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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / Diablo 2 / July 2008Well, I know everyone's stoked about D3, but...
What's everyone doing D2 related in the meantime? I know a lot of people started ladder characters, who all went ladder and what character class/build are you working on now? Any noteworthy finds yet, etc. Me, I've been working on my nova sorc. I had one in .09 back when they dominated, and I loved the build then, but I wanted an updated version for 1.12. I was debating going dual element, but ultimately decided single element+energy shield was gonna be the route I went, since I've never done an ES sorc before and thought I'd like to give it a try. Turns out, while it doesn't match the massive kill speed of an 09 nova sorc, the build is still verrrry strong at least for PvM play. I know the damage is far less than that of a regular lightning sorc, but with -155 total enemy light resist, few things are immune to me and it kills plenty fast even in 8 player hell games, especially with Static helping out. And between ES and an insight merc(with a 17 medi insight), she's basically unkillable against anything that isn't manaburn, and can even survive manaburners in many cases. She has around 1k life and 60 FHR which allows her to surive a couple hits and teleport away even if burned, and somewhere around 2.2k mana to soak up most of the damage she takes. She's wearing a 13 mdr upped Viper which helps negate some of the elemental damage that seeps through ES(her resistances are all in the 50 range except for poison which is 75) and I keep a row of antidote pots on my belt to deal with poison being able to bypass ES. Very fun character to play, and it's really nice to have a single element sorc who can effectively deal with immunes withOUT having to rely on keeping her merc alive. > What's everyone doing D2 related in the meantime? I know a lot of people > started ladder characters, who all went ladder and what character [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > have a single element sorc who can effectively deal with immunes withOUT > having to rely on keeping her merc alive. I started a fire/cold ladder sorc but have been ignoring her, spending my time with my non-ladder j-zon. But I will fire her up again and try to catch up with you. Kinlaw *regkinlaw, US West, SC > I started a fire/cold ladder sorc Fireball/orb I'm guessing? > but have been ignoring her, spending my time with my non-ladder j-zon. I've yet to start a new ladder char this season. Don't know if I will, either. > But I will fire her up again and try to catch up with you. Well, my sorc is NL, level 89, as of last night. > Kinlaw > > *regkinlaw, US West, SC >> I started a fire/cold ladder sorc > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> *regkinlaw, US West, SC Oh, you mean non-ladder. Well, my non-ladder baby is about to kill normal Baal, and while I have had a lot of fun playing throught the game step by step (every way point, every quest), it's time to move on, get to some power leveling and get into hell. I have your account(s) in my friends list, I'll give you a shout when I get to hell. PS From a post a few months back about Baal runs: > A strong bowazon is always useful for artillery support too, Well, unless she has a torch on, in which case the game will likely be dropped. Just curious as to what you meant by that. > PS From a post a few months back about Baal runs: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Just curious as to what you meant by that. The Firestorm from Hellfire Torch has a tendency to drop games if it goes off too frequently, and multishot tends to set it off very frequently. >> I started a fire/cold ladder sorc > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> *regkinlaw, US West, SCx PS I didn't mean catch up with your char level, just meet up on line. > PS I didn't mean catch up with your char level, just meet up on line. Works for me, I'm on D_Shiflet4 the most these days, so keep your eyes open for that one;-) While pondering glazed doughnuts Shiflet <rshiflet@charter.net> mistakenly typed : What's everyone doing D2 related in the meantime? I know a lot of people : started ladder characters, who all went ladder and what character : class/build are you working on now? Any noteworthy finds yet, etc. I decided to try a frost zealot after reading of some success with them here in agd or agd2. I'd never tried holy freeze before and have just killed baal at level 31. It's really been a breeze so far I have to admit. I've managed to gamble some decent rares considering it's in normal mode, but nothing hands down fantastic. I'm using some 3 socket flail with some gems for added lightning damage. I have a 2 socket pally shield with one flawless stuffed in it. All resists are maxxed and things have been overly easy. We shall see when I progress to nm and hell if that continues. In any case, so far this build seems very viable and pretty fun to