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blooper01 - 24 Jun 2006 07:20 GMT
What the hell happened to the mules? I went on tonight to add some items
and get a few things for a new charactor and all the mules are empty.
Did someone need items that bad? Just 2 days ago the mules were all full
and now they are barren waist land of empty despare. What's up with
that?

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~mosfet~ - 24 Jun 2006 12:44 GMT
> What the hell happened to the mules? I went on tonight to add some
> items and get a few things for a new charactor and all the mules are
> empty. Did someone need items that bad? Just 2 days ago the mules
> were all full and now they are barren waist land of empty despare.
> What's up with that?

Are you talking about the AGD mules? That will really suck if you are. There
have been a lot of people around AGD games for a while now who are
essentially unknown and I've refused to give the mule acct//pass a couple of
times. I hope someone didn't excercise poor judgement. we've had those mules
for years with the same password with never a problem. It used to be that
you pretty much had to have been around for at least a year and well known
by around three or more people to get the pass.

I see that the games are full of unknowns these days. That KoQ-Psycho person
was in AGD with a hammerdin, (level 82~ish?) complaining how hard it was to
level. I had Uzzi in there so offered to do a couple minion runs. I didn't
realise it was a person about whom I'd heard bad things until they joined
the game I made and I saw the account name. However, I'd said I'd do a
couple runs and I'm a man of my word so I did. They spent the whole time
begging for a VEX, or anything that I didn't want. In the end I only did two
runs and quit. A bloody PITA.

Tell me I'm wrong, that the mules are fine. sh.t, I'll have a look myself.

Yep, the agdpub account seems to have been looted. I've taken it upon myself
to change the pass on the other accounts as they still have some stuff.
Contact me for details. I've changed the pass on the agdpub too.

Bugger!!!!!
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Shaun.

~mosfet~ - 24 Jun 2006 13:02 GMT
>> What the hell happened to the mules? I went on tonight to add some
>> items and get a few things for a new charactor and all the mules are
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> agdpub too.
> Bugger!!!!!

There only seems to be a bit of stuff left on accts 2 and 5. The few mules I
checked on the other accounts were completely empty. Damn!! I even created
some of those myself and stocked them.

Regs contact me for new pass, it looks like we have some stocking up to do
and also some detective-work. It's no good handing out the new pass if the
same <expletive deleted> is going to loot them again.

I can be reached at misfitnz with a gmail acct. I'm going to be really
cautious about who gets it so don't even bother asking unless you've been
around 18 months and/or already had the pass. We need some MF volunteers to
fill them again.

It seems that it's obviously been too easy to get the pass. sh.t, I was
playing in AGD games for a year before I even knew there *were* shared
mules, then I got the pass in another 6 months or so. It used to be standard
to ask at least two other regs before giving it out and then to err on the
side of caution.

Oh, BTW, ~misfit~ has become ~mosfet~ as a sign of changing times and a
fresh install of XP today. (Man, that was/is a major!) I may have missed
some posts from the last 12 hours or so so don't be upset if you spoke to me
and I haven't replied to you. I probably missed it. ;-)
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Shaun.

Ashen Shugar - 25 Jun 2006 00:45 GMT
I think it was "~mosfet~" <misfitnz61@yahoop.co.nz> that wrote
something like...

>> Yep, the agdpub account seems to have been looted. I've taken it upon
>> myself to change the pass on the other accounts as they still have
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>checked on the other accounts were completely empty. Damn!! I even created
>some of those myself and stocked them.

Well, I dunno how much of the stuff of my mules you've used already,
but there's always what's left there to help build up the AGD stock.

Ashen Shugar
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~mosfet~ - 25 Jun 2006 03:57 GMT
> I think it was "~mosfet~" <misfitnz61@yahoop.co.nz> that wrote
> something like...
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Well, I dunno how much of the stuff of my mules you've used already,
> but there's always what's left there to help build up the AGD stock.

Aye, I've transfered some already. Will sort out the rest after the weekend.
I've been using your old mules a bit myself. Might be time to rationalise
the system, move everything off, either onto the pubs or onto mine. Will do
it later this week.

