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Game Forum / Role Playing Games / Diablo 2 / July 2008Diablo III announced!!
More info! http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/ Enjoy this wonderful day people! > More info! > > http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/ > > Enjoy this wonderful day people! Well bugger me... Never thought i'd see the day. >> More info! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Well bugger me... Never thought i'd see the day. but... but... but.... ummmm... wtf?! Its a trick!!! >>> More info! >>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > but... but... but.... ummmm... wtf?! > Its a trick!!! ..isnt it?! *worried he's dreaming or going insane* >>> More info! >>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > but... but... but.... ummmm... wtf?! > Its a trick!!! it's beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>>> More info! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > it's beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im not sure what to do. I dont know if I like the news or not. I've been waiting, hoping & dreaming so long. What if it doesnt live upto our expectations? What if its pay2play as I cant afford that? What if the barbarian mocks me for crying when its finally released? Its like dating your perfect partner online... then meeting them for the first time... ...Im shell-shocked and when its released... Im gonna be a nervous wreck :¬/ > Im not sure what to do. > I dont know if I like the news or not. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > ...Im shell-shocked and when its released... Im gonna be a nervous wreck > :¬/ The only what-if I'm wondering about is what if they charge a rediculous fee to play online. The success of WOW must have them counting the possible cha-ching of this franchise. There's room on your Visa, right? Somewhere on teh intarweb "Steve Humiston" typed: >> Im not sure what to do. >> I dont know if I like the news or not. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > counting the possible cha-ching of this franchise. There's room on > your Visa, right? They will or they won't. We shall see. However, I see that they've learned well from WoW. Only two character classes on release? What's the bet that there will be regular, expensive expansions available to give new classes, maps etc.? So, even though they're catering for SP (woohooo!!!) I'm thinking that, even soloists are going to be bled dry if they want to keep up with the latest... I bet levels are capped to start too.  SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) > Somewhere on teh intarweb "Steve Humiston" typed: > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > be bled dry if they want to keep up with the latest... I bet levels are > capped to start too. Relaaaax children. From the official FAQ: How many character classes are included in Diablo III? What are they? Five character classes will be included in the game, two of which, the barbarian and witch doctor, were revealed when the game was announced at the 2008 Blizzard Entertainment Worldwide Invitational. The other classes will be announced at a later date. Everyone just needs ta calmdown lol, its like with SC2, Blizzard teasing us through the Protoss and Terran and waiting months before we saw the all-new Zerg. They'll stretch out the other 3 classes for at least 6 months. Heres something I grabbed from gamereplays.org which was a transcript from somewhere else: Recently, the press had a Q&A session with Jay Wilson, Diablo 3's lead developer, and Frank Pearce, Blizzard's vice president. Here's what the two had to say on Blizzard's latest project, Diablo 3. Q: If I'm a WoW player - why should I be excited about D3? A: It’s a very easy game, it's quick so it can be played in a small time frame, and because it's a great co-operative game. Q: Engine? A: It's a brand new engine developed in-house a few years ago (they don't name their engines). Q: Release date? A: When it's done. Q: How long has it been in development? A: Development was still taking place in Blizz North before it was shut down. It was in dev there for two years, and for two and a half years in Irvine since. Q: How was it kept a secret for so long? A: We’re a very security oriented company because we know the returns an announcement like this gives us. And it's the employees. They're very proud of their work. They like to keep it under wraps. Q: Was this the Hydra project? A: We don't publicly talk about our codenames. Q: Will Diablo III have eSports potential? A: We have plans to add PVP and competitive elements and eSports are very important to us but at this time we have no further comment. Q: Is there a limit to the number of players in the same game? A: Right now it's eight-ish. It's really about the co-operative feel to the game and the gameplay value that a certain number provides. We're experimenting with less. But we haven't decided. Q: Will gameplay differ by the number of participants? A: We aren't revealing some features that address this yet. But the wealth system is co-operative. The loot is no longer fought over. What you see drop is just for you. It's based on your character class etc. Q: Will D3 be available for the MAC? A: Yes Q: How many classes will there be? A: We haven't decided on a final number but there will be several more. Q: Will D3 be available for any consoles? A: Blizzard has an interest in breaking into console gaming but we have no plans to do so at this time. Q: Will the NPC's from D2 be present in D3? A: Not all of the characters will make it. Q: Could you tell us a bit more about the monster design? A: They're meant to be cooperative. Like the summoners, or others that can buff their comrades - they're supposed to contribute to each other’s strengths. But there are so many more monsters to reveal. Q: Will there be auction houses? A: We haven't made a decision about auction houses. The ad-hoc trading in D2 wasn't the best of experiences for the gamer and we want that to be the best it can be. We're very focused on the experience of the player. So we'll probably revamp it. Q: How large is the dev team? A: Somewhere around 50-55 members. Q: Where does the story pick up? A: It starts