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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / Diablo / August 2005New AGD (West SCL) players pls read
There seems to be new faces in the WSCL AGD games. No, not just new to me, I have asked several old-timers and they do not recognize these new faces either. If you just join the AGD, welcome! :) It is a good idea for you to introduce yourself. The same with those who have joined for some time but never really introduce self. This way, we'll know who you are and know what to call you. Wouldn't you prefer, "Hey Ann/Bob/Chad/Donna/Etc, do you want this +1 orb?" instead of, "Hey sorc, want a +1 stick?" If you create a post, that's great. Let us know your name (some people use account names, real names, or just made up names, whatever it is to let us address you), your account name (if different than your posting name), your current active characters, and which server/mode you are playing on. Note that most people in alt.games.diablo play in the USWest server, Softcore Ladder. Don't forget to check our neighbor at alt.games.diablo2 if you are playing in a realm/mode that is not popular here. If you don't wish to create a post, then please introduce yourself when you join a game. Again, be it your real name, made up name, or your account name. The next time you join a game, you may want to introduce yourself again, so people will remember who you are. The following thread is useful regarding "item & muling rules" in agd/agd game. http://tinyurl.com/6jxe9 We are generally friendly and generous to strangers. We are likely to give free items to anyone even if we don't know them. We are MUCH MORE likely to give free items if we KNOW you. We have a communal mule, of which the items are available to anyone who plays in AGD West SCL games. Ok the items in the communal mule are still crappy, but it will get better later on. Mid of last season, it was not uncommon to find things like Mavina armor, Trang belt, Eschuta's, etc. One etiquette you must observe is some of us do NOT like beggars, don't go to AGD games and say, "Anyone got any free items for me?" "Can you rush me sorc?" If you must ask for help, address it politely, for example, "Would you happen to have an extra armor that is better than my Isenhart?" "Any chance you can give me the Travincal WP?" "Could you help me with my Ancient please?" People here are VERY likely to help you if you ask them politely AND if they know you. If you are playing a co-op game, there is not quite a fixed rule regarding item sharing. Usually whomever needs it most gets to keep it. When more than one person needs it, then other people have different opinions on deciding who should keep it, some believe the quester, some believe the rusher, some believe the one with most MF, some believe the one who delivered the last hit, and *very few* believe whomever picked it up the fastest. Finally, most of us do not condone the use of any third party programs. Asking about any of them will get you flames at best. One exception is the ATMA muling program for single player. Several people (including myself) tolerate others who use Maphack, but if you do use one, please keep it to yourself, just quietly pick the path at Arcane and there is no need to brag that you know EXACTLY where Summoner is. Other 3rd party programs, as far as I know, are frowned upon and not welcomed in our games. I'm Alice, account name *VioletStar, currently playing an Orb-Ball sorceress. Good luck and have fun :) P.S. If you don't already know, our game names are: Difficulty: name/pass Normal : agd/agd, agd2/agd, agd3/agd, ... Nightmare: agdnm/agd, agdnm2/agd, agdnm3/agd, ... Hell: agdhell/agd, agdhell2/agd, agdhell3/agd, ... I think for HC games, add "hc" (without the quote) before the number. For Non Ladder, add "x". We do not have a channel to hang out and chat. We used to have a public chat agd, but due to lack of interest, the channel bot was taken down by the owner. There is a public chat mickey (Mickey is a long time resident and helpful contributor, just ignore his political / flames posts), where some of us hang out. However this is Mickey's personal channel, you are a guest in his house if you enter this channel. Well, my account names all start with 'evilbill' so everyone knows who I am when I join a game :) At least, those who knew me from 1.09 and 1.10 *g* Excellent and timely post Alice. I've seen people in AGD games recently and have no idea who they are and they don't talk. > If you are playing a co-op game, there is not quite a fixed rule > regarding item sharing. Usually whomever needs it most gets to keep [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > some believe the one who delivered the last hit, and *very few* > believe whomever picked it up the fastest. <cough> Yeah, unfortunately I seem to end up playing with those very few. ;-) That Spirit Shroud that dropped from my kill the other day would have been handy. I didn't realise I had to run and grab it quickly. I remember when we were playing with Kaytie and she hadn't been on long and an HoZ dropped from The Infector of Souls. She was the only one playing a Pally so it was "Yours Kaytie" on screen, the shield stayed on the ground until well after she said "Wow! Thanks". That's the way it should be, and most often is when people know the other people they're playing with.  Signature~misfit~ >Excellent and timely post Alice. I've seen people in AGD games recently and >have no idea who they are and they don't talk. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >until well after she said "Wow! Thanks". That's the way it should be, and >most often is when people know the other people they're playing with. I can remember this incident too! That's the spirit. I still believe that Kaytie has the most luck when it comes to drops :-) Mickey has had his Sweatshop :-) (j/k) Cheers Kai > On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:40:22 +1200, "~misfit~" >> I remember when we were playing with Kaytie and she hadn't been on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I can remember this incident too! That's the spirit. Hey!! Kai! How ya doin' buddy? Long time no see. > I still believe that Kaytie has the most luck when it comes to drops She does indeed. > :-) Mickey has had his Sweatshop :-) (j/k) So I hear. Don't be a stranger huh? Maybe even fire up LOD and have a go on the new ladder? Take care, Signature~misfit~ >> On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 17:40:22 +1200, "~misfit~" >>> I remember when we were playing with Kaytie and she hadn't been on [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > She does indeed. Actually I've just realised something. That was the day that my luck started the big downhill slide and Kaytie's rocketed up. A seminal moment it would seem. Actually IIRC I had a pally in there that day as well hitting the Infector along with the rest of the crew but mine was already HoZ-equiped so the natural thing was to offer it to Kaytie. Unfortunately it seems in hindsight that a lot of my luck went with it. :-) That was last ladder, this one I'm feeling really lucky! Signature~misfit~ Hi, > That was last ladder, this one I'm feeling really lucky! I guess I've snatched some of the luck. In less than 10 NM Countess runs I got one SHAEL, two AMN, a HEL and several others. The second AMN happened just after I made the EDGE crossbow for my Enchantress.. CU, Oliver > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The second AMN happened just after I made the EDGE crossbow for my > Enchantress.. Cool! I'm lacking runes ATM despite having rushed six mules (and my necro) through to their NM hellforge. I've only got one AMN and I used that in my necro's Spirit Crystal Sword. No SOL whatsoever so far, or KO. Signature~misfit~ Hi, >> I guess I've snatched some of the luck. In less than 10 NM Countess >> runs I got one SHAEL, two AMN, a HEL and several others. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that in my necro's Spirit Crystal Sword. No SOL whatsoever so far, or > KO. now that you mention a necro and a SOL - on the last run she dropped UME's Lament and a, err, SOL... Now I just need a 4os sword and polearm - got all the runes for Spirit and Insight. Hoorrayy, Oliver > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > now that you mention a necro and a SOL - on the last run she dropped > UME's Lament and a, err, SOL... Conga rats. > Now I just need a 4os sword and polearm - got all the runes for Spirit > and Insight. I had a 4 socket Bill I was keeping for an Insight but figured it must be bad ju-ju as no SOL's were dropping so I gave it away last might. I could do with one for Lore too, I have a 2 socket War Hat. Maybe I should give that away too? I have a SHAEL, three DOLs, three HELs, two IOs, three LUMs and a FAL but no SOL so far and only the one AMN, used already. Might have to do some NM Countess runs. Hell would be too slow with my necro but my Freezer-dude is in act 1 Stoney Field NM and is killing with aplomb. Signature~misfit~ > I could do with one for Lore too, I have a 2 socket War Hat. Maybe I > should give that away too? Eww, yuk. Cap/War Hat/Shako are ugly. If you're going to make a Lore, use a Circlet. > Might have to do some NM Countess runs. Hell would be too slow with my > necro but my Freezer-dude is in act 1 Stoney Field NM and is killing with > aplomb. A Plomb? Is that one of the new uniques? ;-) Regards- Mark Bongo Fury >> I could do with one for Lore too, I have a 2 socket War Hat. Maybe I >> should give that away too? > > Eww, yuk. Cap/War Hat/Shako are ugly. If you're going to make a Lore, > use a Circlet. Aesthetics don't come into it mate. I have a 2-socket Circlet as well. The War Hat is 50 defence, the Circlet 22. War Hat has a level requirement of 22, Lore is 27. No-brainer really. But, yeah. Ugly. For maximum defence/no level requirement problems a 2 socket Grim Helm would be number one choice. Defence up to 125, level requirement 25. Alas, I don't have one. That's even uglier than a Circlet. >> Might have to do some NM Countess runs. Hell would be too slow with >> my necro but my Freezer-dude is in act 1 Stoney Field NM and is >> killing with aplomb. > > A Plomb? Is that one of the new uniques? > ;-) Actually it's one of the old ones. LOL, I just got a bit of a dig in agd2 for using 'big words' too. "Nonchalantly" I think it was. :-) Signature~misfit~ (Who loves the English language and all it's diversity) > For maximum defence/no level requirement problems a 2 socket Grim > Helm would be number one choice. Defence up to 125, level requirement > 25. Alas, I don't have one. That's even uglier than a Circlet. D'oh! I should have said "....... uglier than a War Hat" I need to remember to take my anti-senility pills more often. Signature~misfit~ [Snip] > I need to remember to take my anti-senility pills more often. And where's the fun in that? LOL Ruben > [Snip] >> I need to remember to take my anti-senility pills more often. > > And where's the fun in that? LOL Point taken, it's better if I save them up and eat a bunch all at once ;-) Signature~misfit~ >> [Snip] >>> I need to remember to take my anti-senility pills more often. >> >> And where's the fun in that? LOL > > Point taken, it's better if I save them up and eat a bunch all at once ;-) ROFL Ruben Hiya, "Alice" <malice_diablo@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1124255992.654603.266900 @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > There seems to be new faces in the WSCL AGD games. No, not just new to > me, I have asked several old-timers and they do not recognize these new > faces either. well, I've been posting here and in agd2 for quite some time, but only started playing ladder this new season.. Softcore only. Well knowing that people from here are honest and generous, I only play in agd games. My current accounts are *OUUCHY and *OUUCHZ and I'm sporting a level 24 barb (called BarbOuuch) and a level 42 Enchantress (Ouuchy). I still find it difficult to match account names and names from agd, so a list will be very helpful.. Thanks to donations from agd people, my Sorc now has a Duriel's Shell (and really, really loves it) and can finally run (err, crawl) the Countess for runes and stuff. She already found the Mahim-Oak Curio Amulet and the Tannr Goreroad (or somesuch) for her prayer merc. Most of my chars have *ouuch* in their name.. The name is from Diablo 1 times, where I always had to cry OUCH! when somebody hit my figher with a fireball - so I grew tired of this and called my chars OUUCH.. CU around, Oliver Well mine are *evilbill-agqx, *evilbill-agqx2 and *evilbill-agqx3 (the latter two all non-ladder chars now). :) > There seems to be new faces in the WSCL AGD games. No, not just new to > me, I have asked several old-timers and they do not recognize these new > faces either. I've already been recognized by some people, but I like the idea. So... I'm Sjoerd, my account name is Sjoerd1. I expect to add Sjoerd2+ as time