Cheers,
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Shaun.

EvilBill - 24 Jun 2006 15:26 GMT
> Yep, the agdpub account seems to have been looted. I've taken it upon
> myself to change the pass on the other accounts as they still have some
> stuff. Contact me for details. I've changed the pass on the agdpub too.
>
> Bugger!!!!!

Oh, man, that bites. :(
I'm sure I can loot my own mules for some low to mid-end stuff to go on the
public mules - it's nothing spectacular (mostly normal uniques and set
items) but it's better than nothing.

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Voinin - 24 Jun 2006 16:42 GMT
On 6/24/2006 7:26 AM, EvilBill went clickity-clack on the keyboard and
produced this interesting bit of text:
>> Yep, the agdpub account seems to have been looted. I've taken it upon
>> myself to change the pass on the other accounts as they still have some
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> public mules - it's nothing spectacular (mostly normal uniques and set
> items) but it's better than nothing.

Another "me too" for this one.  I don't have a lot of fancy stuff, but
what I do have I'll happily donate.

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hoardcontrol-news@yahoo.com - 25 Jun 2006 09:00 GMT
>> Yep, the agdpub account seems to have been looted. I've taken it upon
>> myself to change the pass on the other accounts as they still have some
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> public mules - it's nothing spectacular (mostly normal uniques and set
> items) but it's better than nothing.

Darn it, and I know for a fact someone had just donated a Lightsabre to
the pub mules.  :(

Let me know what the needs are, and I can keep an eye out for
appropriate goodies.

Majorly bummed,
Annie
hoardcontrol-news@yahoo.com - 25 Jun 2006 09:48 GMT
>> Yep, the agdpub account seems to have been looted. I've taken it upon
>> myself to change the pass on the other accounts as they still have some
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> public mules - it's nothing spectacular (mostly normal uniques and set
> items) but it's better than nothing.

Darn it, and I know for a fact someone had just donated a Lightsabre to
the pub mules.  :(

Let me know what the needs are, and I can keep an eye out for
appropriate goodies.

Majorly bummed,
Anne
EvilBill - 25 Jun 2006 13:32 GMT
> Darn it, and I know for a fact someone had just donated a Lightsabre to
> the pub mules.  :(
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Majorly bummed,
> Anne

It does suck :( I've added some more stuff today - a Kuko, some low-end set
gear, rary ammys and so forth - it's not wonderful, but it is a start.

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~mosfet~ - 26 Jun 2006 01:23 GMT
>>> Yep, the agdpub account seems to have been looted. I've taken it
>>> upon myself to change the pass on the other accounts as they still
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Darn it, and I know for a fact someone had just donated a Lightsabre
> to the pub mules.  :(

Well, luckilly I think that whomever donated that did so after the mules
were raped as it's still there. It helps us put a time-frame on when they
were stripped. It was on a mule all by itself so I'd say they were stripped
before it was added.

Any idea when it was donated? I don't know if we want to be bothered trying
to find out who did this. I assume it's someone who recently got given the
pasword but assumptions can be wrong. It could be someone who's had it for
ages but recently had a personallity change. The problem with *not* finding
out is the same preson might get the new pass and do the same. If anyone has
an idea who it may have been (maybe they've given out the password recently,
like in the last couple weeks) could they please let me know? It'll be kept
private, between us, and no blame will be assigned. It's just to solve a
mystery and to make sure that the person who stripped them gets a visit from
the boys with the sledgehammers... Ummm, I mean, doesn't get the PW again.
Let's face it, they've robbed everyone who ever donated to the mules. For
instance, if I did MF runs for 4 hours one day and then put the proceeds on
the mules and my times is worth (example) $15/hour the bastard stole the
equivalent of $60 from me/us.

I'd rather this didn't happen again.
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Shaun.

hoardcontrol-news@yahoo.com - 26 Jun 2006 08:04 GMT
<snip>
> Well, luckilly I think that whomever donated that did so after the mules
> were raped as it's still there. It helps us put a time-frame on when they
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> I'd rather this didn't happen again.

That is _very_ odd... there were several items on the mules when it was
donated... as I had to search for a mule with sufficient space to put it on.