twenty years later. Essentially it's a period that's far enough away from the invasion. It's far enough away that most people think that it's mostly mystical. Any characters that lived and experienced the events of D2 directly have mostly gone mad. This is to distance the game from its predecessor. It also raises some good questions - like why did Hell's invasion not occur? We have some very good answers to those questions. Q: Will there be something similar to the WoW armory for D3? A: We have definite intentions to add functionality on the web. But right now it's just to early to talk about. Q: Will the maps still be randomly generated? A: Yes, and we're experimenting with randomizing in different ways such as random weapons, monsters etc. There will be some static levels/ sequences. Also we're trying something new called Adventures - which are random events. Q: Will there be strong scenario scenes like D2 (desert, jungle, etc)? A: Yes, those are good for gaming - since it's bland to play in something that isn't clearly defined. Tristram will reappear and the teaser obviously shows others, like the cities and other such ones. Q: Will there be custom gear? A: Yes, there'll be all sorts of crazy stuff. Q: Are you worried about people leaving WoW for D3? A: We don't really look at it that way - they're still playing Blizzard games and there isn't as much overlap as you'd think. Q: Will there be real physics? A: Yes, but some events will be scripted. The player will be able to tell the difference when he's supposed to use the environment to accomplish something. And interaction with the environment is definitely encouraged. Q: Will there be a difficulty structure like D2? A: Yes, but we haven't decided on anything. Q: Will hardcore mode be included? A: There's no reason not to - it's a popular feature. Q: Will there be physics puzzles? A: We could if we wanted to but we're more of a “kill monsters team building” than a “kill lots of monsters” game. Q: Will it follow a subscription model or will it be free to play out of the box? A: We haven't decided on our financial model. Q: What is the most important aspect of the game? A: The character driven elements. This is an RP game with a lot of lore that drives the game. Q: Will there be an end game? A: We haven't decided but if we do it will be very cool. Q: What options are available to customize our characters before starting the game? A: Just the gender. Q: Will the gender of your character have any affect on the gameplay experience? A: No. Q: Will bosses have their own levels similar to WoW? A: The simple answer is yes. We use games like Zelda and WoW as inspiration for our monsters. But we're trying to improve upon those as well. Q: Will there be a Secret Cow Level? A: No comment. Q: Will the town portal system of movement still be used or are you going to make it more sophisticated? A: We'll probably change it but we haven’t decided yet. Q: Will there be mounts? A: We talked about it but we decided that no, there won't be. Q: Will there be a demo/beta? A: It will probably follow the same system as other Blizzard releases. And this means? Probably a closed beta. sad.gif Q: What's the primary difference between D2 and D3? A: The character classes are different and the emphasis on the character driven story. The monster design is more focused and so is the level design. Also there's more opportunity to be engaged in the story but you won't be forced into it. Q: Will there be seasonal events like in WoW? A: Good idea, but it is far too early to decide that. Q: Will the items be tied better to the lore? A: All the major weapons will have a better tie - obviously not everything but we'll be tying lots more than in D2. Q: Will the Horadric cube make a return? A: No comment. Q: Will mule characters still be needed/allowed? A: We're going to make trading between your characters much easier. We have lots of ideas that we're not ready to talk about for making inventories better, etc. Q: Will private servers be supported? A: No. Q: Will you continue to support SC and D2 even after their sequels are released? A: Yes, we'll continue to support our legacy games as long as there's a community and people that play them. Q: Will there be a built-in voice feature? A: We haven't reached a decision but definitely probable. Q: Will D3 still be an M rated game? A: The other two were; there's no reason to think this one won't too. Q: Will D3 be supported/updated with new content similar to WoW's content patches? A: That hasn't been decided yet. But at the very least we're designing the game to be compatible for expansions. Q: Will the community be able to contribute to D3? A: D3 isn't a mod friendly game because of the randomness. So not really. Q: Will you allow UI mods? A: No. We find that it can change the game experience for the worse - making a simple game too complicated. Q: Where in development are you? A: As hardcore production as we can of content. We love to play it as much as we can. Q: What will the level cap be? A: That hasn't been decided. But why not one hundred it's only one more than ninty-nine. But it will be similar to D2. Q: Bill Roper was important to the franchise - how does his leaving affect the development of D3? A: We have so many talented developers that it really isn't about just one person. On a personal note - I think we both miss Bill. Q: How has the development of D3 changed since its inception? A: The core ideas have stayed. We really just needed to find our visual and gameplay style. Q: Will you enforce team gameplay? A: No, but we encourage it. People that are playing together are going to appreciate this game. Q: Can you play alone if you wish? A: Absolutely. Q: Will there be a system that allows a high level player and a low level player to play together and both receive a benefit. A: Yes, we're looking at ways to make this happen. Q: What is the coolest feature of this game and which are you most proud of? A: We didn't release the coolest feature, but I'm most proud of the character development and classes. The game is really about becoming these characters. They all have their own stories and plot lines. Somewhere on teh intarweb "sheepyd@gmail.com" typed: >> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Steve