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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / Diablo / May 2006Thief report
Hey all, After all the crap that's been going on with thieves lately, i ran into acc stunt_harley in our mule game about 24 hours ago. What followed was a weird "conversation", in which i was accused of running d2loader(no biggie to me, fyi i don't), but the interesting part was when he was asked how he knew, apparantly, he checked my ip... how i have no idea, nor do i care, but that's not a good thing in any case( i'm not worried about it though). The part that upset me though ,was when he whispered me tonight as i sat in a channel, and told me that i was a noob for calling him a thief. I responded with, basically, wtf thinking it was ted(xpx) as his account was harley_xpx. He then came into my channel, trying to pick a verbal fight, at which i told him that we really should go to a private channel for this, as he was likely to get embarrassed if we talked in public. We went to op leeter (his channel) and that's when it all went to hell. Basically, i tried to explain to him why he was labelled a thief, and when he denied it, i told him that maybe he should change his bnet password because obviously someone had it. Then he said only Ted had his password, and that Ted hadn't logged onto it at all... apparantly he'd only been in the game twice, once when he was afk for a hour, and the first night when i called him on being a thief. Next he said that that was a threat that i was going to hack his password, and responded by saying that if he ever logged on, and had a failed login attempt, he was going to dos me and take my bnet accounts. That was the part where i started to lose my cool, i started taking screenshots(i should of from the start) and basically blew my top. I told him a few home truths, and left to hunt down another reg. 5 smokes and 3 cups of coffee later, i realize that i should of whispered someone and got some advice while i was still in his channel. A link to some of the screenshots, alot of the ones i haveare doubles, even triples, and a lot of it is disjointed, i tend to shake pretty bad when i get angry :\ If anyone wants to see them all, no worries at all, i'll send what i have. http://www.flickr.com/photos/63162540@N00/ So basically, i've had enough. I won't be dumping by the stash/fire as long as this mob are around, and unfortunantly, i also am not willing to hold the dropmule game open anymore, as i refuse to help this lot out with muling, with anything at all. My previous offers of helping regs within this group stands unchanged. Comments/suggestions/flames ? Regards, Jay  SignatureJack of Hearts in The Eeeeevil Cabal (TINC...) http://www.evilbill.org.uk - Diablo, Quake & Tomb Raider There is no spoon. "JAM" <Jaysam168@optusnet.nospaaminnow.com.au> wrote in message news:44730cf4$0$7899 > Hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Comments/suggestions/flames ? The only thing I can think of is that we change the names/passwords of the regular AGD games. :( How did these types get in, that's what I'd like to know. Sadly, I won't be around much any more either, my computer's graphics card has partly died so I can't run most games now. :( > > Hey all, [snip] Why was all that message in the sig? SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. "Jamie Kahn Genet" <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote in message news:1hftrjw.1h00vg1f5rn9xN% >> > Hey all, > [snip] > > Why was all that message in the sig? Ack. I forgot to cut and paste. LOL... stupid OE. > "JAM" <Jaysam168@optusnet.nospaaminnow.com.au> wrote in message > news:44730cf4$0$7899 [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > The only thing I can think of is that we change the names/passwords > of the regular AGD games. :( I don't like that option personally. To me, AGD's great strength is it's openness. There are any munber of 'guilds' or groups (AB) you can join but nothing like AGD. See my reply to Jay for what I think. :) > How did these types get in, that's what I'd like to know. Someone tells someone who isn't a reader of the group, who tells someone else....... "Fr33 itamz!!! Dropped around fire!!! People are dumb enuff to mule on ground!!! ROFL, losers!!!" > Sadly, I won't be around much any more either, my computer's graphics > card has partly died so I can't run most games now. :( Just slap in any old card and run the video test again and change to 2D mode. I can run the game acceptably on a slow PC in 2D mode easilly, you hardly notice the difference. <sob> Don't go, please don't go! SignatureShaun. >> Sadly, I won't be around much any more either, my computer's graphics >> card has partly died so I can't run most games now. :( > > Just slap in any old card and run the video test again and change to 2D > mode. I can run the game acceptably on a slow PC in 2D mode easilly, you > hardly notice the difference. <sob> Don't go, please don't go! It runs fine in windowed mode. But next to none of my other games