Unless, of course, it is ethereal, in which case it is a VERY nice item
indeed.

Mickey

Brian <brian.brunner@verizon.net.prophet> kirjoitti:

The difference between a 6 frame attack (= 30 IAS) and a 5 frame
attack (= 65 IAS) will be 20 % more damage with the faster speed
(damage per time is of course inversely proportional to the delay
between attacks; 6/5 = 1.2). An Ort rune would give you 25 average
damage per hit, so the rule is simple: if your damage is currently
higher than 125, the Shael gives more damage, if your damage is lower
than 125, the Ort gives more damage (20 % of 125 = 25, so if your
average damage is 125, you get the same bonus from both). If your
damage is much lower than 125 (not possible with the Ginther, of
course), the Ort rune is much better; if your damage is much higher
than 125 (which a HF pally should easily have in late NM), the Shael
rune is much better. For example, if you are doing about 500 damage
per hit, the Ort rune will only add 5 % more damage - but the speed
increase will always give 20 % more damage. (If you do 1000 damage per
hit, the Ort gives only 2.5 % more damage. And so on.)

With the Ginther's and Holy Freeze, you're already certain to do more
damage per hit than 125 and there is no physical immune problem until
Hell (where an Ort rune as a damage source will be mostly useless), in
fact with HF and the GR your character will have no immune/resistance
problems for a long time. Therefore, it is clearly much better to use
the Shael, if only you can get the extra IAS from somewhere else (and
if you don't have any such equipment, gamble gloves with a reasonably
high-level character).

Generally, the faster the weapon, the bigger the boost in increasing
the speed further by a frame is. Ginther's is already fairly fast and
benefits a *lot* from a further boost.

If you have runes like Ohm, you can make many much, *much* better
weapons (a Call to Arms - takes only Ohm as the really hard rune -
would actually be a better fighting weapon!). Even runes like Pul and
Mal let you make some much better weapons, such as Oath with precisely
those runes (not necessarily easy to get the perfect base weapon for
it, though) or if you have an Um from between those, Crescent Moon (in
a phase blade that would be very nice for a HF pally, who benefits a
lot from speed and ITD).

Nah, I'm pretty poor still. About the best I can manage is either Shael
or elemental damage. I DO have a few higher level runes, but they're
nothing useful for a weapon.

Regards,
Jamie Kahn Genet"