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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / Diablo / January 2006Mickeys Meatgrinder
Hello, Mickey: Once you mentioned your "patented meatgrinder necro". Could you please post stat/skill distribution for me (and anyone who is interested)? (I am thinking: max skels, max mastery, max revive, fire golem, some CE, some sort of spirit/spear for direct damage, all curses?) Thx. CA. >Mickey: Once you mentioned your "patented meatgrinder necro" Heh, patented. Keep in mind, his "patented" build is basically the same cookie cutter summoner build used by half the population of B.net, except with a crappier merc(he will dispute this, as he loves barb mercs. Regardless of that however, an act 2 merc is the superior choice). He claims his use of CE is what seperates his build from most summoners, except for the fact that my summoner, and at least half the summoners I've played with make liberal use of it as well. I'll list the exact skills he uses(taken from a prior post of his), and aside from changing the suggested merc, I will be presenting a skill set that I could have copied pretty much from any website that lists D2 builds. So unless changing mercs constitutes a new build, his "patented" build is one of the easiest and most common cookie cutters in the game. It's like someone in 09 talking about a "patented barb build" that suggested maxing a weapon mastery, Whirlwind, and Battle Orders. > (I am thinking: max skels, max mastery, max revive, fire golem, some CE, > some sort of spirit/spear for direct damage, all curses?) Close. Replace max revive with higher level CE. You will almost never have a full complement of revives if you max it, hell, with top end gear it's uncommon that you'll even have your full army of revives with just 1 point and your +skills. Me, I like direct damage, but since the Marrowwalks bug doesn't work anymore, you don't really have enough points to get a really strong spirit/spear, so points in CE are generally more useful. If you have the gear to get a high enough level CE without maxing it, you can then invest the rest of your points in spear/spirit. This is his exact build, from a previous post of his: Max Skeleton Mastery Max Skeletons 15-20 revives (with your +skills) Level 20+ CE (With + skill items) Mean old nasty barb merc 1000 Mana 60 STR Base Dex 300+ VIT Replace "Mean old nasty barb merc" with the FAR superior "mean old nasty act 2 Might merc" and you're good to go. > Thx. > > CA. >>Mickey: Once you mentioned your "patented meatgrinder necro" > >Heh, patented. Keep in mind, his "patented" build is basically the same [snip] >Replace "Mean old nasty barb merc" with the FAR superior "mean old nasty act >2 Might merc" and you're good to go. All this doesn't sound too friendly towards Mickey...? Anyway, I think you're mistaken: Mickey has always promoted the Merc type he prefers most on a Meatgrinder, a "Rabbi" merc. This is his term for an Act 2 Prayer Merc wielding an Insight polearm. The Prayer aura on the Merc and the Meditation aura on the Polearm synergize each-other, resulting in extra fast regeneration. I'm not exactly sure which regeneration is speeded up. It's an interesting idea, and will continually heal the bone army. Personally, I also prefer a Might merc, with an Insight polearm: Might merc himself deals more damage, the skellies also do, resulting in the first body sooner, so the CE-chain can be started. Meditation is, however, very nice to have, because a Maxed CE (which is what I use) consumes a _LOT_ of mana. Be careful when going for the Bone spells: Bone Spirit can be maxed, but after that, consider putting 1 point in Bone Armor, and then putting subsequent points in Bone Wall or Bone Prison: they synergize the Bone Spirit, but also provide a better boost to Bone Armor than putting points directly in Bone Armor. Regards, Patrick. > All this doesn't sound too friendly towards Mickey...? Not directly at him this time, just at him being given credit for a build that a child can come up(which much of b.net managed to do, sorta proving that). The build he's being credited as "patenting" is one of the biggest cookie cutters in the current game, requiring no skill either to build or to play, and believe me, it doesn't require some elaborate combination of skills that nobody else would put together. > Anyway, I think you're mistaken: Mickey has always promoted the Merc type > he prefers most on a Meatgrinder, a "Rabbi" merc. Hmm? I just gave you the exact quote word for word from his post... http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.diablo/browse_frm/thread/2e0f59ed1aa93e b2/735e6e76ed894bcf?lnk=st&q=%22ye+olde+meatgrinder%22&rnum=3&hl=en#735e6e76ed89 4bcf Look at post number 5: Max Skeleton Mastery Max Skeletons 15-20 revives (with your +skills) Level 20+ CE (With + skill items) ****Mean old nasty barb merc**** 1000 Mana 60 STR Base Dex 300+ VIT Insight was added later, perhaps he changed it then. But at least in that post, he says barb merc. > Regards, > > Patrick. > > All this doesn't sound too friendly towards Mickey...? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Hmm? I just gave you the exact quote word for word from his post... > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.diablo/browse_frm/thread/2e0f59ed1aa93e b2/735e6e76ed894bcf?lnk=st&q=%22ye+olde+meatgrinder%22&rnum=3&hl=en#735e6e76ed89 4bcf So what? Since the old post, so many changes have occurred that use of a barb merc is no longer needed. Since they "shortened the leash" on the hirelings, its less common that the Act 2 merc goes off in the corner for a smoke while skellies and golem take abuse. The barb merc was more aggressive, and took a lot of the heat off the minions. Nowadays most people, including Mickey opt for a Prayer, Might or even an HF merc. If a merc doesn't work out, buy a new one within 5 levels of you and work him into the rotation. If Mickey wants to take credit for the build let him. I don't see anyone getting their panties in a bunch when you remind us (frequently) that you are the only adger who regularly duels. Sean > So what? Since the old post, so many changes have occurred that use of > a barb merc is no longer needed. Use of a barb merc was NEVER needed. > If Mickey wants to take credit for the build let him. f.ck off, it ain't his build and NOBODY should take credit for a build that ain't theirs. > I don't see anyone getting their panties in a bunch when you remind us > (frequently) > that you are the only adger who regularly duels. I also don't see me ever being credited with creating dueling, either. > Sean >> So what? Since the old post, so many changes have occurred that use of >> a barb merc is no longer needed. > > Use of a barb merc was NEVER needed. In YOUR opinion, you arrogant bastard. The necro was never needed either, you flaming fuicking idiot. The point was what worked best, and given that I have lead the ladder 3 times with necros (4 if you count the beta), and you have done nothing OTHER than post opinion without a whit of evidence they work, kind shove it. >> If Mickey wants to take credit for the build let him. > > f.ck off, As usual, proving what an idiot you are. >it ain't his build and NOBODY should take credit for a build that ain't >theirs. Really, then whose is it? Show me a template for that build that predates mine. COme now, that should be easy for SUCH a f.cking genius as yourself, someone SO talented that he can't play except off ladder hwere he has a hrode of super items from 8 years ago. What a f.cking twit you are. >> I don't see anyone getting their panties in a bunch when you remind us >> (frequently) >> that you are the only adger who regularly duels. > > I also don't see me ever being credited with creating dueling, either. Blizzard, as they did. Also noted is the fact that you're too f.cking ignorant to know the difference between a feature in the game and a build type, namely that one is discretionary (oooh, big word, better haul out that dictionary) the other is not. Mickey > In YOUR opinion, you arrogant bastard. The necro was never needed either, > you flaming fuicking idiot. The point was what worked best, and given that > I have lead the ladder 3 times with necros (4 if you count the beta), Just cause you have no life and play for hours on end doesn't mean your build is better than anyone elses. One of the ladder leaders in the pally ladder is a friend of mine, I've seen him and played with him, and he uses a cookie