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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / Diablo / April 2005MF: Hell pit or NM Baal/Meph?
My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His gear is pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without too many scares. (Resists 75/75/75/65). I've been running Baal/Meph in NM and a few Pit runs in hell. In hell I have to change gear to get better resists which drops his MF from around 130% to around 50% and his resists are still somewhat lacking (Approx 60/50/75/45). My question: Where am I better off MFing? I haven't found a single unique or set item in hell pit in five runs whereas I'm finding the occasional mid-level item in NM. I'd love to find him an Homonculus, Marrowwalks, Skulders Ire, a Harly Crest etc and some stuff for my young Strafeazon to grow into. Is there a list of ilvls and area levels that would let me know if it's possible to find X item in NM anywhere on the net? Thanks folks. -- ~misfit~ "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz> had this idea for a movie: >My question: Where am I better off MFing? I haven't found a single unique or >set item in hell pit in five runs whereas I'm finding the occasional >mid-level item in NM. I'd love to find him an Homonculus, Marrowwalks, >Skulders Ire, a Harly Crest etc and some stuff for my young Strafeazon to >grow into. Is there a list of ilvls and area levels that would let me know >if it's possible to find X item in NM anywhere on the net? NM Baal can drop all of that, except maybe the Marrows, but you could use the always use drop calculator that's included in the atma muling utility, to find out for sure.  SignatureIf in doubt, hit with axe. > "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz> had this idea for a movie: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > use the always use drop calculator that's included in the atma muling > utility, to find out for sure. I don't have atma as I understand it's a SP thing and I don't do SP. Is there anything/anywhere else to find out? Franks, -- ~misfit~ "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz> had this idea for a movie: >I don't have atma as I understand it's a SP thing and I don't do SP. Is >there anything/anywhere else to find out? You don't have to "do" SP to run a utility which includes a calculator that supposedly applies to MP also. Interestingly, the calculator that Jabber listed and the ATMAs one actually give different results (not only in the odds, but the list of creatures that can drop the shako, frex), although the ingame.de one does include a "these results might not be accurate" warning at the top... In all fairness, though, the ATMA calculator lists drop chances for "Uber Diablo" in nightmare, so I guess they're both work in progress. SignatureIf in doubt, hit with axe. > My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His gear is > pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without too many [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > -- > ~misfit~ Hi Im pretty sure NM Baal can drop all of the exceptional uniques so he should be able to drop homunuculus and skulders. When I played sp NM baal dropped war travlers and a gheeds and ali baba for my barb and I am guessing battle,net NM baal can drop what sp NM baal can. I think he can even drop a gold shako but that needs to be a REAL lucky drop. Marrowalks might be to high but doing NM baal lots can still get nice magic hunting stuff for later in hell. Oh and if you magic hunt in hell until u get nicer resists dont forget the mauseleum. It might be a little safer to do cuz there wont be any archers in there I don think and most times when I get in trouble doing pit it from boss gangs of archers. And the monsters not as dangerous on way over there. Kaytie Kaytie >> My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His >> gear is pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > drop. Marrowalks might be to high but doing NM baal lots can still > get nice magic hunting stuff for later in hell. Ok, thanks Kaytie. I know that somewhere on the net there's a drop guide or something but I haven't had the need of it before. > Oh and if you magic hunt in hell until u get nicer resists dont forget > the mauseleum. It might be a little safer to do cuz there wont be any > archers in there I don think and most times when I get in trouble > doing pit it from boss gangs of archers. And the monsters not as > dangerous on way over there. Y'know, I've never found a unique in the mausoleum despite several MF runs through there. I even looked through last night with this