This happened earlier this week... I'm very unsure as to the exact date,
they're all been running together this week.  I'm thinking Thursday or
Friday afternoon (PST).  I know that the person who donated it is a long
time player in AGD, but I'm the one that actually put it on the mule.

Confuzzled,
Anne
~mosfet~ - 26 Jun 2006 11:14 GMT
> <snip>
>> Well, luckilly I think that whomever donated that did so after the
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> actually put it on the mule.
> Confuzzled,

Confuzzled indeed. I wonder if this is in fact a BCM problem? I doubt it but
you never know.
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Shaun.

EvilBill - 26 Jun 2006 14:46 GMT
>> That is _very_ odd... there were several items on the mules when it
>> was donated... as I had to search for a mule with sufficient space to
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Confuzzled indeed. I wonder if this is in fact a BCM problem? I doubt it
> but you never know.

I know the lag has been an absolute nightmare of late. I've seen symptoms of
lag that I didn't even know where possible (quite aside from the usual
running-on-the-spot, blackwall, desync and so forth).

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blooper01 - 24 Jun 2006 19:08 GMT
Hey shaun, this is Pat. Could you send me the new account info? I can't
figure out the gmail thing to send you a message. You can send me the
info to my email account blooper01@hotmail.com . Thanks, you know I
have been around for a long time. I have put plenty of items in the
mules myself and this situation really upsets me.

> > What the hell happened to the mules? I went on tonight to add some
> > items and get a few things for a new charactor and all the mules are
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Bugger!!!!!
~mosfet~ - 25 Jun 2006 04:12 GMT
> Hey shaun, this is Pat. Could you send me the new account info? I
> can't figure out the gmail thing to send you a message. You can send
> me the info to my email account blooper01@hotmail.com . Thanks, you
> know I have been around for a long time. I have put plenty of items
> in the mules myself and this situation really upsets me.

Email sent.
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Shaun.

Jewelz - 24 Jun 2006 22:42 GMT
>> What the hell happened to the mules? I went on tonight to add some
>> items and get a few things for a new charactor and all the mules are
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Bugger!!!!!

just curious, what is an AGD game? I'm not asking to be let in, I've just
never heard of public mules and the such.

Jewelz
--who fully admits that curiousity killed the cat, but it hasn't gotten me
yet :-)~
Mickey - 24 Jun 2006 23:51 GMT
>>> What the hell happened to the mules? I went on tonight to add some
>>> items and get a few things for a new charactor and all the mules are
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> --who fully admits that curiousity killed the cat, but it hasn't gotten me
> yet :-)~

On USWest, we have a rather large community. We have AGD games for normal,
NM and hell mode, as well as AGDUT games for Uber Tristram. We also have
public mules which are used to store extra items for those who may need them
at a later date.

Mickey
~mosfet~ - 25 Jun 2006 04:11 GMT
Hey Jewelz,

>> just curious, what is an AGD game? I'm not asking to be let in, I've
>> just never heard of public mules and the such.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> We also have public mules which are used to store extra items for
> those who may need them at a later date.

What Mickey said. In the past, access to the public mules have always been
limited to well-known regulars who have been around for a while and are
trusted. It used to be that you would see the words "There is one on the
public mules, I'll get it for you". However, it would seem that, at least
once, has changed to "There is one on the public mules, here's the
password".

Sadly, not everyone can be trusted, as this incident has shown. Time to
tighten up access. There are several regs re-filling the mules as I type.

Seems I put myself in the position of deciding who does and who doesn't have
access to the mules. (At least initially) I've had a lot of emails, not all
of which got the password. Please, don't ask me if you haven't been around
for a while and there aren't at least a couple of regs who can vouch for
your character. And don't use the "I had the password before" line as
obviously the person who stripped the mules did too. (Although, if you did
have it before, quote it in your email to me).

Regards,
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Shaun.

custard - 25 Jun 2006 06:17 GMT
just curious whats the password i have been around for quite a loong time
and never actually been given it me and my fiancee (alana/juicey) have a
account full of mules and crap and are willing to pass some of it on.
~mosfet~ - 25 Jun 2006 08:01 GMT
> just curious whats the password i have been around for quite a loong
> time and never actually been given it me and my fiancee
> (alana/juicey) have a account full of mules and crap and are willing
> to pass some of it on.