Humiston" typed: >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Relaaaax children. I can assure you that I'm sooo relaxed I'm almost dead. <g> > From the official FAQ: [schhnip!] > Q: Will D3 be supported/updated with new content similar to WoW's > content patches? > > A: That hasn't been decided yet. Yeah, right! You gotta hook 'em before you can reel 'em in. You don't let the fish see the hook, ergo you don't tell the punter up-front that the original purchase is just the beginning. > But at the very least we're designing > the game to be compatible for expansions. As I speculated. (That's a contradictory answer from Blizz BTW but you can see where it's going....) Still, as long as I don't need a major hardware upgrade I'll probably raid the grocery money when it's released. Does anyone have any idea when it's going to be released? SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) >Does anyone have any idea when it's going to be released? "When it's done", in the Blizzard tradition, undoubtedly ;-) ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com Somewhere on teh intarweb "ald" typed: >> Does anyone have any idea when it's going to be released? >> -- [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > ald > reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com Eeek! Two years? Why the hell are they announcing it now then? BTW, hi ald! SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) >Somewhere on teh intarweb "ald" typed: >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >BTW, hi ald! Howdy, and to whet our appetites, of course ;-) I'd be surprised if it wasn't next year's Christmas game for them, but they've surprised me with longer than expected delays before ;-/ ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com > Somewhere on teh intarweb "sheepyd@gmail.com" typed: > >> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Steve Humiston" typed: [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Does anyone have any idea when it's going to be released? I'd guess sometime in December, 2117, just in time for Christmas. wizofwas >> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Steve Humiston" typed: >>>> Im not sure what to do. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> be bled dry if they want to keep up with the latest... I bet levels are >> capped to start too. [snippage] > Q: Will there be a Secret Cow Level? > > A: No comment. OMG! I hope its not secret... ...new playable character classes ftw!!! (Bovine Destroyer - lol) First off, I haven't reacted, but did manage to download the assorted released videos this weekend. Especially the gameplay trailer (800MB) proved to be a bit hard to download, but after extracting the torrent from the Blizzard downloader en feeding that to a proper torrent client (rtorrent) things progressed much smoother. Good and interesting news. The gameplay video showed a very pretty world, but I suppose it's nothing a proper graphics card can't handle. I.e. 8800GT or up. By the time the game is out, graphics hardware should certainly be up to snuff. It also certainly looks a lot prettier than Mythos; especially the animated world is a lot more detailed; flowing water, moving grass, etc, etc. Some comments on the interview though... >Q: Is there a limit to the number of players in the same game? > >A: Right now it's eight-ish. It's really about the co-operative feel >to the game and the gameplay value that a certain number provides. >We're experimenting with less. But we haven't decided. No changes here, for now in any case. >Q: Will gameplay differ by the number of participants? > >A: We aren't revealing some features that address this yet. But the >wealth system is co-operative. The loot is no longer fought over. What >you see drop is just for you. It's based on your character class etc. Seems they learned from how Mythos does this; so no more loot grabbing/rushing. Good. >Q: Could you tell us a bit more about the monster design? > >A: They're meant to be cooperative. Like the summoners, or others that >can buff their comrades - they're supposed to contribute to each >other’s strengths. But there are so many more monsters to reveal. The gameplay video demonstrated this a bit; it's nice to see killing a monsters (like the bloated type) doesn't end things yet: they spawn a second wave of lesser monsters. I suppose they'll expand the way certain monsters can help other monters; how far beyond the raising/healing we see in D2 they'll take this, remains to be seen... >Q: Will there be auction houses? > >A: We haven't made a decision about auction houses. The ad-hoc trading >in D2 wasn't the best of experiences for the gamer and we want that to >be the best it can be. We're very focused on the experience of the >player. So we'll probably revamp it. Let's hope they deliver here; there's certainly a lot to be improved here. >Q: Will there be something similar to the WoW armory for D3? > >A: We have definite intentions to add functionality on the web. But >right now it's just to early to talk about. What is the 'WoW armory'? >Q: Will the maps still be randomly generated? > >A: Yes, and we're experimenting with randomizing in different ways >such as random weapons, monsters etc. There will be some static levels/ >sequences. Also we're trying something new called Adventures - which >are random events. Sounds like the random missions provided in Mythos. Which is good, since Mythos certainly fixed a few of the nagging problems Diablo II had, so why re-invent the wheel... >Q: Will there be custom gear? > >A: Yes, there'll be all sorts of crazy stuff. Always good. >Q: Are you worried about people leaving WoW for D3? > >A: We don't really look at it that way - they're still playing >Blizzard games and there isn't as much overlap as you'd think. Well, _if_ D3 is _not_ pay-to-play, people moving over will certainly affect them... Of course, that's a big if. >Q: Will it follow a subscription model or will it be free to play out >of the box? > >A: We haven't decided on our financial model. This sure is an important one for me; I don't play WoW mainly because of the subscription model. So if it's pay-to-play, I'll think long and hard, and maybe limit myself to SP play, if I even buy the