guy. Not even a yellow AFAIR. Cheers, -- ~misfit~ > My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His gear is > pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without too many [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > grow into. Is there a list of ilvls and area levels that would let me know > if it's possible to find X item in NM anywhere on the net? The drop calc on indiablo.de is what I use, however due to the style of html they use, my browser only ever shows indiablo.de in the location bar, and the page is in German...Scroll down until you see Tips and Tricks on the left, and click on calculators. There's a whole bunch there...skill planner, drop calc, weapon speed calc, and so on. The one you want has a picture of Arkaine's next to it, and is actually called Drop-Calc. SignatureConvention says my name, along with a witticism or poignant quote, should go here. Ah well. >> My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His >> gear is pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > so on. The one you want has a picture of Arkaine's next to it, and is > actually called Drop-Calc. Cool, thanks. I'll try to find it now. If I can't I'll get you to post a URL. Cheers, -- ~misfit~ >> My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His >> gear is pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > so on. The one you want has a picture of Arkaine's next to it, and is > actually called Drop-Calc. Thanks. So he can drop me a Shako with my usual players 2 (As well as Skullder's, Homonculus and a few other things I could use). Level 75. The odds aren't great but there are quite a few items on that list I'd like so I might keep hammering him. Unfortunately no Marrowwalks though. :-( I see there's a fairly high chance of dropping Szabi's hat. I can attest to that, I got two. Still, a useful hat, +1 to skills, reasonable defence and around 20 fire/light resist. Cheers, bookmarked for future reference. -- ~misfit~ > My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His gear is > pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without too many [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > -- > ~misfit~ Hmm, I think we got bot hof those items over the weekend - Homonculous and the Shako. Hey weren't you with us when we got the Succubi Skull. If so you must have posted this before we got it. Yeah I think you ended up with it. WOOT? Bongo and I found Shako in Rocky Waste Hell yesterday AM. I expect that the Shako has been "dibbed" already. Hell I can't even remember what;s on the thing, I never had one. Orion Ryder >> My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His >> gear is pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Hmm, I think we got bot hof those items over the weekend - Homonculous > and the Shako. Cool! > Hey weren't you with us when we got the Succubi Skull. If so you must > have posted this before we got it. Yeah I think you ended up with it. > WOOT? Yeah, I was there. No, I didn't get it even though I was pulling a lot of MF, running 10 skellies and spamming CE and I casually mentioned how much I'd love to have it. :-( In parties with a skellimancer I'm so busy throwing curses, spamming CE where needed and replacing skellies (Pushing buttons) that I don't get to push <alt> very often. Usually the first I hear of a drop is someone saying "Cool!" or talking about it afterwards. No wootage here. > Bongo and I found Shako in Rocky Waste Hell yesterday AM. I expect > that the Shako has been "dibbed" already. Hell I can't even remember > what;s on the thing, I never had one. Excellent. Lucky find. Shako good hat. I've been running NM Baal this evening but nothing exciting. Another Szabi's hat and a Trang's handbag are about the pick of the lot. LOL, in SC the handbag was the only part of the TO set I *didn't* find, I traded for it. Cost a Lem, the same as I was quoted for an Homonculus. (I have four homon's in SC). If any of our HC group is reading this and is into trading, I have 40 pgems and need good gear for my necro.......... I seem to find stuff I don't need. I've given away a +1 traps skiller, a +3 traps ammy and a +2 fire skills ammy and I have two offensive pally skillers, one barb mastery skiller and a nice +2 fire skills, +50 mana plus a couple other useful mods rare ammy put aside for if/when we get a cheeser up and running. I'm slowly finding the resists charms I need for the necro so that a foray into hell should be safer. All resists 75 in NM with 175% MF. Things go downhill rapidly in hell though, I have to sacrifice MF for resists and end up with FA of either. misfitmancer is now level 76, 