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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / Diablo / November 2005Act 5 switch?
Ok, I've heard about this 'switch' in SP to start a character in act 5 at level 35 (?) with all sta and skill points unallocated. Just how do I go about using this switch? I'm running XP Pro and have never used a 'switch' before. S'cuse my noobness. Thanks.  Signature~misfit~ > Ok, I've heard about this 'switch' in SP to start a character in act 5 at > level 35 (?) with all sta and skill points unallocated. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks. In your shortcut to startup diablo, change (e.g.) "C:\path\to\diablo II.exe" to "C:\path\to\diablo II.exe" -act5 NOTE there is a space between the close-quote and the minus/hyphen. >> Ok, I've heard about this 'switch' in SP to start a character in act >> 5 at level 35 (?) with all sta and skill points unallocated. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "C:\path\to\diablo II.exe" -act5 > NOTE there is a space between the close-quote and the minus/hyphen. Thanks. Signature~misfit~ > In your shortcut to startup diablo, change (e.g.) > "C:\path\to\diablo II.exe" > to > "C:\path\to\diablo II.exe" -act5 > NOTE there is a space between the close-quote and the minus/hyphen. You can do the same for any act from 2-5 to skip forward to the corresponding act. Just put the desired act number in as Brian has explained. Regards- Mark Bongo-Fury "Brian" <brian.brunner@verizon.net.prophet> kirjoitti viestissä:pan.2005.11.26.00.24.52.236571@verizon.net.prophet... >> Ok, I've heard about this 'switch' in SP to start a character in act 5 at >> level 35 (?) with all sta and skill points unallocated. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > "C:\path\to\diablo II.exe" -act5 > NOTE there is a space between the close-quote and the minus/hyphen. One question: Is this "switch" meant to work?? I tried this too, but it didn't work in my 1.11 LoD.. Or is it only for non-exp?? :( -- FIN-Meta @ battle.net -- > "Brian" <brian.brunner@verizon.net.prophet> kirjoitti > viestissä:pan.2005.11.26.00.24.52.236571@verizon.net.prophet... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > One question: Is this "switch" meant to work?? I tried this too, but > it didn't work in my 1.11 LoD.. Or is it only for non-exp?? :( It should work just fine in single player. It did for me after I tried it with the info in this thread. LOD 1.11b "C:\program files\diablo II\diablo II.exe" -act5 How can it be for non exp when there is no act 5 in non exp? :-) Signature~misfit~ >In your shortcut to startup diablo, change (e.g.) >"C:\path\to\diablo II.exe" >to >"C:\path\to\diablo II.exe" -act5 >NOTE there is a space between the close-quote and the minus/hyphen. Is this the one that makes you level 35 but leaves you without a single waypoint in any act, and no quests completed? What is the point of it, exactly, if that's the case? > Is this the one that makes you level 35 but leaves you without a single > waypoint in any act, and no quests completed? Yes. > What is the point of it, exactly, if that's the case? If nothing else, to experiment with different builds a bit. Whether 'tis nobler to go summoning or bone - fire or ice - traps or martial arts - pick your poison and check out how you like the way it handles on the curves and straightaways. You are - or should be - 'strong' enough that you could go forward, sort of a sp rush, but you would miss the bonuses from completing the quests you bypass. Or, it is a built in 'cheat' for those that have trouble at the beginning of the game, the Blood Moor, Den of Evil, Tristram, etc. tend to be pretty easy when you are that level. (but boring then) SignatureWe apologize for the inconvenience >If nothing else, to experiment with different builds a bit. Whether 'tis >nobler to go summoning or bone - fire or ice - traps or martial arts - [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >of the game, the Blood Moor, Den of Evil, Tristram, etc. tend to be pretty >easy when you are that level. (but boring then) What I've always wondered if people are going to use such a switch to skip content, why not just go the whole hog and use an editor to give the character waypoints and gear to go with the level 35 tag. Seems kind of a half assed way of doing things, really, IMO. :-) Oh well, to each his own. When I want to experiment with a build, I use an editor, and when I want to PLAY a character... I start at level 1. > What I've always wondered if people are going to use such a switch to > skip content, why not just go the whole hog and use an editor ... Is there an editor out that works with 1.11? If so could you please give me a link? Regards- Mark Bongo-Fury >Is there an editor out that works with 1.11? If so could you please give me >a link? Zonfire has always worked for me in 1.11. Unfortunately I don't have a link handy though. "Stephen van Ham" <svanham@xtra.co.nz> kirjoitti viestissä:1133132940.396551.63500@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >Is there an editor out that works with 1.11? If so could you please give > >me >>a link? > > Zonfire has always worked for me in 1.11. Unfortunately I don't have > a link handy though. http://d2event.net/index.php?id=editors check that link... there's one click more and you're downloading Hero Editor 0.90 beta.. Should work with 1.11.. I used 0.80 with 1.10 to test different skill combis against bosses, so it's just for test, not to cheat when I use that prog... =) I don't like to "cheat" when playing, just testing... -- FIN-Meta @ battle.net -- >http://d2event.net/index.php?id=editors >check that link... there's one click more and you're downloading Hero Editor >0.90 beta.. Should work with 1.11.. I used 0.80 with 1.10 to test different >skill combis against bosses, so it's just for test, not to cheat when I use >that prog... =) That's the one. Zonfire Hero Editor. Interesting that the page there says 0.80 only works with 1.10 and earlier... 