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Socket items & rare amulets
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Tora - 26 Mar 2004 17:04 GMT Thx to this group i now got an idea of the price of most items.
When is a socketed item worth anything ? Elite & max sockets possible ? Example : 4-socket boneweave, 5-socket war axe (i think), 6 socket long sword
When is a rare amulet worth anything ? + skills (1, 2, 3) and resists ?
Tora
Tora - 26 Mar 2004 17:05 GMT And plz dont answer 'When someone is willing to give something nice for it'
I've heard that sentence once too often :)
> Thx to this group i now got an idea of the price of most items. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Tora Particle Man - 26 Mar 2004 18:57 GMT > And plz dont answer 'When someone is willing to give something nice for it' > > I've heard that sentence once too often :) How about "Get your trade questions out of my face, I'm tired of seeing them spammed every 3 seconds in every channel on bnet and I'm tired of seeing them here." Is that a more satisfying answer?
Tora - 26 Mar 2004 19:53 GMT As this group is about playing Diablo2 and trading is a part of that, i dont see what's wrong with some questions about trading values. People post the weirdest things in this group so why make a problem about some trading questions ?
Tora
> > And plz dont answer 'When someone is willing to give something nice for > it' [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > spammed every 3 seconds in every channel on bnet and I'm tired of seeing > them here." Is that a more satisfying answer? Particle Man - 26 Mar 2004 19:59 GMT > As this group is about playing Diablo2 and trading is a part of that, i dont > see what's wrong with some questions about trading values. > People post the weirdest things in this group so why make a problem about > some trading questions ? Because we're completely and utterly tired of them after seeing them spammed in our faces every 3 seconds on bnet? That point is pretty inescapable. Isn't there a D2 trading newsgroup? If not, there should be. It used to be, there were actual TRADE channels on bnet. I wonder what happened to that noble idea. I remember playing in public games that were NOT spammed by bots every 15 seconds. Ah, the old days...
Tora - 26 Mar 2004 22:52 GMT Got the message, didnt mean to upset or annoy anyone with it.
> > As this group is about playing Diablo2 and trading is a part of that, i > dont [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > that noble idea. I remember playing in public games that were NOT spammed > by bots every 15 seconds. Ah, the old days... chainbreaker - 26 Mar 2004 20:19 GMT > As this group is about playing Diablo2 and trading is a part of that, > i dont see what's wrong with some questions about trading values. > People post the weirdest things in this group so why make a problem > about some trading questions ? > > Tora I don't particularly mind trading questions, but since the entire trading aspect is so volatile, there isn't really much point to either asking or answering them. It sounds smart-assed, but the answer can only always be--anything's worth only whatever you can get out of it, and any trade that you're satisfied with is a good one. There are no "values" for anything.
Now then, the sort of "trading" questions that are sometimes asked by group regulars, such as "hey, I need 'x', does anybody have one they'd be willing to trade for?" are something completely different. And as often as not, somebody just gives the person whatever it is they need.
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short - 26 Mar 2004 17:59 GMT > Thx to this group i now got an idea of the price of most items. > > When is a socketed item worth anything ? Elite & max sockets possible ? > Example : 4-socket boneweave, 5-socket war axe (i think), 6 socket long > sword It really depends on what item, and how many sockets. 2/3/4 socket armors are nice for runewords, IAS jewels, and Perfect Topaz's for the poor man's MF gear. My favorite armors are usually Boneweaves, Scarab Husk, etc. The heavier ones are in less demand, but if you can find the right Pally or Concentrate barb on the lookout for the high defense stuff, sometimes you can get a good deal for it.
I'd say a war axe isn't even worth selling. I've seen people looking for: Berserker Axes, Glorious Axes, Decapitator Axes...I think one more but can't remember what it was offhand.
Long Swords aren't valuable either, people like the Phase Blades, Cryptic swords, Colossus blades, Colossus swords, and a few others. Mostly the elites though. The value is going to differ though, depending on what runeword they're wanting to make, of course.
> When is a rare amulet worth anything ? + skills (1, 2, 3) and resists ? +2 skills on an Ammy has potential, depending on theother mods. Get 25 resist all and some leech, and you could have yourself some trading ammunition.
+3's are harder to trade (at least for me) because they are usually blue, so less tasty secondary mods.
short
Tora - 26 Mar 2004 19:55 GMT Thx, that's more than satisfying :)
> > Thx to this group i now got an idea of the price of most items. > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > short short - 26 Mar 2004 20:39 GMT I aim to please :o)
Just don't let it happen again.
short - Just kidding!! :)
> Thx, that's more than satisfying :) > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > > > short Bingain - 26 Mar 2004 22:09 GMT > Thx to this group i now got an idea of the price of most items. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > When is a rare amulet worth anything ? + skills (1, 2, 3) and resists ? Only two kinds of socketed items (or white items) are worthy. One is for low level duelers, another is for highend runewords. In both cases, ethereal superior ones may score higher than a regular one.