750+ life, 150 damage absorb bone armour and not getting much experience from players 2 Baal/minion runs any more. I'll keep plugging away, all good thing come to those who wait.... Or so my dad kept telling me. He turned 75 last week and is fitter and more energetic than I am so he must be onto something. -- ~misfit~ > >> My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His > >> gear is pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > -- > ~misfit~ Damn~ Drat! I've got this necromancer thingy some kind of head, or trophy or something, I don't know all that much about necros like you guys do. I think it has +2 summoning and some resists all, maybe 25 or 35 RA. We found it recently and nobody seemed interested in it so I grabbed it just in case just as we were heading to another game. And it has some other things, a rare. You look at it (if I can rememeber who has it - I think my lite sorc does) If you've been getting yoru mules the socket quest you'll be able to pop another Pdiamiond into it and up the resists a little more. I have a habit of saving oddball things sometimes, which occasionally does pay off (wow, I needed something with dual resists and this item has those two - perfect). Sometimes I end up having to sell later but as long as I have room in my stash and it has some kind of potential I hold it until it is obvious that it is crap. Some of my mules have good cash from selling now worthless items that once had color. With all that MF you have I probably don't have much stuff that can compete with what you are finding. I traded for the first time Sunday AM and got some decent thingies. Not comparable to what Bongo was getting but still good for the time at it. Amazing. I think you can give it a try. I sent in my PerfGem mule and the people with items just walked up to me and showed what they had. I gotta do it some more this weekend. Orion Ryder > I traded for the first time Sunday AM and got some decent thingies. Not > comparable to what Bongo was getting but still good for the time at it. > Amazing. I think you can give it a try. I sent in my PerfGem mule and > the people with items just walked up to me and showed what they had. I > gotta do it some more this weekend. I never did any trading till recently. But trading Perfs was the quick route to getting the gear necessary to get established on West. It's really turned into an interesting sideline. As you've seen I've come up with a fair amount of useful gear for a handful of gems. Last night though I think I turned the corner into becoming a real wheeler dealer. While reading newsgroups/message boards on one computer, I had my gem mule scanning for games on the other. I started with 24 perfect gems, and after about an hour I had a 192 Bartuc's, Tal's Mask and Orb, Tiamats, Hand of Broc, 25 Vipermagi and 30 Perfs. The Bartuc's Claws seem to be especially volatile, I was buying them for 6-8 Perfs and selling them for 12-15. Regards- Mark Bongo-Fury I expect that the SEC will be spearheading an investigation into your tactics. At that rate you are going to be putting Ghhed out of business. Soon players will be seeing a new unique grand charm dropping - "Bongo's Grand Charm of Market Corner" Orion Ryder > If any of our HC group is reading this and is into trading, I have 40 > pgems > and need good gear for my necro.......... 40 Perfs will get you a lot of nice stuff. Mostly mid range stuff though. The higher level gear seems to only go for high runes or other elite items. But a little patience trading can be as time effective as MFing. > I'm slowly finding the resists charms I need for the necro so that a foray > into hell should be safer. All resists 75 in NM with 175% MF. Things go > downhill rapidly in hell though, I have to sacrifice MF for resists and > end > up with FA of either. I lost all my good resist charms with the three MFers that I killed off. So until I find a lot more of those I won't be able to build a character with a lot of MF. I think good charms are the key to building an effective HC MFer. Regards- Mark Bongo-Fury >> If any of our HC group is reading this and is into trading, I have 40 >> pgems [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > other elite items. But a little patience trading can be as time > effective as MFing. As you seem to know your stuff about trading (at least far more so than I, I've never traded) can you give me some advice please? What forums/message boards were you reading? I know Alice gave some excellent advice about traing in here a while back and I saved it but am not sure if it holds true for HC. >> I'm slowly finding the resists charms I need for the necro so that a >> foray into hell should be safer. All resists 75 in NM with 175% MF. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > character with a lot of MF. I think good charms are the key to > building an effective HC MFer. Yep. ATM when an SC drops it gets my blood racing. Usually ends up as 1-10 lightning damage or +2 strength though. :-( I'm getting most of my resists from gear now and that limits me quite abit. -- ~misfit~ > As you seem to know your stuff about trading (at least far more so than I, > I've never traded) can you give me some advice please? What forums/message > boards were you reading? I use this as a starting point: http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=190989 But it seems that things are a little cheaper than when this was written. The biggest thing is that it is a volitile market. You can get things very cheaply one moment and sell it for a big profit the next. It all depends on being at the right place at the right time. <brag mode on> Like yesterday where I got an ethereal Reapers Toll for 3 perfect diamonds. ;-) <brag mode off> Regards- Mark Bongo-Fury >> As you seem to know your stuff about trading (at least far more so >> than I, I've never traded) can you give me some advice please? What [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > get things very cheaply one moment and sell it for a big profit the > next. It all depends on being at the right place at the right time. Hmmm. It says Marrows 12p-20p-Pul. If you see a pair I have in excess of 40 pgems (Pul value). I should do this myself but I seem to have an aversion to trading > <brag mode on> > Like yesterday where I got an ethereal Reapers Toll for 3 perfect > diamonds. ;-) > <brag mode off> Wicked! Good score. -- ~misfit~ > Hmmm. It says Marrows 12p-20p-Pul. If you see a pair I have in excess of > 40 > pgems (Pul value). I should do this myself but I seem to have an aversion > to > trading I've been searching for some Marrows for my Boner with no luck. They never seem to appear. I guess I'll need to make a 'bring marrow' game and see if I have any better luck. Regards- Mark Bongo-Fury >> Hmmm. It says Marrows 12p-20p-Pul. If you see a pair I have in >> excess of 40 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > never seem to appear. I guess I'll need to make a 'bring marrow' game > and see if I have any better luck. Akk, Ok. If anyone turns up with two pairs you know what to do.... :-) -- ~misfit~ >>> Hmmm. It says Marrows 12p-20p-Pul. If you see a pair I have in >>> excess of 40 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Akk, Ok. If anyone turns up with two pairs you know what to do.... :-) I got a pair this morning (+2 SM, 16s, 17d) for 40 Perfs. But I didn't remember I needed 118 strength to wear them. So it will be several levels before my Boner can wear them, even with temp gear. So if you want this pair you can have them. Regards- Mark Bongo-Fury >>>> Hmmm. It says Marrows 12p-20p-Pul. If you see a pair I have in >>>> excess of 40 [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > levels before my Boner can wear them, even with temp gear. So if you > want this pair you can have them. Oh yeah!!!!! I have (exactly) 118 strength and 40 perfs in the bank. You da man! I'll look for you on-line. Thanks. -- ~misfit~ > >> As you seem to know your stuff about trading (at least far more so > >> than I, I've never traded) can you give me some advice please? What [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > pgems (Pul value). I should do this myself but I seem to have an aversion to > trading Is this HC or SC? I have a spare pair on USWSC. > > <brag mode on> > > Like yesterday where I got an ethereal Reapers Toll for 3 perfect > > diamonds. ;-) > > <brag mode off> > > Wicked! Good score. Yup, that's a pretty good trade. short >>>> As you seem to know your stuff about trading (at least far more so >>>> than I, I've never traded) can you give me some advice please? What [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> > Is this HC or SC? I have a spare pair on USWSC. HC. I gave away a pair on SC last night, as well as a Harley, a Baranar's and a Windy. I just don't play enough SC anymore. I was going to build a character around the Windy but HC is taking my time now. (HC summoner lvl 77 now) >>> <brag mode on> >>> Like yesterday where I got an ethereal Reapers Toll for 3 perfect [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yup, that's a pretty good trade. Huh, yeah! sure is. :-) -- ~misfit~ >> My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His >> gear is pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > have posted this