cutter pally. > Really, then whose is it? Show me a template for that build that predates > mine. COme now, that should be easy for SUCH a f.cking genius as yourself, Are you wanting a guide for a revive/CE nec from 09, or a 1.10 summoner build? > someone SO talented that he can't play except off ladder hwere he has a > hrode of super items from 8 years ago. How many rangers did you play to 99 again? Mine made it that far using almost nothing that I didn't find myself. He reached 99 with super items like a selfmade Lionheart armor in a boneweave, Tal's Mask, and Bloodfists. He made it through half of nightmare using a STORMSTRIKE(then finally found a Kuko to replace it with). I can play just fine without super items, I merely PREFER to play with the best gear possible, especially with characters who I plan on taking into PvP. And since MFing bores me immensely, that is more easily achieved playing off ladder. > Mickey >> In YOUR opinion, you arrogant bastard. The necro was never needed either, >> you flaming fuicking idiot. The point was what worked best, and given [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ladder is a friend of mine, I've seen him and played with him, and he uses > a cookie cutter pally. No life? ROFL you lame little boy, you moron, you idiot beyond description, I have MORE life than you will EVER have, because you're a lying little scumbag, a coward and a fool. I run a business, I work and I have 9 kids. What is YOUR life? What monumental accomplishments do you have, outside of Diablo (as you have none IN Diablo), to your credit? Come now, as you said I have no life, then one can assume you have a point from which to launch this charge, so let us hear it. >> Really, then whose is it? Show me a template for that build that predates >> mine. COme now, that should be easy for SUCH a f.cking genius as >> yourself, > > Are you wanting a guide for a revive/CE nec from 09, or a 1.10 summoner > build? Ah, you mean the meatgrinders guide I wrote..... FIVE years ago? Yes, find one that PRE-DATES mine. I bet you can't. Then again, I bet you won't even reply to this portion, as running away from a challenge has always been your MO. >> someone SO talented that he can't play except off ladder hwere he has a >> hrode of super items from 8 years ago. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > especially with characters who I plan on taking into PvP. And since MFing > bores me immensely, that is more easily achieved playing off ladder. What does that have to do with the point I made? You hide in NL land, you've got NOTHING to your credit OTHER than your own bullshit words. As to a ranger, ig f.cking deal, I took a barb using nothing but a hat I made and a Kuko to level 99 and never used a SINGLE skill or stat point. You want to start matching your piddly-a.s accomplishments with mine here, let us have a go, as for each tiny little step you've taken, I have walked a parsec. And still you duck the 2 questions. What have you done in this game, what accomplishments, what accolades have you garnered that would cause ANYONE to take ANYTHING you have to say as more than words of a fool blowing smoke up people's a.ses, and when will you answer the original question I posed. You have run and run and run, now either run away, or I can guarantee you that for your life on this NG, I will hound you for an answer. You launched an unprovoked attack, based on an ABSOLUTE lie, and when you were called to answer for it, you ran. I my computer has "hit causes lying to flee". Mickey > > So what? Since the old post, so many changes have occurred that use of > > a barb merc is no longer needed. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I also don't see me ever being credited with creating dueling, either. I got an idea. Why don't YOU f.ck off. You're the only regular poster on this group or agd2 who routinely makes snippy bitchy a.shole posts. You need to go to a proctologist and have him remove the giant bug from your a.s. Sean >> You're the only regular poster on this group or agd2 who routinely > makes snippy bitchy a.shole posts. Guess you don't read Mick's posts too often. > Sean >>> You're the only regular poster on this group or agd2 who routinely >> makes snippy bitchy a.shole posts. > > Guess you don't read Mick's posts too often. Heh! Or mine. (Sorry Sean, I'm laughing as I write this).  Signature~misfit~ > >>> You're the only regular poster on this group or agd2 who routinely > >> makes snippy bitchy a.shole posts. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Heh! Or mine. (Sorry Sean, I'm laughing as I write this). > -- Sorry misfit, but I think its impossible (at least in my Usenet experience) for most members of the Commonwealth to be straight-up, in your face a.sholes. That takes an American or certain races of continental European stock. : ) I can be a first-class grade A a.shole when I want to be, but its usually counterproductive. Sean >>>>> You're the only regular poster on this group or agd2 who routinely >>>> makes snippy bitchy a.shole posts. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I can be a first-class grade A a.shole when I want to be, but its > usually counterproductive. Actually you're spot on there buddy. After reading that I thought back over my many, many hours of reading usenet over the years and, despite my dislike of stereotyping, have to agree 100%. The only consistantly unrepentant people that fit into the above category that I have had the displeasure of conversing with do indeed come from the locations you mentioned. I, too, can be as nasty as you like at times. However, it's always with just cause and rarely do I keep at it for long. It's just too draining and, as you say, counterproductive. And, strangely enough, is invariably in response to someone who fits the above profile. I don't let a.sholes go unchallenged in groups I care about. Signature~misfit~ <snip> bloody kiwi :) > <snip> > > bloody kiwi :) Heh! Actually I was born a Pom, came out here with the folks in '73 when I was a spotty-faced adolescent. And no, that's *not* 1873. :-) Signature~misfit~ > Heh! Or mine. (only in regards to paul;-P) >> Heh! Or mine. > > (only in regards to paul;-P) Heh, yep. Actually, a couple others recently are getting on my goat. (So to speak) Both Europeans too. Signature~misfit~ >>> You're the only regular poster on this group or agd2 who routinely >> makes snippy bitchy a.shole posts. > > Guess you don't read Mick's posts too often. ROFL!!! Once again trying to get to me, eh little boy. This time you have REALLY exposed to everyone what a little sh.t you are. You have nothing to say other than to attack people. You have the ego of a broken egg, the brains God gave a turnip, and the veracity of Baghdad Bob. You've now been shown to be what many of us have known you to be for a long time now, a blowhard, without the balls to back up his own words, the maturity to stand up like a man and admit when you're wrong, and not one f.cking thing to your credit to give you a whit of credibility. You've done nothing, have zero accomplishments, anode when challenged, the best you can do is to try to make light of the accomplishments of those who DO have some. You're a sad little boy with an ego that would fit in a thimble and not enough brains to fill and egg cup. If you did have 17 functional gray cells, you would have at least the sense of self-preservation nature gave a spider and stop attacking me, when every time you have, you've come up looking like an idiot. I guess that defines TRUE stupidity, the lack of enough common sense NOT to stick your dick in the garbage disposal. Then again, making an idiot out of you has become something of a sport for me, even though it has never presented anything in the way of a real challenge. Mickey > I got an idea. Why don't YOU f.ck off. Mickey has many relatives and friends who will join to support him. There is also the "group effect" which will often lead other people to join the group. I also noticed the same ISP or AOL or ETC using different name or email address from his supporters who will actually jump on the guy who contradict him. How can you support this lying WACO if you have a conciense? BTW I was not talking about you bob. Also why these kinds of supporters have nothing more to say than go away? No explanation but 100% full Mickey. The infestation has already began in AGD2 with a charming campaign from Mickey and yes he can give good advices but he should stay in AGD . When you disagree the WACO become crazy. ;oP VD > > I got an idea. Why don't YOU f.ck off. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > with a charming campaign from Mickey and yes he can give good advices but he > should stay in AGD . When you disagree the WACO become crazy. ;oP "Disagreeing", and "attacking" are two different things. Shiflet told me blatantly to "f.ck off", when I told him to lighten up about Mickey taking credit for the skellimancer build. That was uncalled for, and I will defend myself. As for Mickey, he can take care of himself. I do not see eye to eye with him on his politics, yet since I rarely run into him outside of this forum, I have never come to loggerheads with him on any issue. As for this game and this forum, he is a very competent player and is also very generous. He is a scholar of this game fwiw, and willingly shares his knowledge and items with any member of the group who cares to join the agd games. BTW, English must not be your first language. Mickey is a "whacko", not a WACO. WACO is a town in Texas, : ) Sean >> > I got an idea. Why don't YOU f.ck off. >> > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > WACO is a town in Texas, : ) Turn off the lights and a cockroach will appear. You will note the re-appearance of VD, a rancid piece of sh.t that has never, NOT ONCE, contributed ANYTHING of value to either group. What he does is hang around waiting for any rustling or leaves, and then pops out to post an attack against me. He's an anti-American, anti-Semitic little piece of sh.t, a gutless little frog without the balls to do anything other than attack people he'd run like hell from in RILL, without the guts to even post using his real name, simply without guts. He should join the French army, they do are good at being cowards. Mickey I think it was "Mickey" that wrote something like... >Turn off the lights and a cockroach will appear. You will note the >re-appearance of VD, a rancid piece of sh.t that has never, NOT ONCE, >contributed ANYTHING of value to either group. Actually, that's not quite true. I had actually wondered if that was so myself, but a quick google found a fair number of posts by him answering questions about the game. Possibly not in AGD, but in AGD2 definitely. Ashen Shugar SignatureThe lions sing and the hills take flight. The moon by day, and the sun by night. Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool. Let the Lord of Chaos rule! >I think it was "Mickey" that wrote something like... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > answering questions about the game. Possibly not in AGD, but in AGD2 > definitely. I will take your word for that. The point remains that someone asked a question of ME... not him, of ME. Before I could reply, he went berserk and launch a vitriolic attack. Take him for whatever you wish you, I think he's an idiot of massive proportions. Mickey >>I think it was "Mickey" that wrote something like... >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Mickey Take mine, too. Some of his helpful posts have shown up in my watch filter. ald "Knowledge is Power" VK`Sister`ald level 47 Rogue (HF V&K) (RIP :-( ) Matriarch Sis-West level 82 Bowazon (US West) Champion RingsNThngs level 61 Bowazon (US West) Slayer ZannEsu-ald level 51 Sorceress (US West) Matriarch Sis-AR level 99 Bowazon (Ancestral Recall Mod) Champion Creepy-AR Level 91 Necromancer (AR) Slayer Zan-AR Level 79 Sorceress (AR) Slayer SisEight-AR Level 78 Bowazon (AR) Gems-AR Level 55 Barbarian (AR) Matriarch Sis-otSEye Level 78 Bowazon (US West, co-op) BtaSisEight-ald Level 50 Bowazon (LoD 1.10 SP) Aragorn-AR Level 51 Zealadin (AR) Champion LTwoSis-ald Level 79 Bowazon (US West Ladder) CotSRSig #16 >>>I think it was "Mickey" that wrote something like... >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Take mine, too. Some of his helpful posts have shown up in my watch > filter. That does not address the point though, does it? Mickey >> Take mine, too. Some of his helpful posts have shown up in my watch >> filter. > >That does not address the point though, does it? > >Mickey About how he comes out of the woodwork to attack you? No, I didn't comment on that, as it's pretty obvious ;-) ald "Knowledge is Power" VK`Sister`ald level 47 Rogue (HF V&K) (RIP :-( ) Matriarch Sis-West level 82 Bowazon (US West) Champion RingsNThngs level 61 Bowazon (US West) Slayer ZannEsu-ald level 51 Sorceress (US West) Matriarch Sis-AR level 99 Bowazon (Ancestral Recall Mod) Champion Creepy-AR Level 91 Necromancer (AR) Slayer Zan-AR Level 79 Sorceress (AR) Slayer SisEight-AR Level 78 Bowazon (AR) Gems-AR Level 55 Barbarian (AR) Matriarch Sis-otSEye Level 78 Bowazon (US West, co-op) BtaSisEight-ald Level 50 Bowazon (LoD 1.10 SP) Aragorn-AR Level 51 Zealadin (AR) Champion LTwoSis-ald Level 79 Bowazon (US West Ladder) CotSRSig #16 >>> Take mine, too. Some of his helpful posts have shown up in my watch >>> filter. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > About how he comes out of the woodwork to attack you? No, I didn't > comment on that, as it's pretty obvious ;-) It's funny..... It seems I inspire that sort of behavior on UseNet, which is odd as I have no such issues either on battle net or in real life. Then again, I guess the exposure is so wide that it is bound to happen to anyone with an outgoing personality. Mickey >He's an anti-American, anti-Semitic little piece of sh.t, a >gutless little frog without the balls to do anything other than attack >people he'd run like hell from in RILL, without the guts to even post using >his real name, simply without guts. He should join the French army, they do >are good at being cowards. My hypocrisy meter just topped out. How can you in one sentence call someone a anti-whatever piece of sh.t and then go on to be exactly that? Perhaps you should try applying your standards (such as they are) to yourself. I await your rationalization. -- No good deed will go unpunished. >>He's an anti-American, anti-Semitic little piece of sh.t, a >>gutless little frog without the balls to do anything other than attack [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I await your rationalization. None will be forthcoming. As a nation, I despise the French with the same vigor they display in despising me. No nation on earth, not at any time past or present, not even Nazi Germany has attained even a close approximation to the anti-Semitism of the French. If you need factual evidence I would suggest looking up the history of the French banking system, and also how JFK blocked their attempts to nationalize the wine industry. Mickey >>>He's an anti-American, anti-Semitic little piece of sh.t, a >>>gutless little frog without the balls to do anything other than attack [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Mickey There is only a little problem since I am not French but North American or Quebecer or French Canadian and it is like calling an American a Brit. VD > > None will be forthcoming. As a nation, I despise the French with the same > > vigor they display in despising me. No nation on earth, not at any time [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > Mickey I haven't read the whole thread so i may misunderstand something here. I am german and Mickey, I can tell you: Killing the Jews in "Konzentrationslagern" is somewhat the greatest and ugliest extreme of anti-semetism I can think of. Oh, the French have their black points, too (think of the "hugenotten"), but nothing except maybe Stalin beats Hitler-Germany in killing people, and the people killed were mostly Jews. This years were the darkest in german history. I would not be surprised if every jew on this earth has a relative or knows somebody who was killed in Germany during that time. CA >> > None will be forthcoming. As a nation, I despise the French with the > same [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > knows > somebody who was killed in Germany during that time. Being the child of a Holocaust survivor, I hardly need to be reminded of what took place. That being the case, the Holocaust and all that surrounds it fails the test of true anti-Semitism on at least 2 fronts. One must remember the REAL reasons for the Holocaust: Firstly, the Jews were not targeted because of their religious beliefs, nor were they singled out. They happened to have been the largest of the groups targeted, and as such are remembered more often In reality, the Nazi did as bad or worse to the Romany, and hunted the gypsies with at least