see how slow all the monsters get. I've been making sure to keep a very fast attack speed weapon on and many monsters die before they even get one swing in on me. -dave > In any case, so far this build seems very viable and pretty fun to see > how slow all the monsters get. I've been making sure to keep a very > fast attack speed weapon on and many monsters die before they even get > one swing in on me. Yeah, it's a strong build. Are you pre frost, or have a backup for when you eventually encounter CIs? > -dave While pondering glazed doughnuts Shiflet <rshiflet@charter.net> mistakenly typed : > In any case, so far this build seems very viable and pretty fun to see : > how slow all the monsters get. I've been making sure to keep a very [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : Yeah, it's a strong build. Are you pre frost, or have a backup for when you : eventually encounter CIs? So far I am pure frost. I don't really have a grand plan in mind for dealing with CI's as of yet, but it seems like I should be able to deal with them effectively enough with some crushing blow in addition to holy freeze. Any experience with this or ideas? -dave I think it was Dave Ryan <dryan@isis.visi.com> that wrote something like... >While pondering glazed doughnuts Shiflet <rshiflet@charter.net> mistakenly typed >: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Any experience with this or ideas? >-dave Misfit's had a fair amount of experience with freezalots. But for cold/physical immunes you would just zeal away with a weapon that's got a pile of fire/lightning damage on it. Alternatively, a weapon with a chance to cast amp damage or decrep will handle just about any type of physical immunity. I believe it's only the bosses with stone skin that are already of the physical immune type that can't have that immunity broken by amp damage. That's not all that common an occurance, and it's never going to be on any mobs that matter, so you can ignore em if you wanted. All other physical/cold immunes, once they're no longer physical immune from decrep or amp damage, a pile of crushing blow will take em down easy enough. Ashen Shugar  SignatureThe lions sing and the hills take flight. The moon by day, and the sun by night. Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool. Let the Lord of Chaos rule! While pondering glazed doughnuts Ashen Shugar <deathsabyss@yahoo.com.au> mistakenly typed : I think it was Dave Ryan <dryan@isis.visi.com> that wrote something : like... [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] : immunes, once they're no longer physical immune from decrep or amp : damage, a pile of crushing blow will take em down easy enough. Thanks for the ideas. I was figuring on some high elemental damage wand as one option and a high damage weapon as another and just deal with the one off monsters as needed. -dave Somewhere on teh intarweb "Ashen Shugar" typed: > I think it was Dave Ryan <dryan@isis.visi.com> that wrote something > like... [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Misfit's had a fair amount of experience with freezalots. Hehee! Sure have. I find CI's to be not a problem as the physical component of the damage is usually high. Vice-versa for PIs. As for CI/PI, I generally have a DemonLimb on switch for the Enchant charges to add fire damage (and AR) and a charm or two (or other sources of lightning damage such as ThunderGod's Vigor). I just keep beating on them and they go down. Sooner rather than later. Also, I usually equip my (Might) merc with an big eth Obedience stick which is self-enchanting (lvl 21) and has -25% enemy fire damage so he's doing a bunch of fire damage. It's a nice compliment ot the Pally's cold and physical damage. Obediance is an awesome runeword. I usually use eth Threshers as they get 5 holes from Larzuk. 40% CB, the above-mentioned fire damage, all resistances +20 - 30%, 40% FHR.... Hard to beat, especially for a Freezealot's merc. > But for cold/physical immunes you would just zeal away with a weapon > that's got a pile of fire/lightning damage on it. Alternatively, a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > immunes, once they're no longer physical immune from decrep or amp > damage, a pile of crushing blow will take em down easy enough. I've played Freezealots with no source of AD or decrep (although they'd sure help) and have never had to give up on a monster yet. The only thing that gives them pause is IM. Luck. SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) > So far I am pure frost. I don't really have a grand plan in mind for > dealing with CI's as of yet, but it seems like I should be able to deal > with them effectively enough with some crushing blow in addition to holy > freeze. CBlow can't kill, and HF does cold damage, it will slow CIs, but won't actually hurt them. There's a couple of choices here. One, be using a fairly decent damage weapon so that you'll do a reasonable amount of physical damage as well as cold. This method works, as long