game. On the other hand, if they make it free, I'm in. Besides, if they still keep the basic structure like Diablo II (8 player games, very little interaction between games), this should be able to run in the idle time of WoW servers... >Q: What options are available to customize our characters before >starting the game? > >A: Just the gender. This is a bit lame; I mean, they have all this detail, and then you can only pick a male or female character. Of course, most of the details will be hidden beneath the armor, but still... Look at the Mythos character creation for what's possible. >Q: Will the Horadric cube make a return? > >A: No comment. I don't think they can do without. Although you can implement crafting without a cube (see Mythos again). >Q: Will mule characters still be needed/allowed? > >A: We're going to make trading between your characters much easier. We >have lots of ideas that we're not ready to talk about for making >inventories better, etc. We'll see how they solve this... I'd be very happy if I don't have to manage accounts full of mules anymore though... >Q: Will there be a system that allows a high level player and a low >level player to play together and both receive a benefit. > >A: Yes, we're looking at ways to make this happen. This'd be neat, and I'm curious as to the way they're going to solve this... Beyond that, I'll be waiting and seeing what other info turns up in the coming months... Regards, Patrick. > It also certainly looks a lot prettier than Mythos; especially the > animated world is a lot more detailed; flowing water, moving grass, etc, > etc. Indeed. My first thoughts upon watching it was "This looks like a sexier Mythos". > Seems they learned from how Mythos does this; so no more loot > grabbing/rushing. Good. Well, I don't know what game invented the idea, but I know Guild Wars was handling loot drops that way a couple years before Mythos did it. > Regards, Patrick. Somewhere on teh intarweb "Shiflet" typed: >> It also certainly looks a lot prettier than Mythos; especially the >> animated world is a lot more detailed; flowing water, moving grass, >> etc, etc. > > Indeed. My first thoughts upon watching it was "This looks like a > sexier Mythos". Whereas I thought it looked distinctly Dungeon Siege-ish. I guess you go with what you know.. <g> SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) I think it was "Shiflet" <rshiflet@charter.net> that wrote something like... >> Seems they learned from how Mythos does this; so no more loot >> grabbing/rushing. Good. > >Well, I don't know what game invented the idea, but I know Guild Wars was >handling loot drops that way a couple years before Mythos did it. And WoW shared the gold that dropped in a party right from the very beginning and let the party leader choice the loot options. Generally group loot was used, where people take turns to loot the mobs that have been killed, and depending on the level it's set at, any actual items that drop are either taken by the person whose turn it is to loot, or it pops up up a window where the group can randomly roll for the item or pass on it. Or there's master loot, where drops of a certain level are given to the party leader to give to whoever they think should have it. Or there's plain round robin which I've never seen get used, where you get all the drops that drop from the mob that dies on your turn order. Or there's free for all where the person that loots the mob, gets the drops. It sounds like D3 may make it so that when looting, it's like WoW's group loot. Who ever's turn it's up to will get the items that are specifically tailored for their class. Ashen Shugar SignatureThe lions sing and the hills take flight. The moon by day, and the sun by night. Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool. Let the Lord of Chaos rule! >> It also certainly looks a lot prettier than Mythos; especially the >> animated world is a lot more detailed; flowing water, moving grass, etc, >> etc. > >Indeed. My first thoughts upon watching it was "This looks like a sexier >Mythos". Let's see if/when the Mythos folks up the ante again. Besides their new 'WoW-lookalike' mode, they've changed very little to the graphics, while I've been playing in any case... >> Seems they learned from how Mythos does this; so no more loot >> grabbing/rushing. Good. > >Well, I don't know what game invented the idea, but I know Guild Wars was >handling loot drops that way a couple years before Mythos did it. My apologies, I didn't mean to to imply Mythos invented this way of handling drops, but it was, for me in any case, the first game where I encountered this method... Regards, Patrick. I think it was Patrick Vervoorn <patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> that wrote something like... >>Q: Are you worried about people leaving WoW for D3? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Well, _if_ D3 is _not_ pay-to-play, people moving over will certainly >affect them... Of course, that's a big if. Only if they stop playing WoW at the same time. D3 may be the game they play while the WoW servers are undergoing maintenance, or when they can't find groups for doing stuff in WoW. They also may be expecting to pick up a different market with D3. Sort of like if you put out a first person shooter, you don't really expect it to be competing with the real time strategy game you already have out. >>Q: Will it follow a subscription model or will it be free to play out >>of the box? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the subscription model. So if it's pay-to-play, I'll think long and hard, >and maybe limit myself to SP play, if I even buy the game. Maybe I missed the spot where they said it, but what I've read so far is that the game will be designed to be solo'able, not that it'll be single player. Just like D2 on the realms, you can play by yourself, but you still have to connect to battle.net, and if they charge to connect to battle.net with D3, then whether you're playing by yourself or in a group, you'd still have to pay. But they may stick with the D2 model and have a single player option. If I was doing it, I'd certainly be inclined to go that way. Living in Australia anyway, you don't really assume that everyone and their dog is going to have broadband to go with their computer, so putting in a single player component to pick up that part of the market seems like a good idea. >On the other hand, if they make it free, I'm in. Besides, if they still >keep the basic structure like Diablo II (8 player games, very little >interaction between games), this should be able to run in the idle time of >WoW servers... I'm not sure that the WoW servers are ever all that idle. ; ) People from the USA are regularly playing till around 2 to 3 in the morning and then others get up around 6 or 7 to start playing. And of course there are the Australians and New Zealanders to fill in the time between those two times. It's a bit quieter then admittedly. Ashen Shugar SignatureThe lions sing and the hills take flight. The moon by day, and the sun by night. Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool. Let the Lord of Chaos rule! >I think it was Patrick Vervoorn ><patrick.vervoorn@NOSPAM.perihelion.demon.nl> that wrote something [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >they play while the WoW servers are undergoing maintenance, or when >they can't find groups for doing stuff in WoW. Errr? Play both WoW and D3 parallel to each-other? You are surely kidding? While, besides the pay-to-play, the humongous amounts of time you have to pour into WoW is another blockade for me to play it, Diablo 2 is also rather limited in what you can achieve when only playing a few hours a week. To get anywhere in Diablo II, you need to pour in quite a lot of time. And we've all seen how well playing both goes together in this newsgroup. ;) >They also may be expecting to pick up a different market with D3. >Sort of like if you put out a first person shooter, you don't really >expect it to be competing with the real time strategy game you already >have out. While I don't know WoW, so I cannot comment on it's similarities to Diablo II, the fact that a lot of Diablo II players moved over to WoW, or even the other way back, suggests there is quite a bit of overlap. I'm curious what kind of drop in WoW-playage Blizzard will see when they release Diablo 3. Of course, they'll never make that public. ;) >>>Q: Will it follow a subscription model or will it be free to play out >>>of the box? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >in a single player component to pick up that part of the market seems >like a good idea. I hadn't looked at it from your standpoint above; I more or less automatically assumed they'd include some kind of SP mode in Diablo 3, since that's also in Diablo 1 and 2. If they even leave that out, I have _very_ little incentive to buy it at all, all of which of course depends on their online playing model. >>On the other hand, if they make it free, I'm in. Besides, if they still >>keep the basic structure like Diablo II (8 player games, very little [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >course there are the Australians and New Zealanders to fill in the >time between those two times. It's a bit quieter then admittedly. Well, I didn't really mean this literally, but just to indicate that I don't think a (properly designed I must add!) Diablo 2 or 3 server shouldn't need honking big servers to run on. Regards, Patrick. > >Maybe I missed the spot where they said it, but what I've read so far > >is that the game will be designed to be solo'able, not that it'll be [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > _very_ little incentive to buy it at all, all of which of course depends > on their online playing model. From the FAQ at http://eu.blizzard.com/diablo3/faq/#1_9 :- "Will there be a single-player component in addition to multiplayer? Yes. In addition to battling the hordes of the Burning Hells cooperatively with friends over Battle.net, players will be able to adventure through the world of Diablo III solo. More details on both the single-player and multiplayer experience will be revealed at a later date." I took this to mean there will be an SP mode as with Diablo I & II. I daresay you could read it as just being able to play solo on Battle.net though. I hope not. I only play SP, so if there's no SP mode on DIII I shall have to reluctantly pass on it. :-( SignatureCarol "This might as well say "bing tiddle tiddle bong". It's complete gibberish," - Rodney McKay, Stargate: Atlantis I think it was carol@wrhpv.com (Carol Hague) that wrote something like... >> >Maybe I missed the spot where they said it, but what I've read so far >> >is that the game will be designed to be solo'able, not that it'll be [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >I only play SP, so if there's no SP mode on DIII I shall have to >reluctantly pass on it. :-( Ahh, I didn't re-check what I'd read and was just remembering the "In addition to battling the hordes of the Burning Hells cooperatively with friends over Battle.net, players will be able to adventure through the world of Diablo III solo". But yeah, in context that sounds like off-line play. Probably just my experience with WoW where some of the content can only be completed in groups, so saying that the content is solo'able doesn't mean it can be done off-line. Ashen Shugar SignatureThe lions sing and the hills take flight. The moon by day, and the sun by night. Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool. Let the Lord of Chaos rule! > I think it was carol@wrhpv.com (Carol Hague) that wrote something > like... > >From the FAQ at http://eu.blizzard.com/diablo3/faq/#1_9 :- > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > some of the content can only be completed in groups, so saying that > the content is solo'able doesn't mean it can be done off-line. I think your interpretation is fair enough, because they don't explicitly mention playing offline at any point. WE shall just have to wait and see, I suppose :-) SignatureCarol "This might as well say "bing tiddle tiddle bong". It's complete gibberish," - Rodney McKay, Stargate: Atlantis >What is the 'WoW armory'? >Regards, Patrick. A place where you can look up your or another players' gear, stats, talents, skills, etc. For instance, my Main (first level 70, currently the max level, and *only* 60 back when that was the max) can be found at http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Llane&n=Sisald, though most of the information there will probably be pretty useless unless you play the game ;-) ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com >>What is the 'WoW armory'? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >though most of the information there will probably be pretty useless >unless you play the game ;-) Well, it's all very similar to Diablo 2 eh? In your case: weapons, armor, rings, 'trinkets' (amulets?), etc. ;) Anyway, something like this would be nice indeed, if only to save the amount of info you have to type-over when providing your equipment/stats when asking questions here (or elsewhere). Of course, what they really should address are duping (so that you get a viable and realistic economy running), and, while this doesn't really affect me since I play SC, the 'involuntary' PvP/PK stuff. Regards, Patrick. >>>What is the 'WoW armory'? >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Well, it's all very similar to Diablo 2 eh? In your case: weapons, armor, >rings, 'trinkets' (amulets?), etc. ;) Pretty much, although the two trinkets are in addition to the one amulet, not instead of. >Anyway, something like this would be nice indeed, if only to save the >amount of info you have to type-over when providing your equipment/stats >when asking questions here (or elsewhere). Ayup, it's very handy for that, although some people see a drawback there. They'll log out in their "town outfit" (no, I and most people don't have one, I'm a packrat, where would I put it? ;-) ) so that opponents can't check to see what they're wearing. From what I've heard this is mostly the better Arena players (think consensual PvP for points that can get you better gear), but I don't see the point in it since your opponents can inspect you in-game. >Of course, what they really should address are duping (so that you get a >viable and realistic economy running), and, while this doesn't really >affect me since I play SC, the 'involuntary' PvP/PK stuff. > >Regards, Patrick. Agreed with the duping, which simply doesn't exist in WoW, but even in WoW there are ways to get "flagged" without meaning to, until you know all the rules (and sometimes even then, there was a snake trap bug for a short while where a Hunter could basically flag you without your doing anything, but they cleared that up pretty quickly). Unfortunately, Blizzard *likes* the PvP play, so I expect that it will always be in their games, and people will always try to find a way to take advantage of it ;-/ ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com > On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:12:59 +0200, Patrick Vervoorn > >Of course, what they really should address are duping (so that you get a > >viable and realistic economy running), and, while this doesn't really > >affect me since I play SC, the 'involuntary' PvP/PK stuff. > > Agreed with the duping, which simply doesn't exist in WoW Oh really? :D http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7199/dupe8xd.gif This screenshot was taken a good while ago though. My fleeting memory says it predates the "Warden" anti-hack system. There was no other duping spree that I know of... >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:12:59 +0200, Patrick Vervoorn >> >Of course, what they really should address are duping (so that you get a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >says it predates the "Warden" anti-hack system. There was no other >duping spree that I know of... Interesting screen shot, shame that it's either faked or at the very least edited (the toon at the AH shows as a ghost, ghosts don't have life or mana bars and can't view the AH). Also, while I'm not saying this *wasn't* a case of duping, it's entirely possible to have 8 BoE Epics at one time, without duping, either by running the boss that drops them multiple times, or by trying to corner the market at the AH (I've done that a couple times with some (*much*) lower priced items). Even if it is a screen shot of someone successfully duping, I'm pretty sure the Warden was operational when I started playing, roughly nine months after the European Open Beta ended, so I guess I should modify my statement to read "... which I've never seen to exist in WoW" ;-) ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com >> Im not sure what to do. >> I dont know if I like the news or not. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >to play online. The success of WOW must have them counting the possible >cha-ching of this franchise. There's room on your Visa, right? I'm *quite* sure I read in the first releases this morning that it will be played on BattleNet, which means no Pay2Play. ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com Somewhere on teh intarweb "Thunnus Albacarus" typed: >> More info! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Well bugger me... Never thought i'd see the day. Hehee! I was going to say exactly the same thing. SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) > Somewhere on teh intarweb "Thunnus Albacarus" typed: > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Hehee! I was going to say exactly the same thing. The best news, for me, is that there *will* be a single player mode. I was fearful that it would be online-only. SignatureCarol "This might as well say "bing tiddle tiddle bong". It's complete gibberish," - Rodney McKay, Stargate: Atlantis carol@wrhpv.com (Carol Hague) wrote in news:1ij96eq.76wkb0l423m2N% carol@wrhpv.com: >> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Thunnus Albacarus" typed: >> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I was fearful that it would be online-only. I'm with you on that. Somewhere on teh intarweb "Thunnus Albacarus" typed: > carol@wrhpv.com (Carol Hague) wrote in news:1ij96eq.76wkb0l423m2N% > carol@wrhpv.com: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > I'm with you on that. Ditto. However, especially after seeing there are only two classes on release, the cynic in me says expect to have to buy new expansions every few months if you want to play the *full* game. SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) > Somewhere on teh intarweb "Thunnus Albacarus" typed: >> carol@wrhpv.com (Carol Hague) wrote in news:1ij96eq.76wkb0l423m2N% [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > the cynic in me says expect to have to buy new expansions every few months > if you want to play the *full* game. FAQ states there will be 5 classes in D3. Im guessing they just arent finished yet (like much of the game world). Engine looks almost (or completely) finished so its probably just needing alot of art work, scripts, etc added... give it 6month to a year :¬) >Engine looks almost (or >completely) finished so its probably just needing alot of art work, scripts, >etc added... give it 6month to a year :¬) Optimist! ;-) ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com Somewhere on teh intarweb "ald" typed: >> Engine looks almost (or >> completely) finished so its probably just needing alot of art work, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > ald > reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com LOL, I've just replied to your other post saying two years. Hehee! SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) > Somewhere on teh intarweb "ald" typed: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > LOL, I've just replied to your other post saying two years. Hehee! Following a link from another post I read that the release date is 09/30/2009. http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3138257 They seem set on keeping the status quo as far as pricing; in other words, you buy the game, you can play SP or play on BattleNet. No subscriptions. I'm in. :-) Signature"Because all you of Earth are idiots!" ¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-> freemont© <-·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ Somewhere on teh intarweb "freemont" typed: >> Somewhere on teh intarweb "ald" typed: >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > I'm in. :-) If that's the case then I'm in too. I mean, I have at least 14 months to save up the money. <g> Actually, maybe not "<g>". I'll probably need to spend another NZ$300 or so on a graphics card. Somehow, for an '09 release game, I don't think my 7800GT will cut it. SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) Somewhere on teh intarweb "~misfit~" typed: > Somewhere on teh intarweb "freemont" typed: >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > or so on a graphics card. Somehow, for an '09 release game, I don't > think my 7800GT will cut it. Hmm, maybe it will: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/30/blizzard-snubs-nvidia-diablo Extract: "First off: the game will run on XP as well as Vista, with DirectX 10 being recommended but not required. [.....] What is won't be, it seems, is a guaranteed graphics card seller, unlike many of the other triple-A titles released recently." Innerestin'. My "old" DX 9 card might just do it yet. SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) > > However, especially after seeing there are only two classes on release, > > the cynic in me says expect to have to buy new expansions every few months [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > completely) finished so its probably just needing alot of art work, scripts, > etc added... Having finally got the gameplay video to work, I have to say it looks very impressive. Not sure about those red blobs replacing potions, but it wasn't clear whether that's the *only* way to regain health or not. I wonder what the other three character classes will be? Since any of them can be either male or female, I'm assuming not Amazons or Rogues, both of which have to be female for story reasons. >give it 6month to a year :¬) Optimist :-) SignatureCarol "This might as well say "bing tiddle tiddle bong". It's complete gibberish," - Rodney McKay, Stargate: Atlantis > Having finally got the gameplay video to work, I have to say it looks > very impressive. Not sure about those red blobs replacing potions, but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Since any of them can be either male or female, I'm assuming not Amazons > or Rogues, both of which have to be female for story reasons. Probably some sort of sorceror, at least. And likely a class that uses bows, too: I saw a bow drop during the gameplay video. <g> Signature* 404 Error: Weapons of Mass Destruction not found. Please reinstall regime and reboot. EvilBill's Dominion - Diablo stories, Quake videos and more! http://www.devlinwright.co.uk Now with Forums: http://www.devlinwright.co.uk/forum/ > > Having finally got the gameplay video to work, I have to say it looks > > very impressive. Not sure about those red blobs replacing potions, but [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Probably some sort of sorceror, at least. Sounds likely - I'm just trying to think of something they haven't already done, but I daresay they just have to change the name and tweak a few details :-) The Witchdoctor strikes me as a combination of some of the traits of the Druid and Necromancer from DII, at least to some extent - looks like fun to play though :-) >And likely a class that uses > bows, too: I saw a bow drop during the gameplay video. <g> I hope so - I do like my bows and arrows :-) Something else I noticed in the video was some sort of "pants" so it looks as if there'll be leg armour. SignatureCarol "This might as well say "bing tiddle tiddle bong". It's complete gibberish," - Rodney McKay, Stargate: Atlantis > More info! > > http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/ > > Enjoy this wonderful day people! As I watched the trailer and part of the gameplay video I kept waiting for a punchline, a gotcha, or some sort of April Fools joke but it looks real enough. I'm pleased to see Blizz weren't afraid of borrowing some elements from Titan Quest. I'm veeeeery pleased they are not making a WOW clone. I've always liked the isometric view of the Diablos and TQ. >> More info! >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > elements from Titan Quest. I'm veeeeery pleased they are not making a WOW > clone. I've always liked the isometric view of the Diablos and TQ. When the barb equiped the fire hammer and showed us a few moves the curtain started reacting to the wind being generated by the hammers... I was OMFG!!! THATS SWEET!!!! ...but it wasnt