as strong a fervor as they hunted Jews. In other words, Jews weren't hunted because they WERE Jews, but rather because they were NOT Aryan. Secondly, the Jews were made convenient scapegoats for a German economy that was running an inflation rate of 100%/week. As Jews were NEVER land owners in Germany, most works as merchants and vendors. It was quite easy to point to a Jewish baker and say "Look at that Jew bastard, he's charging you TWICE as much for a loaf of bread today", and never mention that the baker PAID twice as much for the yeast, flower, etc. The Jews weren't hated for being Jews, they were simply convenient scapegoats for the Nazis when things went bad. Now the French, otoh, have no such excuses or reasons. The French simply hate Jews for being Jews, and always have. They nationalized the banking industry in order to take control of the Rothschild Bank (owned by Jews, of course), and were about to do the same to the wine industry, as nothing quite gets under their skin as much as the fact that the thing France is most famous for, fine wine, has as its most famous wine, one bottled by Jews. The ONLY reason they did not go through with this was that JFK told them that while they were free to do so, they would not be selling a single bottle of wine in the USA thereafter. I lived in Germany and Switzerland for a LONG time, and never felt anything that even hinted at anti-Semitism. Quite to the contrary, from what I have seen in Germany these days, if someone starts uttering anti-Semitic rhetoric, they will be slammed and slammed hard. But every trip to Paris made me feel like I had a bull's-eye painted on my back. Mickey > Being the child of a Holocaust survivor, I hardly need to be > reminded of what took place. That being the case, the Holocaust and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > other words, Jews weren't hunted because they WERE Jews, but rather > because they were NOT Aryan. Homosexuals and Jehovah's Witnesses were also specifically targeted, although since there were few Witnesses and few open homosexuals at the time, to nowhere near as great an extent. (I might note, I have both Romany Gypsy *and* Jewish ancestors in my family tree, so it's a bloody good thing the Nazis never invaded Britain...) Signature-- "I hope you don't object to my badgering the witless!" EvilBill - http://www.evilbill.org.uk yahoo: evilbill_agqx Virtual Den , your post to alt.games.diablo is almost better than a suggestion to SIGN CARL ENGLISH! >> I got an idea. Why don't YOU f.ck off. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the guy who contradict him. How can you support this lying WACO if > you have a conciense? BTW I was not talking about you bob. WOW!!!! Someone attacks Mickey and the Boy with Unfortunate Initials shows up! What a surprise! Somebody call his mama! Salut, BwUI, ca va? Tu t'es bien amusé avec les vaches hier soir? > Also why these kinds of supporters have nothing more to say than go > away? No explanation but 100% full Mickey. The infestation has already > began in AGD2 with a charming campaign from Mickey and yes he can give > good advices but he should stay in AGD . When you disagree the WACO > become crazy. ;oP Waco TX? I hear that town is a lot nicer than its unfortunate associations with Daivd Koresh...oh wait, you were talking about a whacko? Oh, I only see one of those, and it isn't Mickey. On a side note, I find it a real shame that two people who give sound advice on the game can be at each other's throats with such voracity. I took a hiatus from this group because there was so much bad blood, and the sniping had killed the group to the point that only a post about giving away freebies provoked a reponse. I have been in this group as a lurker and poster for about 3 years, and it was NEVER about freebies. That sickened me. So, personal animosity aside (and I have a good deal of it for some here myself), can we just discuss the game and amusing off-topic anecdotes before we descend into racial arguments again? I mean, if push comes to shove, someone killfile someone else and be done with it. <snip> > On a side note, I find it a real shame that two people who give sound > advice on the game can be at each other's throats with such voracity. I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > mean, if push comes to shove, someone killfile someone else and be done > with it. That's the side note? Anyways, I was thinking and if not even the Raptors can find a place for Carl English then there isn't much chance of other teams doing so. Or are you merely lobbying for TO to sign him. chaliban , your post to alt.games.diablo is almost better than a suggestion to SIGN CARL ENGLISH! > <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > for Carl English then there isn't much chance of other teams doing so. > Or are you merely lobbying for TO to sign him. Yeah, pretty much. It's become more of a joke now anyway, the last thing the Raptors need right now is a 3pt chucker at the point. Maybe next eyar... > chaliban , your post to alt.games.diablo is almost better than a > suggestion [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > the Raptors need right now is a 3pt chucker at the point. Maybe next > eyar... There are two things certain to put me to sleep. One is my brother-in-law, who although he has nothing to say, says it without end, and in a monotone voice that could kill for miles. The other is professional basketball. I don't know when this happened exactly, but I suspect the 3 point shot had a lot to do with it. Mickey > There are two things certain to put me to sleep. One is my brother-in-law, > who although he has nothing to say, says it without end, and in a monotone [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Mickey Basketball games are really only 5 minutes long, they just loop the tape 20 times to fill in the time slot on TV. I'd like to see them issue pads and quit calling penalties. (Baseball is the one that loses me. If nothing exciting happens by the end of the first inning, I'm switching channels.) -- Zamboni >> There are two things certain to put me to sleep. One is my >> brother-in-law, who although he has nothing to say, says it without end, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 20 times to fill in the time slot on TV. I'd like to see them issue pads > and quit calling penalties. I love college hoops. They play defense, the listen to their coaches, and they actually CARE. > (Baseball is the one that loses me. If nothing exciting happens by the end > of the first inning, I'm switching channels.) Ah, baseball is about everything that happens BETWEEN pitches. Mickey > Virtual Den , your post to alt.games.diablo is almost better than a > suggestion to SIGN CARL ENGLISH! [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > mean, if push comes to shove, someone killfile someone else and be done > with it. Yeah, I know Chris. I had the little moron killfiled for ages. My gaming comp has gone haywire, and I can't figure out what it is, and so I am on this machine. He's back where he belongs, let him take all the cheap shots he wants to, my ego is not so fragile as to care. Mickey Isn't the date of that post prior to the arrival of the Insight stick? By about 1/2 year? I saw his necro the other night and it looked to me like a rabbi was walking around with him. Sometimes its hard to tell with all those skellies running around. :>) Orion > Isn't the date of that post prior to the arrival of the Insight stick? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Sometimes its hard to tell with all those skellies running around. :>) Not just any rabbi, he has an insight made in a superior, ethereal CV with a lvl 17 aura. Mickey Well that sure beats me zon's HF merc's superior, NON-ethereal CV with a lvl 17 aura. My prayer merc just kept dieing so much that the valk was spending more time swearing than fighting. Then again 40+ minions take a lot of heat off a rabbi whilst a valk and a decoy doesn't give the opposition a plethora of chioices. But boy oh boy if I can find me a barb merc with a prayer aura who can wield a rabbi stick I'd say that would be one son-of-a-bitchin' muscular rabbi, eh? :>) Orion > Well that sure beats me zon's HF merc's superior, NON-ethereal CV with > a lvl 17 aura. My prayer merc just kept dieing so much that the valk > was spending more time swearing than fighting. Then again 40+ minions > take a lot of heat off a rabbi whilst a valk and a decoy doesn't give > the opposition a plethora of chioices. That is exactly the case. For a rabbi to really work well, he needs some help. With the necro, the help comes in the form of 15-60 friends along for the ride. With the sorc, it comes in the form of a spike that stops things from hitting him. > But boy oh boy if I can find me a barb merc with a prayer aura who can > wield a rabbi stick I'd say that would be one son-of-a-bitchin' > muscular rabbi, eh? :>) Ever seen the barb merc that Tae has? I think he could beat up some player barbs :) Mickey Oh you talking about Bill? Bill the Barbarian? Yeah that Billy boy be swinging a might fast and mean stick. So aptly named too. Eth Upped Bing Sz Wang RICOCHET RABBIT!!! BING SZ WANG!!! Cartoons rule!! Orion > Oh you talking about Bill? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Cartoons rule!! Heh! When Tae told me that Bill had a big wang it took a while to acertain what she meant. ;-) We finally got it sorted though. Signature~misfit~ > Not just any rabbi, he has an insight made in a superior, ethereal CV with > a lvl 17 aura. I love ethereal CVs, though my fave is eth Cryptic Axe. > Mickey >> All this doesn't sound too friendly towards Mickey...? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Hmm? I just gave you the exact quote word for word from his post... > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.diablo/browse_frm/thread/2e0f59ed1aa93e b2/735e6e76ed894bcf?lnk=st&q=%22ye+olde+meatgrinder%22&rnum=3&hl=en#735e6e76ed89 4bcf So, are you an idiot or a liar, which is it, as one of these HAS to be the case. You are pointing to a post made in Feb of 2006, nearly 2 f.cking years and 3 patches ago and using that as evidence. Now either you are too stupid to figure out that Insight changed everything, or you are and are hoping no one else is, just as a means of taking a cheap shot at me. This is a binary condition, and either/or scenario, so I will ask you once, loud and clear so there is no mistake, are you a lying scumbag or just an idiot? Don't dodge the question, don't try to push more smoke up people's a.ses, and just answer the question. I bet you don't have the balls to do so. See, I will come right out and admit that I hate your guts, have thought you're a fool since your second post, and am enjoying this opportunity to show once again what a little turd you really are. Now, will you be a man, step to the plate and come clean, or will you plow more bullshit at us all. This I have just GOT to see. Mickey > >> All this doesn't sound too friendly towards Mickey...? > > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > and come clean, or will you plow more bullshit at us all. This I have just > GOT to see. In Shiflet's defence, the Mickey patented meatgrinder was the skellimancer with a barb merc (for reasons that Mickey has explained numerous times - i'm still not convinced btw ;)). Others used to refer to a skelimancer with a might merc as a fishymancer. And still others were referring to it as just a plain old skelimancer. Later, with the introduction of Insight Mickey changed from his patented barb merc to the Rabbi Insight Merc. Shiflet did mention that Mickey may have changed the build to include the Insight merc in his post, that sentence was snipped from Mickey's post. > In Shiflet's defence, the Mickey patented meatgrinder was the > skellimancer with a barb merc (for reasons that Mickey has explained > numerous times - i'm still not convinced btw ;)). Others used to refer > to a skelimancer with a might merc as a fishymancer. And still others > were referring to it as just a plain old skelimancer. The term Fishymancer was made popular in 1.10 (maybe earlier, I didn't play 1.09) by diinet users. Simply because the guide was posted by someone named Nightfish in the Single Player Forum in diinet. Diinet admins eventually moved it to the Strategy Page because it received enormous supports from SPF and Necro Forum users. Nightfish, who is as skillful as he is humble, never claimed he invented this build, never "patented" this build, or even calling it Fishymancer. It was the SPF users who first called it Fishymancer to honor him. Only on his later revisions he called the build Fishymancer. Nightfish provides excellent explanations on the advantage & disadvantage of subsequent skills (after all standard skills - SM, RS, CE have been acquired), as well as choices of merc. > > In Shiflet's defence, the Mickey patented meatgrinder was the > > skellimancer with a barb merc (for reasons that Mickey has explained [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > (after all standard skills - SM, RS, CE have been acquired), as well as > choices of merc. All true. I was just saying that a lot of people knew of the build etc. Similar to the way that some people call the lightning trapper the jrichard build (not only on dii). I don't think jrichard ever said he invented the build either. > So, are you an idiot or a liar, which is it, as one of these HAS to be the > case. You are pointing to a post made in Feb of 2006, nearly 2 f.cking > years and 3 patches ago Feb 2006? > and using that as evidence. Now either you are too stupid to figure out > that Insight changed everything, or you are and are hoping no one else is, > just as a means of taking a cheap shot at me. This is a binary condition, > and either/or scenario, so I will ask you once, loud and clear so there is > no mistake, are you a lying scumbag or just an idiot? Neither. Your build for ages relied on a barb merc. I noted you may have changed it when Insight come out(a fact you conveniently ommitted), but it doesn't change the fact that for YEARS you foolishly claimed a barb merc was better than an act 2 merc of any sort. > See, I will come right out and admit that I hate your guts, have thought > you're a fool since your second post, This is news? > and am enjoying this opportunity to show once again what a little turd you > really are. How's the car running these days? > Mickey >> So, are you an idiot or a liar, which is it, as one of these HAS to be >> the case. You are pointing to a post made in Feb of 2006, nearly 2 >> f.cking years and 3 patches ago > > Feb 2006? Ah, was this the BEST you could do, little boy, point out a typo when you know damn fcuking well the date of that post? How sad. >> and using that as evidence. Now either you are too stupid to figure out >> that Insight changed everything, or you are and are hoping no one else [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > doesn't change the fact that for YEARS you foolishly claimed a barb merc > was better than an act 2 merc of any sort. ROFL!!! Yes, so foolishly that I lead the ladder, 3 times (4 if you count the LoD beta), and you have done NOTHING, I repeat for the hearing impairs NDA< SQUAT, DIDLY to prove your point, other than follow behind me with a pissant necro and claim yours was a better build. Lead a ladder? sh.t you can't even PLAY the ladder, you hide on NL behind a stash of items. >> See, I will come right out and admit that I hate your guts, have thought >> you're a fool since your second post, > > This is news? Nope, not at all, as I am honest. You should give it a try some time, it would do you good and we'd all find it a refreshing change. >> and am enjoying this opportunity to show once again what a little turd >> you really are. > > How's the car running these days? It is not, and that is altogether irrelevant, isn't it. Best you could do, little boy? So, the verdict was as I predicted. You answered nothing, admitted nothing, and did what you do best, you ran away when confronted. No wonder you won't play the ladder. Mickey > ROFL!!! Yes, so foolishly that I lead the ladder, 3 times (4 if you count > the LoD beta), Leading the ladder means you either have no life and play for hours on end, or you bot. I don't believe you bot, but neither is a sign of skill. > other than follow behind me with a pissant necro and claim yours was a > better build. Lead a ladder? Yes, I am sorry Mickey, I devote time to things other than Diablo 2. I work, I go out with friends, I watch movies, play other games...you are right, I don't care to spend hours upon hours to lead the ladder. > sh.t you can't even PLAY the ladder, you hide on NL behind a stash of > items. I'll ask again, how many rangers did you get to hell using only gear found by that char? > Mickey >> ROFL!!! Yes, so foolishly that I lead the ladder, 3 times (4 if you count >> the LoD beta), > > Leading the ladder means you either have no