goes by (so much for creativity). All my characters have names prefixed with SJH_. I've played quite a lot on Europe when I first started playing (during 1.09, don't remember how long ago :-P ) and quite a bit on USWest as well. I made a brief comeback for 1.10, but didn't really like it. So far I've enjoyed myself in 1.11 and I think I'll be around until early september. After that I might play a bit when time allows. Sjoerd "Alice" <malice_diablo@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1124255992.654603.266900 @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > There seems to be new faces in the WSCL AGD games. No, not just new to > me, I have asked several old-timers and they do not recognize these new > faces either. I'm hardly new,as I've been around since D1 days (Google tells me my first posts here were in September 1998, for those of you who remember last millennium), but my connection does not support 15 skellies, three snowstorms, an unkindness of ravens, and 23 flayers all moving at once, so I've not been playing much co-op lately. I did try a few HC games with Ruben, Orion, Bongo, and friends, but I'd freeze up every time we'd meet a large crowd. Boo! I've been playing mostly solo HC, because I find HC much more fun, but between lag and stupidity I've never finished the game soloing HC (actually, it was ALL lag, ALL OF IT!!!). This week my wife (who is working at the moment, and I am not) decided that paying bills online was too slow and we needed DSL. YAY! I'll see you all next week, just to be testing the networking equipment, you understand. Softcore, I've been -Tymme- since D1 and -Tymme- I remain. In HC I'm TymmeRMortis. Most of my characters have Tymme in the name, except for EmmaPeel, ShuraYukiHime (a no-prize if you recognize that name), and LittleMissDeath, the nice assassin ladies. Bring on Serenity! Mark P. Nelson. SignatureWhile I'll admit that anyone can make a mistake once, to go on making the same lethal errors century after century seems to me nothing short of deliberate.--V. > "Alice" <malice_diablo@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1124255992.654603.266900 > @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Bring on Serenity! So, left Berkely and now you're loafing like a pro, eh? Not a bad life, my friend. I wish you'd play SC now and again, so we could renew the OLD days :) Mickey > "Alice" <malice_diablo@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1124255992.654603.266900 > @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > you all next week, just to be testing the networking equipment, you > understand. Testing connection is best done in hardcore, yes? LOL See you soon! Ruben Still: *Spook-HCA *Spook-HCB (working on enchantress) *Spook-HCC *Spook-HCD *Spook-HCE (new account for 1.11, since I haven't decided yet whether to delete all previous characters) > Softcore, I've been -Tymme- since D1 and -Tymme- I remain. In HC I'm > TymmeRMortis. Most of my characters have Tymme in the name, except for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mark P. Nelson. > There seems to be new faces in the WSCL AGD games. No, not just new to > me, I have asked several old-timers and they do not recognize these new > faces either. Good idea, I seem to recall now that someone did this after the 1.10 patch as well. Joel Sebring7 (account) Tam-Ara (Orb-Ball Sorc, 24, will be my MF) JHL_Mule[1-6] (mules) I can attest to the friendliness and generosity of the AGD regulars. I was even pelted mercilessly by two of the premier regulars (unnamed to preserve their peace and quiet) one time with offer after offer to give me stuff. That was either 1.09 or early 1.10, forget which. Finally buried so deep in stuff I had to pick some of it up to be able escape the pile. I don't think I have ever asked for anything, guess I am one of *those* people. :) I don't get much free time to play and it is usually in small amounts (i.e. 30 - 60 minutes, maybe 6 - 8 hours a week) so I tend to keep a low profile and run by myself virtually all of the time under games named jhl/agd, jhl1/agd, and so on. Slow going but most of the time that isn't a bad thing. In all honesty I would become a regular if I thought I had the time to really contribute but I don't see that happening due to RL. I do pop in to the agd games (only normal at the moment of course) and drop stuff most every time I am on though and pop in to Mickeys chat channel occasionaly. MasterAtArms busted me last week for trying a channel command on the channel without being a regular, sorry, been awhile and I forgot. :) On a side note, does anyone mule the stuff from the agd?/agd games or is there just too much stuff being dropped? My only claim so far in the 1.11 season is that I opened the very first agd/agd game after the reset, which filled up fairly quickly. Had to bail out after Tristram to pick up my grandson due to an emergency on my daughters part. My only party game so far. Probably will be some more down the road. > If you just join the AGD, welcome! :) > It is a good idea for you to introduce yourself. The same with those [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > personal channel, you are a guest in his house if you enter this > channel. While pondering glazed doughnuts Alice <malice_diablo@yahoo.com> mistakenly typed : There seems to be new faces in the WSCL AGD games. No, not just new to : me, I have asked several old-timers and they do not recognize these new : faces either. Well, I finally played yesterday for the first time since the patch so... acct-name : Mee-row Real Name : Dave Ryan Typical Server : USWest Ladder both SC and HC Curr Char: Sorceress with an amazon not far behind if history has taught me anything. See you all around occaisionally. -dave > There seems to be new faces in the WSCL AGD games. No, not just new to > me, I have asked several old-timers and they do not recognize these new [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > personal channel, you are a guest in his house if you enter this > channel. Excuse please? I have been here longer than anyone now left here. As to my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, I post them to a Jewish culture newsgroup, and they get here becuase one idiot that refuses to stop stalking me cross-posts his replies here, just to elicit the kind of reply he got from you. Nucjet > Excuse please? I have been here longer than anyone now left here. As to > my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, I