will run :( And sadly, I have no other cards, except an ancient Geforce2 MX200. SignatureJack of Hearts in The Eeeeevil Cabal (TINC...) http://www.evilbill.org.uk - Diablo, Quake & Tomb Raider There is no spoon. >>> Sadly, I won't be around much any more either, my computer's graphics >>> card has partly died so I can't run most games now. :( [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >It runs fine in windowed mode. But next to none of my other games will run >:( And sadly, I have no other cards, except an ancient Geforce2 MX200. Diablo2 runs fine on my GeForce 256 SDR (This is the ORIGINAL GeForce) and P3-733. Yes, there are times where I get single digit frame rates, but it's rare enough not to be a problem. ... "Noneyabusiness" <TopSecret@Need2No.com> wrote in message >>It runs fine in windowed mode. But next to none of my other games will run >>:( And sadly, I have no other cards, except an ancient Geforce2 MX200. > > Diablo2 runs fine on my GeForce 256 SDR (This is the ORIGINAL GeForce) > and P3-733. Yes, there are times where I get single digit frame rates, > but it's rare enough not to be a problem. But, I don't just play Diablo 2 ;) Almost everything else that uses Direct3D or OpenGL either crashes, makes the PC immediately reboot itself, or hangs with an error message. :( SignatureJack of Hearts in The Eeeeevil Cabal (TINC...) http://www.evilbill.org.uk - Diablo, Quake & Tomb Raider There is no spoon. > "Noneyabusiness" <TopSecret@Need2No.com> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > But, I don't just play Diablo 2 ;) Heh!. Methinks you do now, at least until you get another video card, and it'll probably have to be a second-hand one unless your mobo supports APG 4x/8x and the powersupply will run a "modern" card. > Almost everything else that uses Direct3D or OpenGL either crashes, > makes the PC immediately reboot itself, or hangs with an error > message. :( Then run Diablo in 2D mode and stick with the greatest game ever made. (I know it'll run in 3D mode but the frame-rate will be abysmal. I have a machine here with a GF2MX400/32MB and, running in 3D mode it was getting ~10 FPS. In 2D it gets ~50. I know what I'd rather have, even though I only use the machine for muling). SignatureShaun. >> But, I don't just play Diablo 2 ;) > > Heh!. Methinks you do now, at least until you get another video card, and > it'll probably have to be a second-hand one unless your mobo supports APG > 4x/8x and the powersupply will run a "modern" card. The computer is fairly new, no problems with getting a brand-new AGP card - except I'm broke ;) >> Almost everything else that uses Direct3D or OpenGL either crashes, >> makes the PC immediately reboot itself, or hangs with an error >> message. :( > > Then run Diablo in 2D mode and stick with the greatest game ever made. Nah, that'll always be Quake II ;) > (I know it'll run in 3D mode but the frame-rate will be abysmal. I have a > machine here with a GF2MX400/32MB and, running in 3D mode it was getting > ~10 FPS. In 2D it gets ~50. I know what I'd rather have, even though I > only use the machine for muling). I can't run it in 3D at all since this thing happened - I could before just fine, but now I'm stuck in windowed mode which is 2D. SignatureJack of Hearts in The Eeeeevil Cabal (TINC...) http://www.evilbill.org.uk - Diablo, Quake & Tomb Raider There is no spoon. >>> But, I don't just play Diablo 2 ;) >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The computer is fairly new, no problems with getting a brand-new AGP > card - except I'm broke ;) Know the feeling. :( >>> Almost everything else that uses Direct3D or OpenGL either crashes, >>> makes the PC immediately reboot itself, or hangs with an error [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Nah, that'll always be Quake II ;) Maybe, if you like FPS's. I don't. :-) >> (I know it'll run in 3D mode but the frame-rate will be abysmal. I >> have a machine here with a GF2MX400/32MB and, running in 3D mode it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I can't run it in 3D at all since this thing happened - I could > before just fine, but now I'm stuck in windowed mode which is 2D. You can't run in full-screen 2D then? Just re-run the video test.... SignatureShaun. >> I can't run it in 3D at all since this thing happened - I could >> before just fine, but now I'm stuck in windowed mode which is 2D. > > You can't run in full-screen 2D then? Just re-run the video test.... Um. OK. It seems to be working again in 3D. This is just plain screwy. 3 days of Direct3D/OpenGL not working at all, and then for no reason it fixes itself. Makes me wonder what's going to go nuts next. SignatureJack of Hearts in The Eeeeevil Cabal (TINC...) http://www.evilbill.org.uk - Diablo, Quake & Tomb Raider There is no spoon. >>> I can't run it in 3D at all since this thing happened - I could >>> before just fine, but now I'm stuck in windowed mode which is 2D. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > This is just plain screwy. 