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RichZ - 07 Jul 2008 18:38 GMT

I am playing as a Barbarian, SP, ACT IV, Nightmare, with an ACT II Might
Merc. Using Frenzy/Double Swing, I am inflicting massage amounts of
damage, which results in dying immediately when an Oblivian Knight casts
Iron Maiden. Is this just the basic flaw with this type of build, and
is there any recourse around this? Thanks

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Kinlaw - 07 Jul 2008 18:48 GMT

>I am playing as a Barbarian, SP, ACT IV, Nightmare, with an ACT II Might
>Merc. Using Frenzy/Double Swing, I am inflicting massage amounts of
>damage, which results in dying immediately when an Oblivian Knight casts
>Iron Maiden. Is this just the basic flaw with this type of build, and is
>there any recourse around this? Thanks

Unfortunately OK's are just the barbarians kryptonite.

Nothing you can do but run away and wait for the curse to leave, and then
try something else. You can't stop it, and they always cast it.

I honestly can't remember how I got my barb through in single player, but
online I was always with a group. Someone would call out "okies!", and the
big bad barb would run away.

Maybe berserk, as it is magic damage, or get yourself a bow. I can't
remember if using berserk triggers it though.

Sorry I can't give you a quick fix answer.

Kin

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RichZ - 07 Jul 2008 19:16 GMT

>> I am playing as a Barbarian, SP, ACT IV, Nightmare, with an ACT II Might
>> Merc. Using Frenzy/Double Swing, I am inflicting massage amounts of
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> Kin

Thanks. Does all damage get converted to Magic damage by Beserk, or
only physical?

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Jason - 07 Jul 2008 19:22 GMT

> >> I am playing as a Barbarian, SP, ACT IV, Nightmare, with an ACT II Might
> >> Merc. Using Frenzy/Double Swing, I am inflicting massage amounts of
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> Thanks. Does all damage get converted to Magic damage by Beserk, or
> only physical?

Berserk converts all damage to magic. You can safely berserk around
OK's without fear. Just grab a high-block shield and a massive damage
1-h weapon and have at it!

Alternately, you can use thrown items, but unless you are explicitly
making a throw barb, I would not recommend this option outside of
normal since the damage w/out mastery is just so very low.

-Jason

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RichZ - 07 Jul 2008 19:35 GMT

>>>> I am playing as a Barbarian, SP, ACT IV, Nightmare, with an ACT II Might
>>>> Merc. Using Frenzy/Double Swing, I am inflicting massage amounts of
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> -Jason

I have been strictly using 2 weapons w/dbl swing. Is it viable to cast
War Cry (2.4 second stun), then Beserk, then wail away for a couple of
seconds? I will have to level up as I havent put any points in Beserk
yet. I read that if you have Defense = 0, and a shield, you might end
up blocking all the time?

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Jason - 08 Jul 2008 19:14 GMT

> >>>> I am playing as a Barbarian, SP, ACT IV, Nightmare, with an ACT II Might
> >>>> Merc. Using Frenzy/Double Swing, I am inflicting massage amounts of
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> yet. I read that if you have Defense = 0, and a shield, you might end
> up blocking all the time?

That is a valid concern.

Usually I only put 1 point in Berserk, and I only use that against
physical immunes, or while in areas where there are oblivion knights.
Block-lock has never really been a problem for me. Yeah, it can be
annoying get that clink-clink-clink sound with the swing-stutter
action, but it's temporary, and eventually the bad guys are all dead
anyway. One thing that I NEVER do it berserk in a crowd w/out a
shield. That's plain suicide.

Well, that's not really true. As you mentioned, War Cry will stun the
enemies around you. Unfortunately, 2.4 seconds is not that long, and
it goes fast! I only bother to use War Cry if I intend to max it. With
max War Cry, you can safely berserk without a shield, although I would
still recommend the shield.

My last barbarian had 20 hard point in War Cry, and he was the most
fun of all my barbarians (and I have made a lot of barbarians!) Ever
since then, I cannot imagine a barbarian foolish enough to not max
that skill. :)

-Jason

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sparks - 09 Jul 2008 12:43 GMT

I asked a friend who plays barbs a LOT
he said get a wand with a bunch of magic damage.
you know wand does 6 damage that will come back to you.
+120 lightning
+240 fire
that sort of wand...
buy them from the vendors in town

he said its slow but there are only a few of these guys in this one
level.

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royls@telus.net - 16 Jul 2008 18:18 GMT

You can have Double Throw, a big elemental damage wand, or Berserk on
switch.

Be aware that if you use Berserk and run out of mana or are mana
burned, you can make a normal attack and die.

-- Roy L

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RichZ - 16 Jul 2008 19:21 GMT

>> I am playing as a Barbarian, SP, ACT IV, Nightmare, with an ACT II Might
>> Merc. Using Frenzy/Double Swing, I am inflicting massage amounts of
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> -- Roy L

Thanks Roy. I did use Beserk on switch to get by this level. I hadnt
thought of the mana burn scenario, but I dont think it impacted me.

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