life and play for hours on > end, or you bot. I don't believe you bot, but neither is a sign of skill. Or maybe I am just that good, eh? Or maybe you aren't, eh? Or maybe *I* can post a list of accomplishments as backup for my point of view, while all you can post is your opinion, based on ZERO evidence. ROFLMAO, you are one dumb little boy, aren't you? >> other than follow behind me with a pissant necro and claim yours was a >> better build. Lead a ladder? > > Yes, I am sorry Mickey, I devote time to things other than Diablo 2. I > work, I go out with friends, I watch movies, play other games...you are > right, I don't care to spend hours upon hours to lead the ladder. Yes, I work, I own my own business, I employ 18 people, I own 4 homes, 17 cars, 911 dogs, 13 cats and have 9 kids. I have seen every movie worth seeing, been places you've only seen on TV, and done things that would make you wet your little pants. The fact is, I am simply BETTER Than you are, I always have been, I always will be. The reason I am better is that I can do not one, but TWO things you are unable to do, due to the fact that you are SO BLOODY INSECURE. I can listen and I can take advice I started this ladder 8 weeks late, with no items, while on the **job** in Detroit, and yet I have a lvl 95 necro, 93 sorceress and 88 paladin. I have purchased no items, traded for no items, and yet here I am, once again doing FAR better than you. Do you know why, little boy? Has the little light gone on yet for you, or has that pea-sized ego once again obscured the truth from you eyes? If so, I'll make it clearer for you... I am a better player than you are. Yesterday, today and tomorrow. BTW, just in case you harbor any fantasies about it, I am also 10 times the PvP player you are. >> sh.t you can't even PLAY the ladder, you hide on NL behind a stash of >> items. > > I'll ask again, how many rangers did you get to hell using only gear found > by that char? Only 1. I was busy making level 99 with a barabain who did not use a SINGLE skill or stat point, and of course making level 99 with my naked necro. Now I will ask again, how many times have you lead the ladder? Better yet, how many times have you had a char that finished ANYWHERE on the ladder. For those still reading, I will remind you that I started this ladder 8 weeks late, I was working 65 hours a week in Detroit for Ford, and within 3 weeks, I drove a necro to the top 200 on the ladder. Mickey >> Mickey > Or maybe I am just that good, eh? I've played with many lvl 99's before, including a couple ladder leaders. Believe me, getting to 99 isn't a sign of skill. > Yes, I work, I own my own business, I employ 18 people, I own 4 homes, 17 > cars, 911 dogs, 13 cats and have 9 kids. I have seen every movie worth > seeing, been places you've only seen on TV, and done things that would > make you wet your little pants. Yes, I've heard all your stories. You are like a god amongst men, yet amazingly, you somehow have never managed to prove 90% of what you say. > I can listen and I can take advice I started this ladder 8 weeks late, > with no items, while on the **job** in Detroit, and yet I have a lvl 95 > necro, 93 sorceress and 88 paladin. Yes Mick, I know you devote an ungodly amount of time to this game, this is not news. > I am a better player than you are. No, you are simply a player who plays for hours upon hours whereas I do not. > Yesterday, today and tomorrow. BTW, just in case you harbor any fantasies > about it, I am also 10 times the PvP player you are. Would you care to put that to the test? > Only 1. Funny, last time I asked that it was 0. > I was busy making level 99 with a barabain who did not use a SINGLE skill > or stat point, Leeching isn't hard. > and of course making level 99 with my naked necro. See above, although a naked necro can still actually be effective. > Now I will ask again, how many times have you lead the ladder? Better yet, > how many times have you had a char that finished ANYWHERE on the ladder. And I will ask again, how is playing more than any normal human a skill? > Mickey >> Or maybe I am just that good, eh? > > I've played with many lvl 99's before, including a couple ladder leaders. > Believe me, getting to 99 isn't a sign of skill. Yes yes, we know.... nothing anyone else does is a sign of skill. The only sign of skill is what you have done. BTW, what HAVE You done, other than tell OTHER that their accomplishments meant nothing. How droll. >> Yes, I work, I own my own business, I employ 18 people, I own 4 homes, 17 >> cars, 911 dogs, 13 cats and have 9 kids. I have seen every movie worth [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Yes, I've heard all your stories. You are like a god amongst men, yet > amazingly, you somehow have never managed to prove 90% of what you say. ROFL!!! Right, the fact that I am I here al the time, posting and playing from the same IP for months in a row, while waiting for the urge to work to hit me means nothing, right? I mean, everyone can afford to take 4-6 months off when they feel like it, or 4.5 years off like I did when D2 first came out. And of course the fact that Frank, who had no hidden agendas other than the truth was theone who told this 'story' first. Had it not been for his post about my 9 figure stock account, not one of you would have ever known. BTW, I am not require to post proof about facts of my personal life divulged by others, not even by what passes for logic in warped minds such as yours. >> I can listen and I can take advice I started this ladder 8 weeks late, >> with no items, while on the **job** in Detroit, and yet I have a lvl 95 >> necro, 93 sorceress and 88 paladin. > > Yes Mick, I know you devote an ungodly amount of time to this game, this > is not news. Ungodly amounf of time? While working 60 hours a week? While having to tend to things I never have to around the house, like cooking, shopping, cleaning, and doing my laundry. How many hours in a week where you live? Here, we only have a mere 168. You know, one would think that someone who has shoved his foot down his own mouth as often as you have, in this ONE thread alone would learn to shut up, but only if one hasn't dealt with you before. >> I am a better player than you are. > > No, you are simply a player who plays for hours upon hours whereas I do > not. A reply based on a now TOTALLY discredited claim. Wanna try and make a fool of yourself again, concede that I am a better player than you, repeat this bullshit, or lie again? See, this time I gave you 4 choices, as it seems that when I gave you two, you RAN AWAY and refused to reply. Let's see how you do THIS time. >> Yesterday, today and tomorrow. BTW, just in case you harbor any fantasies >> about it, I am also 10 times the PvP player you are. > > Would you care to put that to the test? Where, in your little non-ladder, I have items from 1.08 world? Nah, I'll take a pass. Besides which, you aren't even in the same league as Zilth, DysenteryBob or Skee:Daddle. >> Only 1. > > Funny, last time I asked that it was 0. No, last time I ignored the point. You can look at the screenshot of the 99s and see him. He also used a sword as backup for PIs. >> I was busy making level 99 with a barabain who did not use a SINGLE skill >> or stat point, > > Leeching isn't hard. You should know, but then again, if you ever actually PLAYED with our crew, played with the AGD folks instead of just hanging around here being the adolescent irritant that you are, you'd know just how foolish this statement is. You'd know that far from EVER leeching, I allow others to leech off of me. You'd know that I am such an impatient player that I run out ahead of all the melee chars with my casters and would never be able to leech my way to 99, and you'd have seen him in action. But why bother doing any of that, when you can just make a comment like tha above, offer ZERO in the way of eivdence to coroborate it, and convince yourself you've made a witty retort. You haven't. >> and of course making level 99 with my naked necro. > > See above, although a naked necro can still actually be effective. See the above, as you've now made an idiot of yourself TWICE. Well, not JUST twice, but twice on THIS topic. >> Now I will ask again, how many times have you lead the ladder? Better >> yet, how many times have you had a char that finished ANYWHERE on the >> ladder. > > And I will ask again, how is playing more than any normal human a skill? And I will reply again, prove I have played more this