post them to a Jewish [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Nucjet That is exactly why I have kill filled him/them. I have never done that before. I just got tired of seeing all the garbage they spew. I think there are about 4 of them now that cross post all that s*** >> Excuse please? I have been here longer than anyone now left here. As >> to my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, I post them to a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > that before. I just got tired of seeing all the garbage they spew. I > think there are about 4 of them now that cross post all that s*** Only 4? I have killfiled about ten or more who have been replying to crossposted race-hate. It's nice and peaceful now. :-) Signature~misfit~ >>>Excuse please? I have been here longer than anyone now left here. As >>>to my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, I post them to a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Only 4? I have killfiled about ten or more who have been replying to > crossposted race-hate. It's nice and peaceful now. :-) I am a bit slow sometimes! LOL the list is growing each day >>> Excuse please? I have been here longer than anyone now left here. As >>> to my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, I post them to a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Only 4? I have killfiled about ten or more who have been replying to > crossposted race-hate. It's nice and peaceful now. :-) I've never had to use my killfile before either (well, not for several years), and I just checked. I've got forty penned up in my killfile, and still growing. I have totally lost patience with those clowns. ANY crosspost, except between AGD & AGD2 now gets killfiled, unless I recognize them as a regular AGD/AGD2 poster. Very peaceful reading now :-) At home I use google, and I HATE it that it has no killfile, at least none that I can find. For some reason, I never bothered to set up e-mail or news on either of my home ISP's Ruben > "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahoot.co.nz> wrote in message >> Only 4? I have killfiled about ten or more who have been replying to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > recognize them as a regular AGD/AGD2 poster. Very peaceful reading > now :-) I've done exactly the same thing. I'm *really* pleased that our regulars are no longer replying to the posts, replies are what keeps them coming back. If we all totally ignore them they'll stop crossposting here once the current (or maybe next lot of) threads stop. Even replying to anything crossposted here and taking AGD out encourages them to add it back in. In this situation it's best to ignore those threads completely, no matter how inflaming they may be. They have no place here so don't dignify them by even reading them, yet alone replying to them. > At home I use google, and I HATE it that it has no killfile, at least > none that I can find. For some reason, I never bothered to set up > e-mail or news on either of my home ISP's I find that strange. I have major issues with Google's interface and lack of features and have only ever used it on someone elses PC. Signature~misfit~ > > "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahoot.co.nz> wrote in message > >> Only 4? I have killfiled about ten or more who have been replying to [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > I find that strange. I have major issues with Google's interface and lack of > features and have only ever used it on someone elses PC. Actually, all the cross-posts here originate with the idiot Rev. Radavich is fixated on me, and will follow me anywhere I go. I think it is hysterical that he is still cross-posting to AGD in spite of the fact that he has been KF'd by every last reader here. It only serves to prove just HOW sick his need for attention is, and how obsessed with me he really is. I use google now and again just to see how many x-posts he's run up. If you all want to have some fun, take him out of your killfile and foreward a copy of EVERY post he makes to abuse@onetel.uk.net, just to give his ISP a hobby :) Mickey > Excuse please? I have been here longer than anyone now left here. As to > my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, <cough> Dennis Miller thread <cough> Regards- Mark Bongo Fury > > Excuse please? I have been here longer than anyone now left here. As to > > my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, > > <cough> Dennis Miller thread <cough> Something stuck in your throat there son? I posted a joke, one of his rants which I found funny. The fact that other came behind it and turned it into a political flame war doesn't alter what I posted and why I posted it. Plenty of people post things they find humorous here, I did no different. Mickey >> > Excuse please? I have been here longer than anyone now left here. As to >> > my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, >> >> <cough> Dennis Miller thread <cough> > > Something stuck in your throat there son? C'mon Mickey, we've both been here long enough to know each other better than that. I'm not shy about saying what's on my mind or expressing a controversial opinion. I was just trying to be discreet and subtly refuting your statement, out of respect. But if you want me to come right out and say it, fine. > I posted a joke, one of his > rants which I found funny. It was not a joke, it was a political diatribe that mirrors your own political views. There was no humor involved, it was purely political. "A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service to all Americans who still don't get it, I now offer you the story of the Middle East in just a few paragraphs, which is all you really need. Don't thank me.I'm a giver. Here we go: The Palestinians want their own country. There's just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian"sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in war, Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no "Palestinians" then, and the West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians" then. As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the "Palestinians," weeping for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation." So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them what they are: "Other Arabs Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death." I know that's a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: "Adjacent Jew-Haters." Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing. No, they don't. They could've had their own country any time in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David. But if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living. That's no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course-that's where the real fun is-but mostly they want Israel. Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel-or "The Zionist Entity" as their textbooks call it-for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's Earth, and if you've ever been around God's Earth, you know that's really saying something. It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mideast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one. Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs; five million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals. Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea? Oh, that? We were just kidding. My friend Kevin Rooney made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not. Or marshalling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab state into the sea? Nonsense. Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible. Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children? Disgusting. No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death. Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that with vital operations coming up against Iraq and others, it's in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, that can't be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of supermodels who've just had their drugs taken away. However, in any big-picture strategy, there's always a danger of losing moral weight. We've already lost some. After September 11 our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them. Beautiful. Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week (and then every day) start to do the same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint. If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan. (Hey, wait a minute, that's actually not such a bad id . . . uh, that is, what a horrible thought, yeah, horrible.)" > The fact that other came behind it and > turned it into a political flame war doesn't alter what I posted and > why I posted it. Plenty of people post things they find humorous here, > I did no different. You're a highly intelligent person Mickey, and quite sophisticated. To post this and then claim to be surprised that it provoked a political discussion/flamewar is, to put it kindly, disingenuous. So when Alice wrote: > (Mickey is a long > time resident and helpful contributor, just ignore his political / > flames posts) She was absolutely correct. And your claim: "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1124299187.187394.39180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > As to > my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, I post them to a Jewish > culture newsgroup, and they get here becuase one idiot that refuses to > stop stalking me cross-posts his replies here, just to elicit the kind > of reply he got from you. Is not accurate. In this case, you are NOT the victim. Regards- Mark Bongo Fury > >> > Excuse please? I have been here longer than anyone now left here. As to > >> > my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > It was not a joke, it was a political diatribe that mirrors your own > political views. There was no humor involved, it was purely political. You can repeat this as many times as suits your needs, but it was what it was, his weekly rant, which he did on his show, which was intended as humor. > "A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service > to all Americans who still don't get it, I now offer you the story of [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > this and then claim to be surprised that it provoked a political > discussion/flamewar is, to put it kindly, disingenuous. I never claimed I was surprised, please do not put words in my mouth, I am quite capable fo saying what I wish to say. What I said was that I did not post it to incite a flamewar, I posted it because I thought it was funny as hell, and oh by the way, I still do. > So when Alice wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > She was absolutely correct. And your claim: No, she was not, and your insisting she was won't make it true. if the best you can do is to repost something taken from an HBO website as comedy, they you have SADLY missed the mark. > "Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:1124299187.187394.39180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Is not accurate. Yes it is EXACTLY accurate. I posted NOTHING here off topic in a dogs age, this idiot just follows me around, hoping to start something. Nice to see you have played DIRECTLY into his hands. > In this case, you are NOT the victim. Nope, you all are the victims, I have him killfiled for 3 years now. Of course, it seems you LIKE being the victim here, as your post will serve ONLY to inspire him to more of the same. Congratulations on that. Mickey > I never claimed I was surprised, please do not put words in my mouth, I > am quite capable fo saying what I wish to say. What I said was that I > did not post it to incite a flamewar, I posted it because I thought it > was funny as hell, and oh by the way, I still do. LOL. Not a political post and not intended to start a flamewar. Now that's a funny joke. This is precisely why I reposted it in it's entirety. I doubt anyone but you will see it as apolitical. >> She was absolutely correct. And your claim: > > No, she was not, and your insisting she was won't make it true. And your denial will not hide the truth that is there for all to see. if the > best you can do is to repost something taken from an HBO website as > comedy, they you have SADLY missed the mark. Dennis Miller does do comedy. But he also does political commentary. I'll leave it to the other readers of AGD to decide for themselves where this piece lies. >> Is not accurate. > > Yes it is EXACTLY accurate. I posted NOTHING here off topic in a dogs > age, Alice's comment that you are a very helpful and knowlegable poster is spot on. But she was also right on the button to avoid your political slant. It's no insult, and you shouldn't take it as such. > this idiot just follows me around, hoping to start something. Nice > to see you have played DIRECTLY into his hands. My comments have nothing to do with the recent infux of trolls. I