as you have something that hits reasonably hard, but that's not always a guarantee especially on a new ladder season. Second, shop a wand with high elemental damage(you can buy wands that have like 200+ fire and lightning damage), though this can still be fairly slow in games with several people in them. Third, use skillpoints. It takes 60 skill points to max HF and it's 2 synergies, which assuming your character goes to 75 and does all skill quests and, will STILL leave you with around 20 points to spend after pre-reqs are taken out. You can put a few of those points in Fana to give yourself a fair boost to your physical damage for use vs CIs, or you can use Vengeance or Holy Shock(both of which will receive a synergy boost from Salvation too)... And of course, if you have a decent merc weapon you can always try and rely on him to deal with CIs... > Any experience with this or ideas? > -dave While pondering glazed doughnuts Shiflet <rshiflet@charter.net> mistakenly typed : > So far I am pure frost. I don't really have a grand plan in mind for : > dealing with CI's as of yet, but it seems like I should be able to deal [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] : if you have a decent merc weapon you can always try and rely on him to deal : with CIs... Thanks for the thoughts. I'll start with the elemental damage wand and see what I can find for high damage weapon. Probably I'll not deal with the skillpoint aspect of this until later in NM so I have some time to decide. Good ideas, thanks. -dave > While pondering glazed doughnuts Shiflet <rshiflet@charter.net> mistakenly > typed [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > -dave While totally viable and fun, it gets a lot harder later on playing a frost zealot solo - believe me :-) Pity here's virtually no decent co-op play nowadays as the chilling effect is great in a team. SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. > What's everyone doing D2 related in the meantime? I know a lot of people > started ladder characters, who all went ladder and what character [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > who can effectively deal with immunes withOUT having to rely on keeping her > merc alive. Since the D3 announcement has rekindled my interest and I'm done with WoW I'm searching for my install discs for D2 and LOD! Somewhere on teh intarweb "Shiflet" typed: > What's everyone doing D2 related in the meantime? I know a lot of > people started ladder characters, who all went ladder and what [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > it's really nice to have a single element sorc who can effectively > deal with immunes withOUT having to rely on keeping her merc alive. I haven't played on the new ladder yet, don't know if I will.... However I started playing 1.09d/Gemstone 1.5/PlugY 7.01b around a month back and, two days ago my strafer hit the level 99 mark. It took a lot of players 8 cows but I got there. :-) Currently playing a summoning necro, I forgot how different they are in 1.09, I have over 100 summons at level 65 or so, all of which (except the merc) die fairly easilly and do little damage. I don't think I'll play ladder again but I've been known to change my mind... I must get around to rationalising my off-ladder chars, I'll keep one playing account I think (instead of the three or so I have now from the last three ladders) with the best gear I have on those. I'll give you a call when I do that as I'll still have plenty gear left to pass on. Cheers, SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) > I haven't played on the new ladder yet, don't know if I will.... > > However I started playing 1.09d/Gemstone 1.5/PlugY 7.01b around a month > back and, two days ago my strafer hit the level 99 mark. It took a lot of > players 8 cows but I got there. :-) Never tried any mods... > Currently playing a summoning necro, I forgot how different they are in > 1.09, I have over 100 summons at level 65 or so, all of which (except the > merc) die fairly easilly and do little damage. Yeah, 09 summons not too strong;-) > I don't think I'll play ladder again but I've been known to change my > mind... I must get around to rationalising my off-ladder chars, I'll keep > one playing account I think (instead of the three or so I have now from > the last three ladders) with the best gear I have on those. I'll give you > a call when I do that as I'll still have plenty gear left to pass on. Whee, thanks! > Cheers, > What's everyone doing D2 related in the meantime? I know a lot of people > started ladder characters, who all went ladder and what character [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > have a single element sorc who can effectively deal with immunes withOUT > having to rely on keeping her merc alive. I got a summancer & sorc upto about 80 on Europe, Ladder, SC, LOD then decided I needed a quick way of getting runes for trading so went to work on some classic-rushers. I now also have a summancer and sorc to about 80 on