ladder. Put up, or shut up. Tell us all how I played so much while working 60 hours a week and living alone. Tell us, as I am sure there are others who'd like to know. I won't even ask you to account for the time I spent in the casinos in Detroit, something I even documented here. Do it, shut up, or do as you usually do and ignore the challenge and run away. Mickey >>> Or maybe I am just that good, eh? >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > other than tell OTHER that their accomplishments meant nothing. How > droll. To be fair Mickey I must point out that Shiflet gave me some excellent advice on Pallys a while back that has stood me in good stead. Insightful and valuable advice that no one else here seemed able to offer. Or at least they didn't offer it at the time. Signature~misfit~ >>>> Or maybe I am just that good, eh? >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and valuable advice that no one else here seemed able to offer. Or at > least they didn't offer it at the time. That isn't the point. The point is that ONLY his advice carries any weight. Everyone else is a pretender. Mickey > Yes yes, we know.... nothing anyone else does is a sign of skill. The only > sign of skill is what you have done. BTW, what HAVE You done, other than > tell OTHER that their accomplishments meant nothing. How droll. I haven't said any of what I've done takes skill. Having a high level summoner or paladin doesn't require skill, just patience(the higher the level, the more the patience). Beating players in PvP doesn't usually require a ton of skill either. > ROFL!!! Right, the fact that I am I here al the time, posting and playing > from the same IP for months in a row, while waiting for the urge to work > to hit me means nothing, right? Maybe your wife supports you. Maybe you're just a bum who sits on his a.s all day long. I hate to say I know people like that, but... > BTW, I am not require to post proof about facts of my personal life > divulged by others, . Of course not. > Ungodly amounf of time? While working 60 hours a week? Which is it, working 60 hours a week or taking 4-5 months off and doing jack sh.t? > While having to tend to things I never have to around the house, like > cooking, shopping, cleaning, and doing my laundry. A real man of the house! > A reply based on a now TOTALLY discredited claim. Everyone here knows that even in efficiently run teams it takes hours upon hours to reach 99, so you simply cannot argue that with any attempt at seriousness. So no, nothing has been totally discredited, please try again. > you RAN AWAY and refused to reply. Let's see how you do THIS time. I did reply, is reading not your strong suit? >> Would you care to put that to the test? > > Where, in your little non-ladder, I have items from 1.08 world? Nah, I'll > take a pass. Besides which, you aren't even in the same league as Zilth, > DysenteryBob or Skee:Daddle. Of COURSE you'll take a pass, cause that would require you to back your bullshit up, something you're notorious for NOT doing. I have no items from .08, whereas you have every item in the game, remember? Surely you could muster up some decent gear, besides, being such a better PvP player than me you should be able to handle me even without that uber 08 gear that I don't actually have. I mean, my PvP paladin uses such hard to get gear as a Duress armor, shako, and Gores. The most expensive items on him are the eth Lacerators and the upped HoZ. Surely someone with dozens of 99's and every item in the game should be able to match THAT with no problem. But you won't, which should come as no surprise to anyone here. > You should know, but then again, if you ever actually PLAYED with our > crew, played with the AGD folks instead of just hanging around here being > the adolescent irritant that you are, you'd know just how foolish this > statement is. You'd know that far from EVER leeching, I know you don't normally leech, I also know playing a no-stat, no-skill barb means you're not going to be contributing much to the kill speed of the team either, even if you ARE up there swinging away. > And I will reply again, prove I have played more this ladder. Put up, or > shut up. Tell us all how I played so much while working 60 hours a week > and living alone. You assume I take your word for it about working 60 hours a week for starters. You're always telling what you do, and what you're capable of doing, yet you always avoid it when I ask for proof. Of course, it's because you don't have to answer to people like me, rather than because you can't, but I guess we just have to take your word on that. > Mickey > I mean, my PvP > paladin uses such hard to get gear as a Duress armor, shako, and > Gores. The most expensive items on him are the eth Lacerators and the > upped HoZ. Did you give him the upped Gores I passed on at the end of the last ladder? Or did he already have some? Signature~misfit~ > Did you give him the upped Gores I passed on at the end of the last > ladder? Or did he already have some? Nah, the def increase wasn't enough to matter...plus, the upped Gores are being saved for a kicker, where the upped kick damage DOES matter, heh. > Yes, I work, I own my own business, I employ 18 people, I own 4 homes, 17 > cars, 911 dogs, 13 cats and have 9 kids. I have seen every movie worth > seeing, been places you've only seen on TV, and done things that would > make you wet your little pants. BTW, it's funny how I'm the one who has a big "ego", yet this is like the 897th time you've posted comments like the above on this group. Of course, I'm still waiting for proof on about 90% of the claims you make, but I suspect I will continue waiting. >> Yes, I work, I own my own business, I employ 18 people, I own 4 homes, 17 >> cars, 911 dogs, 13 cats and have 9 kids. I have seen every movie worth [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > BTW, it's funny how I'm the one who has a big "ego", yet this is like the > 897th time you've posted comments like the above on this group. Yes, and funny that it is the 896th time I have been attacked by you and your ilk and had to. You will note the discrepancy there? The other time, it was Frank who posted it. > Of course, I'm still waiting for proof on about 90% of the claims you > make, but I suspect I will continue waiting. I answered this before, ignore it if you wish, do not expect that others will do so also. You see, much as it may pain you to accept this, most of the world is smarter than you are, and can see through this lame attempt of yours to smear me. 90% of what I say, eh? Nice nebulous bullshit, no specifics, just bullshit. In any case, I won't subject the group to any more of this, you're back in the killfile. I took you out because for a while, you simulated civilized behavior. Sadly, a savage can only act civilized for a short period of time before it reverts to its natural tendencies. You simply could NOT stand the fact that someone asked me a question. I hadn't even replied yet when you launched your attack, something that I am sure did not go unnoticed by the majority of readers here. Fool yourself if you want to, but my credibility here will NEVER be damaged by the likes of you. Mickey > > Yes, I work, I own my own business, I employ 18 people, I own 4 homes, 17 > > cars, 911 dogs, 13 cats and have 9 kids. I have seen every movie worth [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Of course, I'm still waiting for proof on about 90% of the claims you make, > but I suspect I will continue waiting. You better be careful, he has so much stock in Comcast he can get you thrown off of here(yes he actually said that to someone once). I believe he said that to me...LOL. The guy makes millions a year taking time off but working 140 hours a week with 25 kids. He cooks and cleans and shops yet still has time to take 4 or 5 characters to level 99. HOW DARE YOU QUESTION GOD HIMSELF. You have to hand it to him though, his fantasy world is really nice. >> > Yes, I work, I own my own business, I employ 18 people, I own 4 homes, >> > 17 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > thrown off of here(yes he actually said that to someone once). I > believe he said that to me...LOL. Did I now? Then you should have NO trouble posting a link to it, eh? See, now I won't beat around the bush like you and your sock puppet do, I will come right out and call you a bald faced liar, and DARE you to post a link to anywhere where I threatened to have someone kicked off Comcast. You