to turn you in, particularly since you've conveniently offered your account details here. A man doesn't cheat on his tax returns and then brag about it in the IRS office and expect not to get caught.> To be serious now, anyone who asks about how a cheat is detected is opening the door on this discussion. It's naive to believe one can post on a newsgroup about using a cheat and expect that a discussion will not ensue about the ethics of using a cheat. That's the nature of all usenet and how most discussions are perpetuated. A topic is raised and many tangential discussions arise. You can't get your questions answered without the risk of side issues and topics coming along with it and when it comes to cheating, there will naturally be a discussion about the morality of it. Shari (Orchid) >Perhaps someone will be so concerned about your best interests that they >will send a URL of this thread on Google to Blizzard along with your [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Shari (Orchid) Given the general attitude around here I don't think I would have to have said anything beyond the original question for someone to report me. Those folks who have and will report me I'm sure feel much better about themselves for doing whats right, or something, and it was the highlight of their day. I'm still really not all that concerned. If something should happen to my accounts (god forbid) it will still be just a game, no big deal. You will all feel better about the world because I will not be "cheating" in my private MF games anymore and that will be the end of it. I figured the ethics of cheat thing has been discussed so many times before, why bother to bring it up. See post about nothing anyone says making the least bit of difference. Arguing on the net is pretty stupid so why not have fun with it. >Perhaps someone will be so concerned about your best interests that they >will send a URL of this thread on Google to Blizzard along with your [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Shari (Orchid) Oh also, I wouldn't have even posted at all if it were not for the other maphack thread 3 posts before mine in which no one started the cheating rant, so I figured maphack posts were free from the flames now. Boy was I ever wrong! > Perhaps someone will be so concerned about your best interests that they > will send a URL of this thread on Google to Blizzard along with your [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > here. A man doesn't cheat on his tax returns and then brag about it in > the IRS office and expect not to get caught.> Reminds me of kindergarten. I jaywalk. My front yard has leaves strewn about which I should have amassed weeks ago. My dog poops on other peoples lawn. I even eat grapes at the supermarket while shopping. I am so glad I dont have neighbors that think like you or else I would be in a heap load of trouble. Need a stool to get off your clydesdale, maam? > To be serious now, anyone who asks about how a cheat is detected is > opening the door on this discussion. It's naive to believe one can post [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and topics coming along with it and when it comes to cheating, there > will naturally be a discussion about the morality of it. Agreed. To a certain extent. Morality? Did he now commit a sin? You couldnt have meant that. > Shari (Orchid) >> Perhaps someone will be so concerned about your best interests that they >> will send a URL of this thread on Google to Blizzard along with your [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >have neighbors that think like you or else I would be in a heap load of >trouble. Need a stool to get off your clydesdale, maam? Society is brought up now with the tell on each other mentality, not much you can do about it. >Agreed. To a certain extent. Morality? Did he now commit a sin? You couldnt >have meant that. Not a sin, but it's the principle of the situation! That's what everyone says anyway. Blah. > Reminds me of kindergarten. I jaywalk. My front yard has leaves strewn about > which I should have amassed weeks ago. My dog poops on other peoples lawn. > I even eat grapes at the supermarket while shopping. I am so glad I dont > have neighbors that think like you or else I would be in a heap load of > trouble. Need a stool to get off your clydesdale, maam? You seem to be confused. Orchid's not on a high horse. Now Jordan? Jordan is. And so are you, apparently. > > You can't get your questions answered without the risk of side issues > > and topics coming along with it and when it comes to cheating, there > > will naturally be a discussion about the morality of it. > > Agreed. To a certain extent. Morality? Did he now commit a sin? You couldnt > have meant that. Now you're just arguing semantics. SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 >> Reminds me of kindergarten. I jaywalk. My front yard has leaves strewn about >> which I should have amassed weeks ago. My dog poops on other peoples lawn. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >You seem to be confused. Orchid's not on a high horse. Now Jordan? >Jordan is. And so are you, apparently. Sorry I am not the one preaching here about my beliefs. Quite the opposite. > >Fito wrote: > > Reminds me of kindergarten. I jaywalk. My front yard has > >leaves strewn about > which I should have amassed weeks ago. My dog [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Sorry I am not the one preaching here about my beliefs. Quite the > opposite. No, you're the one who is having issues reconciling your actions with your conscience and taking it out on everyone in the group. Otherwise, you wouldn't care what anyone else thought and wouldn't be going to such great pains to be hostile and defensive, even toward people who aren't attacking you. Shari (Orchid) > No, you're the one who is having issues reconciling your actions with > your conscience