Yeah, you've been around for about as long as I had when I got the password.
Email me mate. Or talk to Jake, I've already asked him to tell you and Alana
the Pw anyway.
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Shaun.

Jewelz - 26 Jun 2006 00:58 GMT
>> just curious whats the password i have been around for quite a loong
>> time and never actually been given it me and my fiancee
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> password. Email me mate. Or talk to Jake, I've already asked him to tell
> you and Alana the Pw anyway.

Thanks for the responses.  Goof that I am, I figured out what the AGD meant
a little while ago, after I posted. I am not requesting the password, but if
you need some stuff to restock, just msg imbakk2 or pizzedoff (mizz_fury
only on p-off) and I can give some items that range from low on up.

Jewelz
~who feels better now that she escaped the killer curiousity again...might
have something to do with throwing the cat at it :-D
Kate - 25 Jun 2006 12:15 GMT
> Tell me I'm wrong, that the mules are fine. sh.t, I'll have a look myself.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> --
> Shaun.

What a shame, I've made good use of these. Have some lower level stuff
I can contribute too. Hope I'm still eligible for the password!!

Kate
Kate - 25 Jun 2006 13:18 GMT
> > Tell me I'm wrong, that the mules are fine. sh.t, I'll have a look myself.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Kate

Shaun, having trouble trying to E-mail you with old password. My
address is catw34 at the above, if you'll send me a note I'll respond.
Thanks,

Kate
~mosfet~ - 26 Jun 2006 01:05 GMT
>>> Tell me I'm wrong, that the mules are fine. sh.t, I'll have a look
>>> myself.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> address is catw34 at the above, if you'll send me a note I'll respond.
> Thanks,

I got your email Kate, I've just had an extended sleep. :-)

Replied a few minutes ago.

Happy hunting.
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Shaun.

Mickey - 26 Jun 2006 02:18 GMT
>>>> Tell me I'm wrong, that the mules are fine. sh.t, I'll have a look
>>>> myself.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Happy hunting.

Just make a list of what you need :)

Mickey
Lumotar - 27 Jun 2006 20:50 GMT
Sir Snip-alot was here

> Yep, the agdpub account seems to have been looted. I've taken it upon
> myself to change the pass on the other accounts as they still have some
> stuff. Contact me for details. I've changed the pass on the agdpub too.
>
> Bugger!!!!!

I will try emailing you for new psw, if I may get it again :)

Thomas (Lumotar)
~mosfet~ - 28 Jun 2006 01:54 GMT
> Sir Snip-alot was here
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I will try emailing you for new psw, if I may get it again :)

Check your inbox Thomas. :-)
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Shaun.

Lumotar - 28 Jun 2006 08:11 GMT
>> Sir Snip-alot was here
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Check your inbox Thomas. :-)
Thanks Shaun

Thomas
JAM - 24 Jun 2006 23:14 GMT
> What the hell happened to the mules? I went on tonight to add some items
> and get a few things for a new charactor and all the mules are empty.
> Did someone need items that bad? Just 2 days ago the mules were all full
> and now they are barren waist land of empty despare. What's up with
> that?

Now that just blows. We don't need scum having the pub mule passwords, as
much as we need them coming into our mule/quest/baal games. Are the mules
themselves still there? I'm guessing so from yours and Shauns' posts.

Everyone needs to cast their mind back over the past week(s). When was a reg
last on this account? ( I was on it ~3 weeks ago and all was fine) And, who
has given whom the password? ( I've outright refused to give out the
password at all, mainly due to the influx of scum since early this year)
Unfortunantly, this little episode may end up with a few people being put
under a cloud of suspicion, but it's better safe than sorry eh?

I should have some free time during the middle of the week, i'll unload
(some of)my private mules onto the agd ones to help with the restocking
process, and it just might give me a opportunity to get the mule accounts
down to a decent number :)

Regards

Jay

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