Let's take boneweave as an example. People may want one for their CoH or Enigma runewords. Since they are putting in extremely expensive runewords, most would look for the best possible armors they can get. They'll usually want high def low str ones. In this respect Boneweave is slightly inferior to an Archon plate; both have similar defense rating, but Archon needs much less str to wear. Also, you should look at the def on your Boneweave, which has a range from 399-505. If it's at ~500, you may get a chance; if it's around ~400, better sell it to Charsi (and buy Bing a drink); if it's superior, esp >+12% def one, it's even better. Ethereal ones with def bonus (600+ def) may score high for those thinking of making highend runewords for their mercs.
For low level duelers, they usually want max socketed items with least req. Long sword is not a good choice for them because of the dex req (they use Negal/Angelic rings for the AR and don't nearly use dex at all). Furhtermore, if it is something that can be easily bought from town folks and get socketed by Larzuk, then it's not worth much. Some of these LLD's are very generous but recently as I've seen, most generous traders have disappeared after selling their stuff on paypal. Good luck finding one.
For rare amulet, the guideline is very simple. If you find one, moan, and would save game right away so you won't lose it to lag, or so excited that you will think about building a char for it, then likely it will have a high trading value. If you pick up one, and think that you can get something decent from a stupid arse, then, there aren't that many rich stupid arses out there.
Actually, it's not just rare amulets that can be valuable. I have a +3 necro summon +92 life magical amulet that I got a lot of enquiries (from MH users peeking at what I was wearing), and they offered big for it. But then, since I play HC, the +life part of the ammy means a great deal to other HC players. In SC, it would likely have a much lower value.
Bing
Tora - 26 Mar 2004 22:49 GMT Thx, Bing
> > Thx to this group i now got an idea of the price of most items. > > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Bing Frohike - 27 Mar 2004 03:36 GMT > Thx to this group i now got an idea of the price of most items. > > When is a socketed item worth anything ? Elite & max sockets possible ? > Example : 4-socket boneweave, 5-socket war axe (i think), 6 socket long > sword I'm not sure but I know a 6-socket ethereal CB or berserker axe are much coveted. I'm still looking for either.
> When is a rare amulet worth anything ? + skills (1, 2, 3) and resists ? A +2 ammy with 2 resists is good. Great if there's MF. A +3 to a skill tree magic ammy with 20+ MF is my favorite.
> Tora Darrel Hoffman - 28 Mar 2004 03:18 GMT > Thx to this group i now got an idea of the price of most items. > > When is a socketed item worth anything ? Elite & max sockets possible ? > Example : 4-socket boneweave, 5-socket war axe (i think), 6 socket long > sword It all depends. Here's an example. Say you find a socketed staff with some good skill bonuses. If it has 2 sockets, it could be valuable because you could make Leaf out of it. If it has 4 sockets, it could be worth it for Memory. If it has 3 sockets, it's pretty much worthless, since there's no good runeword for staves that has 3 runes. Other things that are worthless: anything with just 1 socket. There's no runeword that has just 1 rune. No sockets is better than 1 socket, since you can go get Larzuk to add sockets, and if it's a white item, you'll usually get more than 1. Sorc orbs with sockets - useless since the only runeword that could possibly work is Venom, and that's pretty much pointless in an orb. Plus, almost none of the runes/gems/jewels you can get will do much good for a sorc in a weapon (with the almost solitary exception of Rainbow Facets.) Anything both socketed and ethereal - with the exception of 5-socket melee weapons (for Eternity) or 6-socket weapons (for BotD). It's possible somebody might want them for a merc, but that limits the trade value significantly. (Thus, any weapons a merc can't use that are socketed and ethereal are pretty much completely out.) Also, items which are normal quality (as opposed to Exceptional and Elite) probably won't be worth much, unless they're staves/wands/scepters/class-specific items with good spell bonuses. Even Exceptional ones won't be that popular. Thus, 6-socket long sword - crap. Especially since you can make one yourself with a cheap cube formula. Either use it yourself (might be fun filled with Emeralds) or chuck it. I don't think anybody will want that enough to give you something for it.
Darrel Hoffman - Lvl 26+2 Game Guru (Imagining BotD on a Long Sword...)
u - 28 Mar 2004 04:16 GMT don't forget geo's 10-89 dmg BoTD long bow.
*start giggling*
Anex.......Explodeazon, I STILL get a kick out of that!
"Darrel Hoffman" <i.dont@think.so> wrote in message >
> Darrel Hoffman - Lvl 26+2 Game Guru > (Imagining BotD on a Long Sword...) geo - 28 Mar 2004 07:37 GMT >don't forget geo's 10-89 dmg BoTD long bow. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Darrel Hoffman - Lvl 26+2 Game Guru >> (Imagining BotD on a Long Sword...) *laughs* I'mm never live that one down, will I, u?
geo (who thinks it better to be remembered for something silly than for nothing at all)
"Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither" -Benjamin Franklin
u - 28 Mar 2004 19:56 GMT is it rubbing it in too much reminding you that you could have got better damage out of that long bow by socketing 6 perfect emeralds into it?
Anex.....Explodeazon,
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> >don't forget geo's 10-89 dmg BoTD long bow. > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > "Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither" -Benjamin Franklin
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