0.80 is the version I've used without problems in 1.11. But maybe it's a question of the 1.11 specific uber giblets. >I don't like to "cheat" when playing, just testing... Sure, I'm a big fan of calling a spade a spade. :-) > >In your shortcut to startup diablo, change (e.g.) > >"C:\path\to\diablo II.exe" [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > What is the point of it, exactly, if that's the case? To test character strength, as it was a testing tool left over from back when. Mickey >To test character strength, as it was a testing tool left over from back >when. Hehe. Funny how it only takes one as far as act 5 normal, and we long had complaints about balancing in nightmare and hell difficulty. :-) > >To test character strength, as it was a testing tool left over from back > >when. > > Hehe. Funny how it only takes one as far as act 5 normal, and we long > had complaints about balancing in nightmare and hell difficulty. :-) Exactly. Then again, Blizzard has made no effort to obscure the fact that they test ONLY in normal mode. Their testing is simply the worst in the industry, which goes back to my reply to the last post, that being that PAYING to play bugs is just not in my makeup. Mickey > > >To test character strength, as it was a testing tool left over from back > > >when. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > industry, which goes back to my reply to the last post, that being that > PAYING to play bugs is just not in my makeup. Indeed, if I was a Blizzard tester I'd probably completely skip Normal considering there's next to nothing that can one-hit-kill you there (unless you're doing high physical damage around OKs in which case it's your own damn fault for not being more careful ;) ) Signature-- EvilBill - http://www.evilbill.org.uk > Mickey > > > >To test character strength, as it was a testing tool left over from > back [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > you're doing high physical damage around OKs in which case it's your own > damn fault for not being more careful ;) ) This is a place you REALLY don't want me going. Although, after 34 years in the IT business, I have worn just about every hat there is, my forte was ALWAYS testing. Those who can hearken back to the days of D1 and its mods will also recall that these mods were generally rife with bugs, many carried over from Blizzard's code, many introduced by the mod maker.... EXCEPT NetherWorld, which not only was bug free, but which fixed several of the Blizzard produced bugs as well. Only in the mind of a TOTAL and COMPLETE idiot would coding an ENTIRE game first and THEN starting testing seem viable. Among NORMAL people, people who have a clue, the process is done incrementally. You build the shell of the product, enough to make it come up running, and then you add a feature, test the feature, go back and test any OTHER features, and if everything is OK, you lock the code down and add something new. You test after EVERY change, you test that change, you test everything else and you MAY have a product that is relatively bug free. Of course, Blizzard isn't just stupid as a cue ball when it comes to creating games, they are just as stupid when updating them. Blizzard's idea of a patch is to 'fix' 10,000 problems at once. Of course, when something NEW goes wrong, finding out what caused it, in that environment, is nearly impossible. Take, for example, Westwood's method of patching games. If they have 5 reported bugs, they release 5 small patches, one after the next. If a fix creates a new bug, it is a matter of seconds to find out which fix and why and to correct it. I purchased C&C Generals about 6 weeks after its release. When I logged on to WWOL (WestWood Online), the game immediately downloaded a patch. The version I had on my CD was 1.0, the version I had after the patch was 1.18, and the game has not been patched since. The best thing that could happen to Diablo players would be that EA buys Blizzard, as they seem to understand the program life cycle. Mickey "Mickey" wrote... > This is a place you REALLY don't want me going. Although, after 34 years > in [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > as > they seem to understand the program life cycle. I think you're being overly harsh on Blizzard. Perhaps my expectations are lower than yours, because I migrated to the World of Diablo from the Dungeons of Moria. Nevertheless, I see a mighty fine product in the game that I play, considering what I paid for it. The game alone is outstanding, despite its flaws, and was well worth the money. Also, the investment of resources on their part that allows us to securely play online for free will be the last of that kind of benevolence we may ever see from any company. So there are bugs and flaws. Not very many, considering the scope and complexity of the project, as well as the expenditure of resources diverted to realm security. I do have complaints. I, too, am annoyed and frustrated that the security code can't seem to differentiate between a live human being and a bot when it decides to temporarily restrict me from the realm for simply muling. When I had less experience with the character class, I was upset that