have no idea what they have been saying since the first few posts, because I KF'd them almost immediately. >> In this case, you are NOT the victim. > > Nope, you all are the victims, I have him killfiled for 3 years now. Of > course, it seems you LIKE being the victim here, as your post will > serve ONLY to inspire him to more of the same. Congratulations on that. I seriously doubt that any trolls are reading AGD, let alone a D2 related thread that is over a week old. If so, I'm sure they would have jumped on this thread already, with their KF evading name changes. Like I said, this has nothing to do with the trolls. It's me supporting an accurate statement by a fellow AGD member. Regards- Mark Bongo Fury > > I never claimed I was surprised, please do not put words in my mouth, I > > am quite capable fo saying what I wish to say. What I said was that I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > This is precisely why I reposted it in it's entirety. I doubt anyone but you > will see it as apolitical. Never said it was apolitical, simply said it was funny, and THAT was why I posted it. Any OTHER reasons YOU may see are wish fulfillment. > >> She was absolutely correct. And your claim: > > > > No, she was not, and your insisting she was won't make it true. > > And your denial will not hide the truth that is there for all to see. YOUR truth... how VERY convieneint, eh? > if the > > best you can do is to repost something taken from an HBO website as [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > leave it to the other readers of AGD to decide for themselves where this > piece lies. Ah, but you have NOT left it to others, YOU decided for EVERYONE. > >> Is not accurate. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > on. But she was also right on the button to avoid your political slant. It's > no insult, and you shouldn't take it as such. Nor was it taken as an insult, just as incorrect, which it was/is/will be. > > this idiot just follows me around, hoping to start something. Nice > > to see you have played DIRECTLY into his hands. > > My comments have nothing to do with the recent infux of trolls. I have no > idea what they have been saying since the first few posts, because I KF'd > them almost immediately. Irreleveant. You let them start something here, you feed them, and whether YOU see it or not is just as irrelevant. > >> In this case, you are NOT the victim. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I seriously doubt that any trolls are reading AGD, Your 'doubts' do not ammount to facts. I know these trolls a little better than you do, having dealt with them for years now, I know what they are up to, I know what they are capable of, but of course, as ALWAYS, you know better. > let alone a D2 related > thread that is over a week old. If so, I'm sure they would have jumped on > this thread already, with their KF evading name changes. Like I said, this > has nothing to do with the trolls. It's me supporting an accurate statement > by a fellow AGD member. In YOURS opinion, but that is all you ever care about, isn't it? Mickey > Never said it was apolitical, simply said it was funny, and THAT was > why I posted it. Any OTHER reasons YOU may see are wish fulfillment. So it's a political joke? And you deny Alice's accusation that you post anything political? OK. Regards- Mark Bongo Fury > > Never said it was apolitical, simply said it was funny, and THAT was > > why I posted it. Any OTHER reasons YOU may see are wish fulfillment. > > So it's a political joke? And you deny Alice's accusation that you post > anything political? OK. No, what she said was that I post political flames/posts. Note that subtle difference? Mickey > Excuse please? I have been here longer than anyone now left here. As > to my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, I post them to a > Jewish culture newsgroup, and they get here becuase one idiot that > refuses to stop stalking me cross-posts his replies here, just to > elicit the kind of reply he got from you. Sorry to disagree me old china but, for a few days there, you were replying to crossposted flames without taking AGD out. Yours were the only posts I was seeing as I killfile any non-AGD poster in those threads on sight. And I happen to know for a fact that Alice has the greatest respect for you. She is not a native English-speaker (I know, I know...) and I agree, her post *could* be taken to be criticism by someone who has been hounded all over usenet. However, you have come up in our in-game conversations and I know that wasn't her intent. Your reply seems kinda hostile considering. She is no stranger to racial hatred and bigotry herself. > Nucjet What does that mean? I've tried Google and several other sources but have had no luck. I'm guessing Hebrew huh? Babelfish doesn't do Hebrew so I lucked out there too. Cheers, Signature~misfit~ <snip but I wish Google would let me killfile> > > Nucjet > > What does that mean? I've tried Google and several other sources but have > had no luck. I'm guessing Hebrew huh? Babelfish doesn't do Hebrew so I > lucked out there too. I thought it was a new build... even better than the Rocket Sorc... the Nuclear Jet Necromancer specialising in Bone Spirit. (they could kinda look like nuclear jets right?) ::struggles away:: > <snip but I wish Google would let me killfile> Get a real newsreader. ;-) >>> Nucjet >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ::struggles away:: LOL, I thought of nuclear jet when I saw it too. Signature~misfit~ > > <snip but I wish Google would let me killfile> > > Get a real newsreader. ;-) The joys of doing this at work. (just one of) > > Excuse please? I have been here longer than anyone now left here. As > > to my policitcal flames, I do not post them here, I post them to a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to crossposted flames without taking AGD out. Yours were the only posts I > was seeing as I killfile any non-AGD poster in those threads on sight. True, but only because I wasn't looking at the posting list and wasn't reading AGD at the time. If you will note, ALL posts to ACJ end up quickly crossposted to no less that 5 NGs, and when the idiot Rev added AGD, I simply did not note it. As soon as I did, I expunged AGD. > And I happen to know for a fact that Alice has the greatest respect for you. > She is not a native English-speaker (I know, I know...) and I agree, her > post *could* be taken to be criticism by someone who has been hounded all > over