before we got it. Yeah I think you ended up with it. > WOOT? Homonculus is an heirophant trophy anyway. I just remembered. Succubi skull is Boneflame? Cheers, -- ~misfit~ In SC i have two Homunculi and I believe they were Skulls. The name Boneflame does not sound familiar to me. Orion Ryder > In SC i have two Homunculi and I believe they were Skulls. > > The name Boneflame does not sound familiar to me. > > Orion Ryder Homonculus = Hierophant Trophy Darkforce Spawn = Bloodlord Skull Boneflame = Succubus Skull. Of the three Homonculus is the best IMO. In SC I have three +3 Boneflames but never felt the need to use them. Boneflame is lvl 72 req and Homo is lvl 42 and has far better mods. http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/normal/unecromancer.shtml -- ~misfit~ > Hmm, I think we got bot hof those items over the weekend - Homonculous > and the Shako. Actually, it was a Homu and an Occy that dropped in the Saturday night games. > Yeah I think you ended up with it. I think Vixy got both of them. > Bongo and I found Shako in Rocky Waste Hell yesterday AM. I expect that > the Shako has been "dibbed" already. Hell I can't even remember what;s > on the thing, I never had one. That was a joke I made, apparently a poor one, when a white Shako dropped. Though I did get a Harley Crest from NM Baal the other day. And like you I don't know what to do with it. The only one I ever had was in an untwinked team, at the end of the second to last session. So I only ever had one for about 2 hours of playing. If I can trade it for a pair of marrowwalks for my Boner I might go that way since I don't have the charms to build another MFer. Regards- Mark Bongo-Fury A Homu and Homonculous are different things? Sheesh! Still a newb I am at some of these things. I wish people would call the Crest "the Crest" and not say "I got a Shako". People used to say that and I would think "Cripes, wtf is the big deal? I'm always seeing Shakos drop" Orion Ryder "Orion Ryder" <orionryder@hotmail.com> had this idea for a movie: >A Homu and Homonculous are different things? Sheesh! Still a newb I am >at some of these things. >I wish people would call the Crest "the Crest" and not say "I got a >Shako". People used to say that and I would think "Cripes, wtf is the >big deal? I'm always seeing Shakos drop" What is this "Crest" item of which you speak? Start calling it a harly and some of us will start wondering which monsters ride 'bikes. I still have a "Lore" runeworded shako from many years back, which I made so when someone asked me what I was wearing, I could say "a shako". SignatureIf in doubt, hit with axe. > My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His gear is > pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without too many [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > grow into. Is there a list of ilvls and area levels that would let me know > if it's possible to find X item in NM anywhere on the net? Unless you are hunting for those few items that Mephisto cannot drop, the best place to MF in the game is Hell Mephy or Hell Pindleskin. The former will drop items more often, the latter can be killed more times per hour. Mickey >> My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His >> gear is pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > former will drop items more often, the latter can be killed more times > per hour. Thanks Mickey. I guess I might try to progress him through to act three hell. At the moment he's in act one, I get intermittent lag and am a bit wary of losing him. His resists aren't great in hell yet. -- ~misfit~ > >> My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His > >> gear is pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM without [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > hell. At the moment he's in act one, I get intermittent lag and am a bit > wary of losing him. His resists aren't great in hell yet. In act 1, you can farm Andariel. It certainly helps if you can teleport, but if yyour char is on level, even the trip down to see her is fruitful in that you will level nicely. She can drop most of the better items, and of course has that propensity to drop jewelry :) Mickey >>>> My second HC necro is lvl 75 and I want to use him for MFing. His >>>> gear is pretty crap but he can pretty much wander through NM [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > is fruitful in that you will level nicely. She can drop most of the > better items, and of course has that propensity to drop jewelry :) Cheers. I can teleport, I have Spellsteel on switch. However, this being HC and having had a near-death due to