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Stephen van Ham - 24 Jun 2005 04:44 GMT

Now, I'm deeply cynical of the trade market in general, and tend to view
traders that claim to have "legit" wares with a healthy dose of scepticism.

However, today I popped a grand charm in the cube with some pgems, and out
came a +1 druid elemental skills with 24 life. Not a bad little charm. In
addition, I recently found a grand charm with +1 poison and bone skills and 16
life. Both USWest SC Ladder. If I'm reading Alice's guide to trade values
correctly, each of these charms could potentially fetch multiple Ist runes on
the open market.

Here's my problem. While I fully believe that almost all the resulting Ist
runes would most likely be the result of duping, botting or forge rushing
(three things I consider against the spirit of the game to varying degrees),
and while I most likely wouldn't want the resulting Ist runes for myself, the
runes could be put to good use by my fellow AGDers in various runewords, or
used to trade for other useful items for builds that players such as Dalai and
Jabber are constantly undertaking.

Trade, or not to trade, that is the question.

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~misfit~ - 24 Jun 2005 07:14 GMT

> Now, I'm deeply cynical of the trade market in general, and tend to
> view traders that claim to have "legit" wares with a healthy dose of
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> reading Alice's guide to trade values correctly, each of these charms
> could potentially fetch multiple Ist runes on the open market.

From Alice's guide of Sun March 20th:

Elemental - Um
PnB - Mal

10-20 life adds Um to Mal to price of PnB GC.
20-30 life adds 1 to 5 Ist to price of Elemental GC.

Therefore Your PnB GC is worth perhaps one Ist while your Elemental GC is
worth 1.5 to 5.5 Ists.

> Here's my problem. While I fully believe that almost all the
> resulting Ist runes would most likely be the result of duping,
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>
> Trade, or not to trade, that is the question.

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of
outrageous fortune.
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing end them.
--
~misfit~

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Stephen van Ham - 24 Jun 2005 23:09 GMT

Long ago, in the world without shrimp, "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahoot.co.nz>,
supreme ruler of bunnies, hopped and flopped and said:

>From Alice's guide of Sun March 20th:
>
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>Therefore Your PnB GC is worth perhaps one Ist while your Elemental GC is
>worth 1.5 to 5.5 Ists.

Hehehe, I guess I wasn't reading it right. 5.5 Ists only? Pfft, hardly
worth bothering with.

>> Here's my problem. While I fully believe that almost all the
>> resulting Ist runes would most likely be the result of duping,
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>outrageous fortune.
>Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing end them.

Oh, having played this game longer than most, I'm long since over the concept
of exploits, cheats, or just plain cheese in the game, and long since made the
choice as to what I'm going to partake in, and what I'm not. However... I
was considering the other aspect of it, which is what's the most fun. I
already know from past experience that having lots of high level gear isn't
necessary fun, nor is fixating upon it, the hunt being more fun than the
having, for me. However, I also know that playing variant builds IS fun, and
that some of them require specific gear, and having some high grade fodder for
the trade scene, as whacky as the trade scene might be, could help fuel a
couple of new Dalai and Jabber builds, which could be fun if I get to follow
their progress. Just in the same way that some of us magic find as much to
find gear to give to others as we do to get gear for ourselves. :-)

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ald - 26 Jun 2005 03:47 GMT

>Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of
>outrageous fortune.
>Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing end them.
>--
>~misfit~

Is *that* the way that quote goes? I'd come up with my own, to amuse
the younger son, who wants to be an actor:

"Whether 'tis nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous
fortune, or to totally flub up the line."

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Stephen van Ham - 26 Jun 2005 04:15 GMT

Long ago, in the world without shrimp, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>,
supreme ruler of bunnies, hopped and flopped and said:

>Is *that* the way that quote goes? I'd come up with my own, to amuse
>the younger son, who wants to be an actor:
>
>"Whether 'tis nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous
>fortune, or to totally flub up the line."

"Alas, poor Ormus, I slew him well..."

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