usenet. However, you have come up in our in-game conversations and I > know that wasn't her intent. Your reply seems kinda hostile considering. She > is no stranger to racial hatred and bigotry herself. Not hostile at all, just wanted to make it clear. I do not make poilitically motivated posts here, nor have I ever, dispite Mark's assertions to the contrary. I made ONE post, once, which I thought was a riot, and it lead to a flamewar. Then again, Mark's opinion on the situation in Israel is such that I would avoid, most strenuously, any debate on the topic in this forum as it would most certainly turn ugly quickly. You will note that the when something of mine did get cross-posted here, I made one reply to Mark and then left the subject alone. > > Nucjet > > What does that mean? I've tried Google and several other sources but have > had no luck. I'm guessing Hebrew huh? Babelfish doesn't do Hebrew so I > lucked out there too. Nah, just look at your keyboard and imagive what you get when you offset your right hand one key to the left, and then try to type.... Mickey :o) >>> Nucjet >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Mickey :o) Ahh, so, an actual typo rather than what most people try to pass off as typos these days. :-) Signature~misfit~ > >>> Nucjet > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Ahh, so, an actual typo rather than what most people try to pass off as > typos these days. :-) Yeah, usually I have my spell checker set to auto correct that, but I was at work and posting during my break via Google :( Mickey > Then again, Mark's opinion on the > situation in Israel is such that I would avoid, most strenuously, any > debate on the topic in this forum as it would most certainly turn ugly > quickly. I'm a moderate, and you can't stand anyone who doesn't share your extremist opinion. You may think I'm pro Palestinain, but that's only because there is no one here advocating for that side. So I have nothing to counter on that side. The discussions don't turn 'ugly' until you start with the name calling and personal attacks. Which is sad, because I have learned quite a bit about the subject in the several discussions that have occurred here through the years. > You will note that the when something of mine did get > cross-posted here, I made one reply to Mark and then left the subject > alone. How magnanimous of you, wanting to spare AGD an ugly scene. After you had flamed the pants off of Shiflet, you didn't want it to get ugly. A close the barn door after the horse was gone thing? And here I thought you avoided my reply because I found so many facts that contradicted what you were claiming. Regards- Mark Bongo Fury > > Then again, Mark's opinion on the > > situation in Israel is such that I would avoid, most strenuously, any > > debate on the topic in this forum as it would most certainly turn ugly > > quickly. > > I'm a moderate, No, you're an apologist. > and you can't stand anyone who doesn't share your extremist > opinion. Translation: I won't stand still while terrorists butcher my people. > You may think I'm pro Palestinain, but that's only because You are. > there is > no one here advocating for that side. So I have nothing to counter on that > side. Other side? Only a complete idiot thinks there IS another side when ONE side is a free, recognized nation and the otehr is TERRORISTS!!!! Yes, you are an apologist, no doubt about it whatsoever. > The discussions don't turn 'ugly' until you start with the name calling and > personal attacks. Which is sad, because I have learned quite a bit about the > subject in the several discussions that have occurred here through the > years. What hogwash. You are simply a liar. > > You will note that the when something of mine did get > > cross-posted here, I made one reply to Mark and then left the subject > > alone. > > How magnanimous of you, wanting to spare AGD an ugly scene. After you had > flamed the pants off of Shiflet, you didn't want it to get ugly. My issues with him go back a LONG way before this event. Your attempt to make them one and the same is just more an example of your disingenuous nature. Mickey >> > Then again, Mark's opinion on the >> > situation in Israel is such that I would avoid, most strenuously, any [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Translation: I won't stand still while terrorists butcher my people. But you WILL sit safely in Florida, while you advocate inflaming the situation several thousand miles away. >> You may think I'm pro Palestinain, but that's only because > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > side is a free, recognized nation and the otehr is TERRORISTS!!!! Yes, > you are an apologist, no doubt about it whatsoever. The only way to peace is through mutual respect and two peoples living side by side. Extremist views, such as denying that the other side even exists, will only lead to continued violence, from both sides. >> The discussions don't turn 'ugly' until you start with the name calling >> and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What hogwash. You are simply a liar. You deny calling people names in one sentence, then call me a liar in the next. LOL >> How magnanimous of you, wanting to spare AGD an ugly scene. After you had >> flamed the pants off of Shiflet, you didn't want it to get ugly. > > My issues with him go back a LONG way before this event. Your attempt > to make them one and the same is just more an example of your > disingenuous nature. If you REALLY wanted to spare AGD an ugly scene, you would have shown a little self control and just ignored Shiflet. But sparing AGD was not the reason you quit the thread now, was it? Regards- Mark Bongo-Fury > >> > Then again, Mark's opinion on the > >> > situation in Israel is such that I would avoid, most strenuously, any [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > But you WILL sit safely in Florida, while you advocate inflaming the > situation several thousand miles away. Displaying your ignorance, or just being obnoxious? I still maintain a home in Israel, and am usually there 3 months a year or so. I did not go this year due to issues concerning my wife's health which I haven't mentioned as they aren't AGD's problems. > >> You may think I'm pro Palestinain, but that's only because > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > by side. Extremist views, such as denying that the other side even exists, > will only lead to continued violence, from both sides. Which is EXACTLY what the