Hell difficulty seemed impossible for a sorceress to go solo. But since then, I have learned to adapt. I am more careful muling. I have learned to battle monsters that used to swat me down with impunity, in the process recognizing that it is not a game in which simply achieving a high level guarantees one's ability to smash opponents, and I really see that as a good thing. You have to truly become a student of the game, and learn about the world and its bestiary in order to overcome its travails. Blizzard has created a richly layered game of a depth and complexity that astonishes me, and after all the time of playing, I still find new things and aspects. Air your complaints, yes. But they do deserve some credit, too. > "Mickey" wrote... > > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > Air your complaints, yes. But they do deserve some credit, too. Credit which I have given them. As far as conceptualization, Blizzard is terrific. As to implementation of the concept, they simply stink on ice. Then again, this is systemic in the PC field. If I had EVER, in my 34+ years in the field, turned over a product as badly bugged as Diablo, or for that matter any version of Windows, I'd have been out on my a.s in 90 seconds looking for a job. In my neck of the IT field, ONE bug is a major issue. In the PC arena, 2000 are considered acceptable. Of course, even by PC standards, Blizzard turns out pure sh.t far too often. The fact that they REFUSE to test their own products is, from a rational point of view, simply absurd beyond the pale. Mickey After going to <http://tinyurl.com/2tnqw> >"Brian Kastel" <be-ar-eye-ay-en-kay-ay-ess-tee-ee-ell@tampabay.rr.com> wrote >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >REFUSE to test their own products is, from a rational point of view, simply >absurd beyond the pale. Even *I* test my mod in all difficulties. :) Of course, I'm also the one making all the changes, not that it should matter since I'm only changing a few txt files and a few maps, which aren't that hard to test because I know what I'm changing. Not that anybody cares, but I did just upload a new version of my mod. -- no, i didn't forget the 'F's http://www.geocities.com/jerk_o2002 http://www.geocities.com/nameless_mod -My Diablo 2 Mod http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/bunny.php -My theme song >> "Mickey" wrote... >> I think you're being overly harsh on Blizzard. I think I agree with Mickey... the summary I'd give is that GREAT is the most effective enemy OUTSTANDING ever met. >> Air your complaints, yes. But they do deserve some credit, too. > Credit which I have given them. As far as conceptualization, Blizzard is > terrific. As to implementation of the concept, they simply stink on ice. > Then again, this is systemic in the PC field. If I had EVER, in my 34+ > years in the field, turned over a product as badly bugged as Diablo, or > for that matter any version of Windows, I'd have been out on my a.s in > 90 seconds looking for a job. Simple: work for Microsoft! Failure is not an option, it comes bundled! "Brian" <brian.brunner@verizon.net.prophet> wrote... > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I think I agree with Mickey... the summary I'd give is that GREAT is the > most effective enemy OUTSTANDING ever met. Well then you should expect to pay for great. "Great. Bug Free. Cheap. Pick any two." >>> Air your complaints, yes. But they do deserve some credit, too. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Simple: work for Microsoft! Failure is not an option, it comes bundled! Now that is hilarious. :) > "Brian" <brian.brunner@verizon.net.prophet> wrote... > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Well then you should expect to pay for great. "Great. Bug Free. Cheap. Pick > any two." Why? Since when has life come down to a choice between price or quality, and in any case, software is hardly cheap. One will note that software houses have the highest profit margins of any major industry on earth. Can ANYONE imagtine what it would be like if say GM were to operate at a 25% profit margin, like Microsoft? Furthermore, PC software, on a per user basis, is actually FAR more expensive than mainframe software, and ye the mainframe software as .000000000001% of the bugs. Why? Oh, that answer is VERY simple. In the mainframe arena, you sell software to IT people, who wouldn't let you in the door with a product as piss poor as either Windows or LoD. In the PC arena, you sell software to end users who are clueless about what their expectations SHOULD be. In essense, it is little different from stealing candy from children, only the candy costs $50 for the tasty kind (games), and $200-$500 for the nutritious kind (Windows, Office, etc). > >>> Air your complaints, yes. But they do deserve some credit, too. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Now that is hilarious. :) We mainframers consider Windows to be a virus, cleverly disguised as an operating system. Mickey >>In your shortcut to startup diablo, change (e.g.) >>"C:\path\to\diablo II.exe" [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > What is the point of it, exactly, if that's the case? If you look into the ChaosEmpire mod, in single play, the -act5 switch puts you at level 95 or 96. Still without waypoints, quests, gear, or money, but we need things to do or we go soft in the gut... and brain... You got me my friend, first time I have heard of it. Sounds interesting though. -- Oompa Loompas have tiny hands, tiny hands make me woozy. ';)x--- |
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