Europe, SC, Classic too. Im now able to take full groups (7 mules) through Norm/NM and upto 6 mules through Hell-Act2 with a friend (which means I normally only take 6 mules to start with). I use my Orb/TS/Static sorc in classic upto ClawVipers... then switch to the necro while my Orb/FB friend kills the ClawViper & Durial :) Im thinking of creating a classic-hammerdin to replace the necro for hell... but we'll see :) > What's everyone doing D2 related in the meantime? I know a lot of people > started ladder characters, who all went ladder and what character [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > who can effectively deal with immunes withOUT having to rely on keeping her > merc alive. Sounds fun. Me - I'm just playing my sole remaining D2 character on US West (or anywhere for that matter) - a Skellimancer with a thorns merc. Not the toughest build, but lots of fun :-) Why do I only have the one character left? I started playing WoW six months ago. Funny thing is I just cancelled my six monthly renewal, and especially now D3 is on the horizon I find myself less and less interested in WoW and wanting the kind of fun co-op play I had in D1. Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. >Why do I only have the one character left? I started playing WoW six >months ago. Funny thing is I just cancelled my six monthly renewal, and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Regards, > Jamie Kahn Genet What server were you on? Many of the old AGD crowd ended up on Llane, in the Justus guild ;-) ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com > >Why do I only have the one character left? I started playing WoW six > >months ago. Funny thing is I just cancelled my six monthly renewal, and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > ald > reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com US West now for D2. But you mean back in D1 days? Wasn't there only one choice originally? *scratches head* I played D1 obsessively back in 1998 - 1999 IIRC, and on and off since then till this very day. My account has always been Wizardling. Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. >US West now for D2. But you mean back in D1 days? Wasn't there only one >choice originally? *scratches head* I played D1 obsessively back in 1998 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Regards, > Jamie Kahn Genet I believe Ald meant which WoW server were you on? That's what he meant by a lot of us ending up on Llane. I've been a member of Justus since I started playing WoW, back in Jan '05... Sheesh 3 1/2 years... WoW (pun intended) >>US West now for D2. But you mean back in D1 days? Wasn't there only one >>choice originally? *scratches head* I played D1 obsessively back in 1998 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I started playing WoW, back in Jan '05... Sheesh 3 1/2 years... WoW >(pun intended) Indeed I did ;-) I've also been a Justus member since I started playing, I *hope* it hasn't been quite that long, but I've kind of lost track ;-) ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com > >>US West now for D2. But you mean back in D1 days? Wasn't there only one > >>choice originally? *scratches head* I played D1 obsessively back in 1998 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > ald > reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com *groans* If only I'd known. I was on Khaz'goroth. Damnit - now I'm tempted to return to WoW... SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. >*groans* If only I'd known. I was on Khaz'goroth. Damnit - now I'm >tempted to return to WoW... We'd love to have you if you come back. We have a solid group, no major problems, and people have fun. We don't really raid as a guild besides Kara, but I don't see the harm in not raiding so I'm quite happy with that. >>*groans* If only I'd known. I was on Khaz'goroth. Damnit - now I'm >>tempted to return to WoW... >We'd love to have you if you come back. We have a solid group, no >major problems, and people have fun. We don't really raid as a guild >besides Kara, but I don't see the harm in not raiding so I'm quite >happy with that. Agreed, since my schedule doesn't really allow me to raid (except for Kara, which we conveniently do the first half of on Saturday, one of my days off), I'm also quite happy with our group of fun, knowledgeable people. If, however, you wish to raid, well, while rumor has it that the direct spinoff raiding guild (split from Justus a few months before I started playing) is on it's last legs (although I still see quite a few of them around), there are a couple other raiding guilds that have more than a few former Justus members in them, and all of the former members still have toons in the guild, so I'd imagine it shouldn't be too hard to arrange ;-) We also have a shared channel with those raiding groups, and a few others, so it's not impossible to pick up a spot in a semi-PuG raiding group. ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com > >>*groans* If only I'd known. I was on Khaz'goroth. Damnit - now I'm > >>tempted to return to WoW... [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > ald > reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com My play style is... was ...may be again... :-D exploration and completetion of every single quest under the sun, heh. I find it difficult to abandon them... OCD? LOL. I like helping others with raids so long as our levels match. Cakewalks are not fun for me. It's also fun just to chat in WoW - I did a lot of that. Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. I think it was jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) that wrote something like... >> >>*groans* If only I'd known. I was on Khaz'goroth. Damnit - now I'm >> >>tempted to return to WoW... [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >Regards, > Jamie Kahn Genet If your cake walks aren't fun, you're not doing em right. ; ) Two warlocks, frost mage (aoe specialist), warrior tank and a healer. Warrior charges in, Warlocks cast Seed of Corruption, Mages starts blizzarding. Warrior pulls the next group while the warlocks and mage finish of the first one. Repeat until you to get to a boss or end up pulling so many you all die. ; ) It's a lot like playing Diablo 2 in some ways actually. ; ) Ashen Shugar SignatureThe lions sing and the hills take flight. The moon by day, and the sun by night. Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool. Let the Lord of Chaos rule! >My play style is... was ...may be again... :-D exploration and >completetion of every single quest under the sun, heh. I find it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Regards, > Jamie Kahn Genet Yeah, you'd fit right in with the Justus crowd ;-) Yesterday, I was trying to get the Hellfire Fortifications quest for my new-in-Outlands Rogue, she got killed twice because I wouldn't stop chatting in Guild long enough to defend her. Although I admit, after the 4th death from this one-level above her Warlock, who'd also killed the other Ally who had come along at least twice (60 Warrior), I *did* ask for help in Guild, and got a 70 Hunter. Of course, by the time he got there (and I'd finished my fourth corpse run) the Warlock was nowhere to be found ;-) ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com > >>*groans* If only I'd known. I was on Khaz'goroth. Damnit - now I'm > >>tempted to return to WoW... [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > ald > reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com The Myrms are dieing? Aww man.... I hate when that happens. Orion >> >>*groans* If only I'd known. I was on Khaz'goroth. Damnit - now I'm >> >>tempted to return to WoW... [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Orion That *was* the rumor, but from personal observance it seems to be premature ;-) Other than someone spamming Trade about a strip club in SW (and using their name), they still seem to be alive and well. ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com > Sounds fun. Me - I'm just playing my sole remaining D2 character on US > West (or anywhere for that matter) - a Skellimancer with a thorns merc. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Regards, > Jamie Kahn Genet Jamie, is your account name wizardling, or wizardling23? I have been playing a lot these days, and I agree, the fun is in group play. The only group play for me since I have been back has been Baal running. It would be fun to meet up with some agders some night. I'm *regkinlaw, SCx and SCL (but my ladder chars are young) Kinlaw > > Sounds fun. Me - I'm just playing my sole remaining D2 character on US > > West (or anywhere for that matter) - a Skellimancer with a thorns merc. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Kinlaw Wizardling nowadays. I've one new Skellimancer in SCL on US West. New enough that it's not set in stone :-) Email me if you'd like to level together. What I'd really like to do is play co-op from level 1 on up with some friends - kill everything, explore everywhere, leave no stone unturned, just for fun. I don't know whether that style of play still appeals to anyone. Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. > > > Sounds fun. Me - I'm just playing my sole remaining D2 character on US > > > West (or anywhere for that matter) - a Skellimancer with a thorns merc. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > unturned, just for fun. I don't know whether that style of play still > appeals to anyone. A few of us still play that way. There's even a few that won't except gifts, even if they were dropped in the same game. wizofwas > It would be fun to meet up with some agders some night. > > I'm *regkinlaw, SCx and SCL (but my ladder chars are young) I'm on almost every night between 1 am and 7 am central time, usually on D_Shiflet or D_Shiflet4. All nl for me, but if you ever want a char chaosed, rushed, or baaled, just lemme know. > Kinlaw |
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