Arabs do. They have been welcome as citizens of Israel since it's creation, they serve in our government, they serve in our military, and yet the chant "From the river to the sea" when they think there are none but themselves to hear it. Every time they have been offered a chance at peace, they have walked away from it, the last time being at Camp David, where Barak offered them NINETY EIGHT PERCENT of what they wanted. Do you know of ANY negotiation where one party gets 100% of heir needs while the other gets nothing? You are an apologist, and rather than see the reality of the situation, you think that my making nice liberal bleating noises, you are engaged in some form of justice. You aren't, you are simply supporting the unsupportable. > >> The discussions don't turn 'ugly' until you start with the name calling > >> and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You deny calling people names in one sentence, then call me a liar in the > next. LOL No, I didn't deny calling people names, you liar. What I denied, and what ANYONE who can actually READ will see is the statement that discussions don't turn ugly until *I* start calling people names. That was a blatant lie, followed by another blatant lie. > >> How magnanimous of you, wanting to spare AGD an ugly scene. After you had > >> flamed the pants off of Shiflet, you didn't want it to get ugly. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If you REALLY wanted to spare AGD an ugly scene, you would have shown a > little self control and just ignored Shiflet. As I have for years now? OK, thanks for pointing that out. > But sparing AGD was not the reason you quit the thread now, was it? Yes, it was, and I will thank you not to try to determine MY reasons for doing things. It is both ignorant and arrogant, which while being a trademark of yours, is getting rather tedious. BTW, I note you have no such reservations about starting a flamewar here, so I will be the better man and check out at this time. You may feel free to flame away, I am through with you until such time as a reputable member of he group gives me a reason to want to read yoru posts again. Mickey > reputable member of the group We have some of those? Noooooooooooo! Say it ain't so mommy, I don't want to be reputable! My reputation will suffer from this! ;) SignatureNot 1337, 42. > > reputable member of the group > > We have some of those? Noooooooooooo! > Say it ain't so mommy, I don't want to be reputable! > My reputation will suffer from this! > ;) That would depend on one's standards :o) Mickey >>> reputable member of the group >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > That would depend on one's standards :o) Standards?? We have some of those?? Noooooo! Etc. <g>. Signature~misfit~ > >>> reputable member of the group > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Etc. <g>. We try to avoid these at ALL costs, as they place unwanted restrictions on our actions, and we're FAR too smart for that :o) Mickey Hmm, not much has changed. >> There seems to be new faces in the WSCL AGD games. No, not just new to >> me, I have asked several old-timers and they do not recognize these new [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] >stop stalking me cross-posts his replies here, just to elicit the kind >of reply he got from you. Who are you calling an "idiot", you fat Izzy c.nt? And when are *you* going to stop "stalking" Alex? Such a hypocrisy already! Oy vey! Recent "truths", by Mickey Ben Tovim (a.k.a. Micky Marine, Micky Mouth et. al.) WARNING: Do not drink while reading this "I am an Israeli" "I am an American" "People think I'm Italian" "I have a B'rooklyn accent you could cut with a chainsaw" "I served with the IDF" "I served with the US Marines" "I was wounded in Vietnam" "I was decorated in Vietnam" "I wasn't even in Vietnam most of the time" "I played bridge with Omar Sharif" "I am a multi-millionaire" "I drive a Ferrari" "I own 1.65 million shares of Comcast" "My grandchildren couldn't spend all the money I made" "I would starve on $250 million" "I'm retired" "I work as a systems analyst in Detroit" "I get paid $155 an hour" "I live in Tiberias, Israel" "I live in Sarasota, Florida" "My wife is half-Italian" "My wife is half-Scottish" "My wife is jewish" "I'm hung like a horse" "I have nine children" "My eldest son died in his sleep" "I have MS" "I have proved everything I've said" But the best I saved for last: "If you and she are examples of what jewish women have come to, I'm glad I didn't marry one. I would bet you could nag a man to death as well." Oh, we could go on for days, but you get the picture. > There seems to be new faces in the WSCL AGD games. No, not just new to > me, I have asked several old-timers and they do not recognize these new [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > alt.games.diablo2 if you are playing in a realm/mode that is not > popular here. Hi. I've been lurking on the group on and off for a few years, but I just started playing regularly in agd games. My account name is "meempants", and the only char i'm playing right now is Nezkah, a fana/zealot pally. I'll answer to any of these, or just "pants" (it's a long and boring, inside-joke, "you had to be there" type of thing :)). At the risk of sounding like a brown-noser, I'd just like to say that my experience so far in agd games has been fantastic. I'm in Texas and play on West because I'm somewhat insomniac, and there's usually people on when I am. Everyone I've met who I've recognized from the group so far has been very nice and helpful. See you in game! Pants >> "meempants" ... or just "pants" (it's a long and boring, >> inside-joke, "you had to be there" type of thing :)). "You had to be there" ... "inside joke" .. involving your pants? No thanks, very much, I'll wander elsewhere if you don't mind. Whether the inside of your pants holds a joke or not, I'd just as soon not know... >> I'm somewhat insomniac A crowded club here... Welcome! >>> "meempants" ... or just "pants" (it's a long and boring, >>> inside-joke, "you had to be there" type of thing :)). [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the inside of your pants holds a joke or not, I'd just as soon not > know... LOL, another person who is good at creative interpretation. Excellent! >>> I'm somewhat insomniac > > A crowded club here... Welcome! Indeed. I spend most of my time playing between the hours of 11pm and 4am. Signature~misfit~ Hi all! 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