3 days of Direct3D/OpenGL not working at > all, and then for no reason it fixes itself. Odd. Has the weather just got cooler? The main thing to go wrong, IME, with graphics cards is the on-board RAM (Or GPU due to stuck fan) and it's usually due to heat and/or overclocking. Is your case sufficiently cooled? My other thought was that MS DirectX could be corrupted. A re-install of the latest version might help. > Makes me wonder what's going to go nuts next. Probably you. ;-) Cheers, SignatureShaun. "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahooo.co.nz> wrote in message >> Um. OK. It seems to be working again in 3D. >> This is just plain screwy. 3 days of Direct3D/OpenGL not working at [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > with graphics cards is the on-board RAM (Or GPU due to stuck fan) and it's > usually due to heat and/or overclocking. Is your case sufficiently cooled? As far as I know. Had this box for about 9 months, no problems like this before. It's really weird. > My other thought was that MS DirectX could be corrupted. A re-install of > the latest version might help. > >> Makes me wonder what's going to go nuts next. > > Probably you. ;-) I already did years ago, it was Windows 98 First Edition that did it ;) SignatureJack of Hearts in The Eeeeevil Cabal (TINC...) http://www.evilbill.org.uk - Diablo, Quake & Tomb Raider There is no spoon. > "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahooo.co.nz> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > As far as I know. Had this box for about 9 months, no problems like > this before. It's really weird. Nine months is about the right time-frame for vents/fans/heatsinks to get clogged with dust. A little peek-a-boo inside the case, concentrating on the ventilation areas and the fans wouldn't hurt. Also, fire it up while open, make sure fans are spinning. :) >> My other thought was that MS DirectX could be corrupted. A >> re-install of the latest version might help. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I already did years ago, it was Windows 98 First Edition that did it > ;) It was the drugs with me. ;-) SignatureShaun. "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahooo.co.nz> wrote in message >> As far as I know. Had this box for about 9 months, no problems like >> this before. It's really weird. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the ventilation areas and the fans wouldn't hurt. Also, fire it up while > open, make sure fans are spinning. :) Well, quick update, turns out it *didn't* start working again after all, but for some reason Rome Total War still works as does Quake II. I get the following from dxdiag: Direct3D 7 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x887602eb (error code) Direct3D 8 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086a (3D not available) Direct3D 9 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086a (3D not available) Did a Google search for the error codes and got little that helped... and last time I opened a box up, I killed it, so I'm a little wary of doing so. LOL SignatureJack of Hearts in The Eeeeevil Cabal (TINC...) http://www.evilbill.org.uk - Diablo, Quake & Tomb Raider There is no spoon. >"Noneyabusiness" <TopSecret@Need2No.com> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Almost everything else that uses Direct3D or OpenGL either crashes, makes >the PC immediately reboot itself, or hangs with an error message. :( Ouch... Game incompatibilities shouldn't cause these types of symptoms. Sounds like a bad card, but then you'd think D2 wouldn't run either... What games are you trying to play that need a better card? FWIW, I've seen FX5200's going for dirt cheap ($20 after discounts/rebates). ... "Noneyabusiness" <TopSecret@Need2No.com> wrote in message >>But, I don't just play Diablo 2 ;) >>Almost everything else that uses Direct3D or OpenGL either crashes, makes [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Game incompatibilities shouldn't cause these types of symptoms. Sounds > like a bad card, but then you'd think D2 wouldn't run either... Well, D2 is one of the ones that crashes in Direct3D mode. The only thing I can think of apart from an actual hardware problem, is some weird screw-up with the drivers. It started after a reboot following several automatic Windows updates (although those were for M$ Office so they shouldn't have affected anything...) > What games are you trying to play that need a better card? Quake 3 and 4, Battle for Middle-Earth, Neverwinter Nights, Age of Mythology, Serious Sam, Elite Force, Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Rome Total War... basically, any game that uses 3D acceleration and doesn't have a 2D mode, which is almost any game produced in the last eight years. > FWIW, I've seen FX5200's going for dirt cheap ($20 after > discounts/rebates). Sadly, those would be worse than my current card (a 6200) and I live in the UK where everything's more expensive. SignatureJack of Hearts in The Eeeeevil Cabal (TINC...) http://www.evilbill.org.uk - Diablo, Quake & Tomb Raider There is no spoon. Another alternative (a lot cheaper and just as good?) is to buy a PCI card. It does the trick and you save about 75% of the AGP price. Good hunting... BTW I have just one friend in US east and he drops his torches to show me, I give them back becauuse is the frienship and game experience that counts. I rather go on without my "great items" than steal them from someone. I always go to games where low levels are playing and give them the good stuff i find that i cant use, usually the +1 or 2 items or uniques. Like someone said a few messages back, it is only a game. I do have a lot of stuff muled, nothing great, but I am available and willing to part from them at either USEAST "STRONGFOK" or USWEST "STRONGFOKKER". I just wish there were more people "out there" like you guys "in here". Can we all get along... LOL Juan <JuanTorres1964@gmail.com> wrote in message > Another alternative (a lot cheaper and just as good?) is to buy a PCI > card. It does the trick and you save about 75% of the AGP price. Good > hunting... Don't think you can get something with enough power to run Rome: Total War or Quake 4 in PCI, sadly... <g> SignatureJack of Hearts in The Eeeeevil Cabal (TINC...) http://www.evilbill.org.uk - Diablo, Quake & Tomb Raider There is no spoon. > Hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > care, but that's not a good thing in any case( i'm not worried about it > though). <shnip rest> It sounds like this guy's just trying to pick a fight. A bnet troll, IOW. First he accuses you of using a hack, then says he's gotten your IP. I don't know of any way in hell he can obtain any of this information without input from you. And if as you say, you weren't using d2loader, and he said that you were, then that proves he's full of sh.t. I would never believe another word this person said to me, and just ignore him for ever more. :-) Signature"Because all you of Earth are idiots!" ¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-> freemont© <-·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ [snip] >i tend to shake pretty bad when i get angry :\ It's a *game*...why are you getting so worked up??? It's not good for your health ;-) And it's doubtful that anyone can get your IP from the game. (You're behind a firewall anyway, right? <g>) [snip] >Comments/suggestions/flames ? > >Regards, > >Jay ... > [snip] > >> i tend to shake pretty bad when i get angry :\ > > It's a *game*...why are you getting so worked up??? > It's not good for your health ;-) Maybe because a lot of us have tense times of it in RL and come to the game to relax? Or because this isn't the first run-in Jay has had with this guy. Then again I could say why are you avoiding the issue that Jay raises and commenting on Jay? What's the point in that? > And it's doubtful that anyone can get your IP from the game. You work in the IT field? SignatureShaun. > [snip] > >>i tend to shake pretty bad when i get angry :\ > > It's a *game*...why are you getting so worked up??? Because of exactly that, it's a game. I don't want or need to have little idiots coming onto my screen and telling me that i'm "noob" because i don't use "l33t" bots and mh. I don't need to hear foul language, if i wanted to i'd go and see the boys onsite and get my fill. I'm no puritan when it comes to language, but a little bit of culture doesn't go astray, right? Also, i don't appreciate being hostiled in agd games, unless it's by Diago when i want to see how my life stands up to a good whacking :) I don't appreciate being called a "dole bludger" by someone who hasn't seen a days work in their life, or being told that, if the idiot types the wrong password into his account, that my internet connection is going to get dos'd. If i don't have my internet connection, then it becomes a major PITA for my company to invoice. I will not have anyone threaten my familys well being. > It's not good for your health ;-) > > And it's doubtful that anyone can get your IP from the game. > (You're behind a firewall anyway, right? <g>) Yes, my firewall is a multi-tiered system, modem, router, and each individual computer is protected... firewalls do nothing against dos attacks, they can be set to overcome them, but why the hell should i have to? Like you said it's a game, and this tosser has threatened my livelyhood. > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ... > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > And it's doubtful that anyone can get your IP from the game. > (You're behind a firewall anyway, right? <g>) Even if you are not, they cannot, as it is never transmitted in any packet for any reason. Now in D1, that was different. Mickey > Hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ip... how i have no idea, nor do i care, but that's not a good thing > in any case( i'm not worried about it though). Did he quote your IP to you? Did it check out? If not he's full of it. > The part that upset me though ,was when he whispered me tonight as i > sat in a channel, and told me