get ONE shot, and then into the kill file you go. BTW, I note the monstrous number of ON topic posts you have made to this group, your last post being this past September. In looking back I note you NEVER post anything on topic to the game but rather sit around waiting for a chance to take a shot at me or one or 2 other regular posters. It is obvious that you feel intimidated by these posters, and small in comparison. Come to think of it, f.ck the one shot, you have nothing of value to offer. I will leave it to others to judge the veracity of the 'proof' you post to my challenge. Mickey oh yeah, before I forget.... PLONK >>> > Yes, I work, I own my own business, I employ 18 people, I own 4 homes, >>> > 17 [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > oh yeah, before I forget.... PLONK Correction, the last post was Sept. 2004. Also please all note that 3 of the last 4 post Walt has made to this group oddly have my name in the subject line. Anyone around here smell a fixation? http://groups.google.com/groups?q=group%3Aalt.games.diablo+author%3Apegasuskid%4 0earthlink.net&start=0&scoring=d&num=10&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_mind=1&as_minm=1& as_miny=1981&as_maxd=25&as_maxm=1&as_maxy=2006&safe=off& Mickey LOL a fixation. Please. You're not that special. I just like to pop in every once in a great while and take a shot at a pathetic loser like yourself. Besides this is what you like right? Attention whores love attention. > LOL a fixation. > > Please. You're not that special. I just like to pop in every once in a > great while and take a shot at a pathetic loser like yourself. > > Besides this is what you like right? Attention whores love attention. Who dis? Sounds like someone who knows what whores like. Signature~misfit~ >> LOL a fixation. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Who dis? Sounds like someone who knows what whores like. Nah, whores serve a purpose, on some level. This piece of human feces is just a common troll, and one without much talent at that. Mickey > LOL a fixation. > > Please. You're not that special. I just like to pop in every once in a > great while and take a shot at a pathetic loser like yourself. That's called being a troll, and will land you in everyone's killfiles. Signature-- "I hope you don't object to my badgering the witless!" EvilBill - http://www.evilbill.org.uk yahoo: evilbill_agqx >> LOL a fixation. >> >> Please. You're not that special. I just like to pop in every once in a >> great while and take a shot at a pathetic loser like yourself. > > That's called being a troll, and will land you in everyone's killfiles. A POOR troll, as he fails to incite the flame war that a good troll can. He's a stalker, and one without a whit of talent. Mickey >> You better be careful, he has so much stock in Comcast he can get you >> thrown off of here(yes he actually said that to someone once). I >> believe he said that to me...LOL. > > Did I now? Then you should have NO trouble posting a link to it, eh? He may be misremembering this post: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.diablo/msg/8830bd4518cbef4a RelMark >>> You better be careful, he has so much stock in Comcast he can get you >>> thrown off of here(yes he actually said that to someone once). I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > He may be misremembering this post: > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.diablo/msg/8830bd4518cbef4a At the time, that was true. I have since sold of a large portion of my position in Comcast. The real point is that this idiot ONLY posts to flame me. Look at he like I provided and you will see that. Mickey > >>> You better be careful, he has so much stock in Comcast he can get you > >>> thrown off of here(yes he actually said that to someone once). I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > position in Comcast. The real point is that this idiot ONLY posts to flame > me. Look at he like I provided and you will see that. While I was looking up that post in Google, I did notice that he had a rather high flame-to-on-topic ratio. RelMark >> >>> You better be careful, he has so much stock in Comcast he can get you >> >>> thrown off of here(yes he actually said that to someone once). I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > While I was looking up that post in Google, I did notice > that he had a rather high flame-to-on-topic ratio. Given that this was his first post in 15 months, and given the nature of it, I'd say he fully qualifies as a troll. Mickey >>> and using that as evidence. Now either you are too stupid to figure out >>> that Insight changed everything, or you are and are hoping no one else >>> is, just as a means of taking a cheap shot at me. This is a binary >>> condition, and either/or scenario, so I will ask you once, loud and >>> clear so there is no mistake, are you a lying scumbag or just an idiot? >> Neither. Your build for ages relied on a barb merc. I noted you may have >> changed it when Insight come out(a fact you conveniently ommitted), but [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > pissant necro and claim yours was a better build. Lead a ladder? sh.t you > can't even PLAY the ladder, you hide on NL behind a stash of items. What is about leading the ladder have to do about someone saying what a lot of people should tell you? Sorry, the barb merc sucks and you also max Bone Spirit in a previous version of your "Patented Necro" which I will call "Pretentious Necro". So you agree with me that Max BS sucks without cynergies since we had a fight over it in the previous ladder. Does I have a right on your patented Necro? ;oP VD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Vervoorn" <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> Newsgroups: alt.games.diablo Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Mickeys Meatgrinder >>>Mickey: Once you mentioned your "patented meatgrinder necro" >> >>Heh, patented. Keep in mind, his "patented" build is basically the same Ah, what Shitless MEANT to say is taht the build I made, lo those many ages ago, and which has stood up to every nerf blizzard has thrown at it is NOW the cookie cutter build. I guess I _should_ thanks him, but somehow I dinna think this was his intent. > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > All this doesn't sound too friendly towards Mickey...? And this is news around here? > Anyway, I think you're mistaken: Mickey has always promoted the Merc type > he prefers most on a Meatgrinder, a "Rabbi" merc. This is his term for an [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > speeded up. It's an interesting idea, and will continually heal the bone > army. Yes, since 1.10. Prior to 1.10, I prefered aq barb merc because the AI on the act 2 merc was so bad that by the time he arrived at the scene of the crime, even the cops had left, whereas the barb merc ran 3 times as fast, ran out ahead of the char, and produced a corpse faster. > Personally, I also prefer a Might merc, with an Insight polearm: Might > merc himself deals more damage, the skellies also do, resulting in the > first body sooner, so the CE-chain can be started. Meditation is, however, > very nice to have, because a Maxed CE (which is what I use) consumes a > _LOT_ of mana. Yes it does, and so does raising 60 minions, and I don't want to have to put points in energy. The first rule of leveling up is not to die. Every point I have to put in energy is one less point I can put in vitality, and makes me that much more vulnerable. Me, I kind of like having 2k life on a necro. > Be careful when going for the Bone spells: Bone Spirit can be maxed, but > after that, consider putting 1 point in Bone Armor, and then putting > subsequent points in Bone Wall or Bone Prison: they synergize the Bone > Spirit, but also provide a better boost to Bone Armor than putting points > directly in Bone Armor. I find bone armor to be more or less useless. Oh, I have one, I raise it, but I can't think of a time it ever saved me. My armor has legs and walks around looking for something to hit. Mickey > Ah, what Shitless MEANT to say is taht the build I made, lo those many > ages > ago, and which has stood up to every nerf blizzard has thrown at it is NOW > the cookie cutter build. I guess I _should_ thanks him, but somehow I > dinna > think this was his intent. That build has BEEN cookie cutter for years, it's not a new build by any regards. Ne |
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