teleing into a bunch of dolls in NM durance I keep the teleing to a minimum. Just for tele-kills and places like the ROF and Arcane, where I can see what I'm jumping into. :-) -- ~misfit~ <snippopotomus> >>> Unless you are hunting for those few items that Mephisto cannot > >>> drop, the best place to MF in the game is Hell Mephy or Hell [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > durance I keep the teleing to a minimum. Just for tele-kills and places like > the ROF and Arcane, where I can see what I'm jumping into. :-) Fair enough. Even so, you can get quite nice XP on the journey down, and also refil your supply of purples, as those levels are rife with bosses and champions. I have also gotten some decent items and runes on the way to visit Her Greenness. Mickey > <snippopotomus> > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > bosses and champions. I have also gotten some decent items and runes > on the way to visit Her Greenness. Ok, thanks for the tip. -- ~misfit~ Don't forget NM Andy, easy target. WD said she has high chance of dropping unique rings. One thing I know, Hell Andy had given me at least 15 Tal ammies. > My question: Where am I better off MFing? I haven't found a single unique or As always, whichever you can do it safely and in timely manner. "Timely manner" differs from player to player. Baal runs include risk of dolls/gloams stair traps. Hell pits may have fanatic archers. As Kaytie mentioned, Hell Mauseleoum is considerably tamer. In fact, this is a great place for a cold witch since none is naturally CI. I had found a Windy there (hmmm, I hope somebody picked this up from a Rogue merc in one of my chars). If you do run Hell pits (or other places that have ranged attackers), I'd suggest to cast Dim Vision ahead of you all the times. At the entrance of Pit 2, it is also a good idea to battle cast Sparky since there are certainly monster gatherings just ahead of you. As Tae had told me, Sparky is a monster magnet since he sparks fire at all directions thus drawing all attacks toward him. The nice thing about pit is that it always has 7 (IIRC) bosses, so it's a nice experience run as well. Looking for resist charms? Don't forget that 'Shimmering' is very low level and can spawn as early as Normal Act 1. Mule off some +2 str sc's, they can be useful sometimes. Looking to start trade business? Get a taste of the market first. Make "pgems here", join "uniques 4 pgems", "trade city", etc to see what people offer and ask how many pgems they want. Accept every trade offer and ask "wug" (what u got) followed by "wuw 4 xyzzx" (what u want). Observe trading communities to learn its characteristics. For example, W SCL B.net forum is predominantly high level duelers market with occasional low level duelers and levelling business. Thus, it makes a lot of difference between 195% and 200% HoZ. Have an awesome Enchantress gear? Save it till the right buyer shows up in this community since this is (was?) not a big leveling business market. +6 Enchant, +5 FM Orb can one day being offered 2 Ist and another day 30 Lo. Same with LLD items, someone once offered 2 high runes (4 Ist at the time) each for eth Biggins Bonnet, perfect eth Crainte Vomir, and eth Hotspur. HC market is obviously different than SC market. Logically, charms should cost more in HC, thus pgems have high values. However, since there are significantly less players, the number of available items should be less, thus supplies for uniques are lower, driving pgems (money) values down. Overall though, I'd guess pgems are valued higher in HC than SC. Try a low number of pgems to offer for certain items, the result may surprise you. "Alice" <malice_diablo@yahoo.com> had this idea for a movie: >Don't forget NM Andy, easy target. WD said she has high chance of >dropping unique rings. One thing I know, Hell Andy had given me at >least 15 Tal ammies. What's her chance to drop a piece of jewelry, period? I seem to only get one in every 15-20 or so runs. >As Kaytie mentioned, Hell Mauseleoum is considerably tamer. In fact, this >is a great place for a cold witch since none is naturally CI. I had >found a Windy there (hmmm, I hope somebody picked this up from a Rogue >merc in one of my chars). Certainly. Either a cold or fire sorceress does that area well, since nothing is naturally FI in there, either. I found my one and only death's fathom down there. I hope tae hasn't let it expire on one of her characters... Nice to see you still around, Alice. SignatureIf in doubt, hit with axe. > "Alice" <malice_diablo@yahoo.com> had this idea for a movie: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > What's her chance to