that i was a noob for calling him a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > he'd only been in the game twice, once when he was afk for a hour, > and the first night when i called him on being a thief. Sounds like excuses. I read your screenies, this guy is incapable of being truthful it would seem. > Next he said that that was a threat that i was going to hack his > password, and responded by saying that if he ever logged on, and had > a failed login attempt, he was going to dos me and take my bnet > accounts. More hot air I think Jay. > That was the part where i started to lose my cool, i started taking > screenshots(i should of from the start) and basically blew my top. I > told him a few home truths, and left to hunt down another reg. 5 > smokes and 3 cups of coffee later, i realize that i should of > whispered someone and got some advice while i was still in his > channel. Don't let him get to you buddy. There are a million kids like him on Bnet, this is just one of them.\ This guy doesn't even know what "the group" is, he's someone who has heard about our games from someone...... He doen't belong there, same as anyone who hasn't been part of AGD, (even as a lurking is good enough, you get a feel for the group). I met a new member in our games the other day who only lurks in here, really nice guy. > A link to some of the screenshots, alot of the ones i haveare > doubles, even triples, and a lot of it is disjointed, i tend to shake > pretty bad when i get angry :\ Like I said, this fart isn't worth getting angry over. > If anyone wants to see them all, no > worries at all, i'll send what i have. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/63162540@N00/ Had a look, thanks. > So basically, i've had enough. I won't be dumping by the stash/fire > as long as this mob are around, and unfortunantly, i also am not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Comments/suggestions/flames ? This isn't the first time that we've had griefers and it won't be the last. I'm willing to do what the majority want but my suggestion is to *not* drop-mule in AGD, get a reg to hold it for you in another game. (Quite a few have offered, we should be able to find someone most times of the day or night with a little patience and a good friends list) Cease the practice of dropping 'giveaway' items by the fire for as long as it takes. Either mule them and offer them to regs or, use the shared mules if you have access (or get someone who does to put them there as I did for the first 6 months before I got access) or, if they're common, sell them. (If a reg is looking for a fairly 'common' (or uncommon) item, mention it here (with "Anti-griefers" in the subject would be good as it's a short-term solution and don't want to turn this into a trading forum) and acct name and, if someone finds it they may message you. This is for free items, not trading) If we do this, and all stick to it for long enough, they'll go away. I've spoken to others who have their own tactics for dealing with these fools and will use them. However, I suggest we stick to the above rigourously. If there's nothing for them to take they won't come back. Also, juveniles like this thrive on conflict, it makes their pants swell. Don't argue with them, don't talk to them, don't be provoked by them. They are ephemeral, short attention spans, they *will* go away once there's no reason for them to stay. That's my take on it, as always, open to being told to STFU, that I don't know shite... etc. SignatureShaun. <big snip> >> A link to some of the screenshots, >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/63162540@N00/ > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Also, juveniles like this thrive on conflict, it makes their pants swell. > Don't argue with them, don't talk to them, don't be provoked by them. Done and done, thanks for the advice. > They are ephemeral, short attention spans, they *will* go away once > there's no reason for them to stay. And this is why i'll no longer park a mule in the normal game. If it doesn't exsist, there's less chance they'll make it. My small attempt at getting them out. > That's my take on it, as always, open to being told to STFU, that I don't > know shite... etc. Not likely to happen :) Jay > I'm willing to do what the majority want but my suggestion is to *not* > drop-mule in AGD, get a reg to hold it for you in another game. (Quite a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Also, juveniles like this thrive on conflict, it makes their pants swell. > Don't argue with them, don't talk to them, don't be provoked by them. Muling in a different act might confound them a bit, too. (And not act 5, that'd be the other obvious choice. <g>) SignatureJack of Hearts in The Eeeeevil Cabal (TINC...) http://www.evilbill.org.uk - Diablo, Quake & Tomb Raider There is no spoon. > Hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Comments/suggestions/flames ? Time for Diego to hunt some orc..... Mickey |
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