and taking it out on everyone in the group. Otherwise, > you wouldn't care what anyone else thought and wouldn't be going to such > great pains to be hostile and defensive, even toward people who aren't > attacking you. I don't *think* I was attacking him, although I realize I did say a couple of provocative things. I admit that maphackage bothers me more than it probably should. SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 > Sorry I am not the one preaching here about my beliefs. Quite the > opposite. My apologies. You seemed to communicate that you felt your position was unassailable. If you meant something else, great. SignatureElizabeth D. Brooks | kali.magdalene@comcast.net | US2002021724 Listowner: Aberrants_Worldwide, Fading_Suns_Games, TrinityRPG AeonAdventure | "Dobby likes us!" -- Smeagol -- http://www.theonering.net/scrapbook/view/6856 > > Perhaps someone will be so concerned about your best interests that they > > will send a URL of this thread on Google to Blizzard along with your [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Reminds me of kindergarten. How so? > I jaywalk. My front yard has leaves strewn about > which I should have amassed weeks ago. My dog poops on other peoples lawn. > I even eat grapes at the supermarket while shopping. I am so glad I dont > have neighbors that think like you or else I would be in a heap load of > trouble. Need a stool to get off your clydesdale, maam? And I'm so glad I don't have neighbors like you who have such a huge chip on their shoulder that they're just so anxiously waiting for someone to try and knock off that they start to imagine people are saying and thinking things they are not. Isn't this a little over the top considering that *I* didn't say I was going to turn him in (nor did I condemn him in any way)? If anything, I was trying to warn him of a possibility that could hurt him but you've read something else into it altogether. Need a kleenex for that snotty attitude, sir? > > To be serious now, anyone who asks about how a cheat is detected is > > opening the door on this discussion. It's naive to believe one can post [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Agreed. To a certain extent. Morality? Did he now commit a sin? You couldnt > have meant that. Morality isn't about "sins". It's about ethics and how people regard one another. Just for the record, I don't believe in the concept of sin because I don't believe in heaven or hell and subscribe to no religion. However, I realize that you don't care what I really believe because you're looking for any post you can to take potshots at people and be hostile toward. Shari (Orchid) > And I'm so glad I don't have neighbors like you who have such a huge > chip on their shoulder that they're just so anxiously waiting for [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Need a kleenex for that snotty attitude, sir? Please tell me where I said you were going to turn him in. I think you are a bit confused here. Jordan uses MH. He was attacked for asking a question. I have a snotty attitude? Does that make sense? > However, I realize that you don't care what I really believe because > you're looking for any post you can to take potshots at people and be > hostile toward. If you look at my history on this forum I have usually been quite friendly to most. Taking potshots isnt my thing as I like to keep my mouth shut even when angriest. I could say the same about your response to Jordan. Fito > > However, I realize that you don't care what I really believe because > > you're looking for any post you can to take potshots at people and be [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to most. Taking potshots isnt my thing as I like to keep my mouth shut even > when angriest. I could say the same about your response to Jordan. If you saw hostility or a potshot in my response to Jordan, it was purely your imagination whereas you were the one lobbing accusations of being on a high horse in a hostile fashion (I didn't have to conjure that up on my own). At any rate, I've seen your posts on both AGD and AGD2 and I wouldn't say that you are usually "quite friendly," particularly when you start arguing about some issues. Shari (Orchid) > > >> Do you all think I'm suddenly going to come around to the fact that > > >> maphack is cheating and cheating is bad simply because *you* pointed [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > account information and assist you in finding the straight and narrow > road? Orchid you write amazinly well I must admit it. I do not know if the guy posted his account information but it is a hypocritycal way to say to other people to report him.. Stop skating and tell him he is a little scum bastard cheater (I was myself in 1.09 OMG) but do not suggest other people to do the dirty job for you. You write very well to pass a message, HYPOCRIT. What about your dear friend Mickey? Jordan is an amator about cheating. I have nothing against people who will attack someone using a cheat but Orchid, you should not be so selectived. PS; A supporter is not better than the person being supported. VD > > > >> Do you all think I'm suddenly going to come around to the fact that > > > >> maphack is cheating and cheating is bad simply because *you* pointed [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > PS; A supporter is not better than the person being supported. Isn't it nice when Venerial Disease makes such an a.s of himself. Now, had he 1/4 of one gray cell that actually worked, he'd know just HOW idiotic it is to accuse someone who plays on OS/2 of using maphack. He doesn't, and so we are treated to another dose of his stupidity. Mickey > Isn't it nice when Venerial Disease makes such an a.s of himself. Now, > had he 1/4 of one gray cell that actually worked, he'd know just HOW > idiotic it is to accuse someone who plays on OS/2 of using maphack. He > doesn't, and so