drop a piece of jewelry, period? I seem to only get one > in every 15-20 or so runs. No idea. I had never paid attention to drop rate, breakpoints, etc. I just played the game and saw what worked and what not. > >As Kaytie mentioned, Hell Mauseleoum is considerably tamer. In fact, this > >is a great place for a cold witch since none is naturally CI. I had [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Certainly. Either a cold or fire sorceress does that area well, since nothing > is naturally FI in there, either. Ah ha. I had never brought a fire sorcie there, so I guess I wasn't paying attention. > I found my one and only death's fathom down there. I hope tae hasn't let it > expire on one of her characters... I found one in Tunnel, a perfect 15%, lol. Found a 24% in RoF. Both are also great places for a cold witch, when RoF has no dogs. Fathom is sure nice, I wanted to build a cold witch around it since I had a Nightwings, enough cold facets for both plus a shield, and enough currency to trade for CoH. > Nice to see you still around, Alice. Nice to see you too, Hammy. I haven't left AGD, I just lurk less these days :) >> If you do run Hell pits (or other places that have ranged attackers), >> I'd suggest to cast Dim Vision ahead of you all the times. This probably helps. With a zoomaster, I usually cast DV ahead of me. After I could see what type of monsters, I would adjust the curse accordingly. If ranged type, then I would cast Attract on one, then change the curse to Amplify Damage to the surrounding groups. When facing gloams, I left the curse at DV for an obvious reason. That being done, I would click and hold CE and would keep moving my mouse cursor around so the necro will blow up each corpse once one was available. If I were to play one in HC, I would most likely get higher level DV perhaps even max it. I wouldn't raise a gloam, they have unpredictable behavior and only add to the confusion. Hi Alice, great to 'see' you. > Don't forget NM Andy, easy target. WD said she has high chance of > dropping unique rings. One thing I know, Hell Andy had given me at > least 15 Tal ammies. I've been running NM Shenk/Eldritch, Baal, Meph and Andy, in that order. If the drops were particularly bad for the Act5 bosses I would sometimes skip the others and start a new game. (It takes a while to walk an army around the durance or the catacombs). >> My question: Where am I better off MFing? I haven't found a single >> unique or [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > had found a Windy there (hmmm, I hope somebody picked this up from a > Rogue merc in one of my chars). As I mentioned to Kaytie, I've never found a single unique down there. Plenty of Isenhart's Case's, that's about it. Mind you, I guess if I did more runs there I might get more. > If you do run Hell pits (or other places that have ranged attackers), > I'd suggest to cast Dim Vision ahead of you all the times. At the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pit is that it always has 7 (IIRC) bosses, so it's a nice experience > run as well. I found a Duriel's Shell earlier today (Yay!) and wearing a Szabi's hat (+20 light res and +19 fire) I now have reasonable resists in hell. I then spent some time getting socketing quests for mules (Not as easy in HC as it is in SC) and Ptopaz'ed them both. My resists in hell look not-too-bad now, approximately 65/55/75/40. I can live with that. However, as soon as I started to try some pit runs my connection started playing up real bad. I had to exit three games in a row as the screen just froze for many seconds in a row. This is HC and that's some scary thing to happen. Once after exiting and starting a new game my life-ball was down to less than a quarter (It was full on-screen when I exited). So I've been playing SC a bit this evening. > Looking for resist charms? Don't forget that 'Shimmering' is very low > level and can spawn as early as Normal Act 1. Mule off some +2 str > sc's, they can be useful sometimes. Yep and yep. I have a charm mule with a few of most types of charms (except resist charms as they're all in use). > Looking to start trade business? Get a taste of the market first. > Make "pgems here", join "uniques 4 pgems", "trade city", etc to see [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > higher in HC than SC. Try a low number of pgems to offer for certain > items, the result may surprise you. Yeah. I dunno. For some reason I have an aversion to trading. I don't know what it is, I'm just not comfortable doing it. I must try to get past that. :-) I hope you are well Alice, -- ~misfit~ |
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