we are treated to another dose of his stupidity. Well, actually, he didn't say you used MH, just that you cheated. > Mickey > Isn't it nice when Venerial Disease makes such an a.s of himself. Now, > had he 1/4 of one gray cell that actually worked, he'd know just HOW > idiotic it is to accuse someone who plays on OS/2 of using maphack. He > doesn't, and so we are treated to another dose of his stupidity. > > Mickey Sorry but I did not accuse anyone of using MH. As for the gray cells, it seems that the weeds destroy them. ;oP VD > > Isn't it nice when Venerial Disease makes such an a.s of himself. Now, > > had he 1/4 of one gray cell that actually worked, he'd know just HOW [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > VD sh.t! You know I don't like it when you do this, but that was damn funny. short > > > Isn't it nice when Venerial Disease makes such an a.s of himself. Now, > > > had he 1/4 of one gray cell that actually worked, he'd know just HOW [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > short ;oP VD >Do you all think I'm suddenly going to come around to the fact that >maphack is cheating and cheating is bad simply because *you* pointed >it out? I've heard all the arguments before and no one will be able to >convince anyone else that their opinion of maphack is the correct one. Whether or not maphack is cheating isn't an opinion. It's a FACT. A cheat is anything that gives you an advantage (No matter how minor) in the game that is not available through normal gameplay and given to you by the designers. Also, if the designers say it's a cheat, it's a cheat. Period. They're the ones who decide the rules for the game, nobody else. Violate those rules, and you're cheating. No opinion about it, simple fact. SignatureDark Tyger, keeper of the Nerf Railgun(tm) All hail the Thief.... > >> Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I did not ask for your opinion on maphack as a cheat. Thanks for all > your valuable help! Tough sh.t, Sherlock. You are a cheater, and whether you like hearing it or not doesn't alter that fact an iota. Learn to play a simple game legit. Mickey >>> Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >I did not ask for your opinion on maphack as a cheat. You didn't ask for my opinion, either, but here it is: If you install any D2 cheat whatsoever, your CD key should be permanently banned, and your computer should be covertly taken over by a stranger and bent to his purposes. -- Roy L > >> Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I did not ask for your opinion on maphack as a cheat. Thanks for all > your valuable help! Any topic that gets mentioned in any newsgroup is fair game for people to add opinions to, requested or not. That's the nature of the beast. I take it from your post that you intend to start using maphack if you decide that this is a virus-free version? Shari (Orchid) : Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? : [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : Everyone from mousepad's forums claims it's fine but they might just : be in on it, you know? i am not knowing but if you are referring to the guy on blizzhackers i saw his post but the trust resides in mousey. wouldn't want to load something before the game. gotta worry about cd key farming. >Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Everyone from mousepad's forums claims it's fine but they might just >be in on it, you know? See, I loved maphack for my modding work. I never did anything serious, just little changes to skills/monsters/items. It was nice to do a test of an area without running around trying to find everything. HOWEVER, using it on the realms is something that REALLY annoys me. I'm ashamed to admit that I used to use it. :S I believe that maphack can give someone a very unfair advantage over someone else. There are those who say they use it only because it cuts down on graphical lag, and to them, I say you lie. Think of D2Accelerator. It works WAY better than maphack ever did for cutting down lag. If I remember correctly, the creators are currently working on a version for 1.10. >>Anyone know if this maphack is virus free? What about detection? >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >remember correctly, the creators are currently working on a version >for 1.10. If you could package that with the gem/rune highlighting and hiding arrows/bolts thawing/throwing pots etc etc I'd switch with no probs. >>There are those who say they use it only because it cuts down on >>graphical lag, and to them, I say you lie. Think of D2Accelerator. It [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > If you could package that with the gem/rune highlighting and hiding > arrows/bolts thawing/throwing pots etc etc I'd switch with no probs. Ah, just getting rid of some lag isn't enough for you. You want to cheat, for freem without risk of catching a virus. Personally, I hope Flaming Cow's MH contains some sneaky trojan or something which allows him to hack the accounts of everyone who used it. That'd be a lot more efficient then waiting for Blizzard to ban all MH-related CD-keys. > There are those who say they use it only because it cuts down on > graphical lag, and to them, I say you lie. Think of D2Accelerator. It > works WAY better than maphack ever did for cutting down lag. If I > remember correctly, the creators are currently working on a version > for 1.10. Tell them to hurry. All I want is something to turn off the damn rain. And show sockets...<ducks and runs> -- Zamboni >> There are those who say they use it only because it cuts down on >> graphical lag, and to them, I say you lie. Think of D2Accelerator. It [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >And show sockets...<ducks and runs> In Options, click on video, and turn your lighting quality to low. That gets rid of rain/snow. |
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