reacting - its just animated... Im asking too much for non-damage to be recognised in the background, I think :¬/ Also, some comedy in the movie/game did appear... cain says "stay a while and..." then gets cut off and knows nobody listens to it (from Diablo2, when you ID items) Somewhere on teh intarweb "Trammel" typed: >>> More info! >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > while and..." then gets cut off and knows nobody listens to it (from > Diablo2, when you ID items) The gameplay video is impressive. I hope that it isn't too complicated to control the toons (I can't play WoW, my fingers cramp up). Also, one wonders whether hardware will be up to the task..... I guess I'll find out soon enough. SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) > Somewhere on teh intarweb "Trammel" typed: >>>> More info! [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > I guess I'll find out soon enough. Yep, start saving for new hardware!! Somewhere on teh intarweb "jcrud" typed: >> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Trammel" typed: >>>>> More info! [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Yep, start saving for new hardware!! I'm pretty sure my CPU will be up to the job (Intel Core 2 Duo running at 3.3GHz) but I'm not so sure about my graphics card. It's getting old now as far as cutting-edge gaming goes; nVidia 7800GT, DX 9. I think an equal expense is going to be regular expansion packs. The days of the whole damn game (at least for SP) being released at once are gone I'm afraid. Now it's buy it bit-by-bit. This sales model has been getting more and more prevalent and Blizz are good at pushing the envelope (read: bleeding the punters). Still, who would have thought? <g> SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) > I'm pretty sure my CPU will be up to the job (Intel Core 2 Duo running at > 3.3GHz) but I'm not so sure about my graphics card. It's getting old now as > far as cutting-edge gaming goes; nVidia 7800GT, DX 9. My wife's aging 1.7Ghz laptop w/ATI x300 won't be up to it, that's for certain! LOL Signature* 404 Error: Weapons of Mass Destruction not found. Please reinstall regime and reboot. EvilBill's Dominion - Diablo stories, Quake videos and more! http://www.devlinwright.co.uk Now with Forums: http://www.devlinwright.co.uk/forum/ >> I'm pretty sure my CPU will be up to the job (Intel Core 2 Duo running at >> 3.3GHz) but I'm not so sure about my graphics card. It's getting old now >> as far as cutting-edge gaming goes; nVidia 7800GT, DX 9. > > My wife's aging 1.7Ghz laptop w/ATI x300 won't be up to it, that's for > certain! LOL If its not Pay-2-play... and I need to upgrade my machine to play the so-be-it... my machine will be upgraded! (Currently a P4 2.533ghz, 1gb RAM, 120gb HDD, GeForce FX 5200) >> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Trammel" typed: >>>>> More info! [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> I guess I'll find out soon enough. > Yep, start saving for new hardware!! I think i'll just start saving for a new system. ;-) SignatureJake Mysterio - The Mysterious One of Nothingness. > More info! > > http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/ > > Enjoy this wonderful day people! Awww crap! This means the end of D2. And I love this game. Somewhere on teh intarweb "Irondell" typed: >> More info! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Awww crap! This means the end of D2. And I love this game. I don't see that it means the end of D2. I mean, isn't D1 still playable on battlenet? SignatureShaun. DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-) >Somewhere on teh intarweb "Irondell" typed: >>> More info! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I don't see that it means the end of D2. I mean, isn't D1 still playable on >battlenet? It is, as a matter of fact one of our Justus Guild members on Llane (yeah, I'm talking about that other game here) never played D2, but met one of our founding members (if he isn't, he should be, I got him hooked before the guild was formed) on BattleNet playing D1. ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com > More info! > > http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/ > > Enjoy this wonderful day people! Oh. My. Tyrael. This better not be an elaborate hoax ;) Signature* 404 Error: Weapons of Mass Destruction not found. Please reinstall regime and reboot. EvilBill's Dominion - Diablo stories, Quake videos and more! http://www.devlinwright.co.uk Now with Forums: http://www.devlinwright.co.uk/forum/ > More info! > > http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/ > > Enjoy this wonderful day people! THIS NEWS IS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .... i love this game :D >> More info! >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > .... i love this game :D Hells yeah :D I'm watching the gameplay vids now. Beautiful!! Signature* 404 Error: Weapons of Mass Destruction not found. Please reinstall regime and reboot. EvilBill's Dominion - Diablo stories, Quake videos and more! http://www.devlinwright.co.uk Now with Forums: http://www.devlinwright.co.uk/forum/ > More info! > > http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/ > > Enjoy this wonderful day people! Praise the lord!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! It's beautiful! I am weeping sweet tears of joy! Kinlaw >> More info! >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Kinlaw I didnt know what to do when I saw the site/movie... ...I thought about it long and hard (for hours)... ...then I had an orgasm and cried :¬/ (only joking... but not far off) >More info! > >http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/ > >Enjoy this wonderful day people! Praise Be to the Light!! -- Roy L > More info! > > http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/ > > Enjoy this wonderful day people! All I can say is, Wow!! The gameplay looks awesome. I want to build a D3 Barb so bad right now. The scenes look great too. Looks like an updated D2 which is just what I wanted. Now for the bad part...online will cost $$$$$. I guess D3 single player will have to do. Guessing that D2 online will be phased out? Perhaps they can port to Xbox360?? Imagine on a PSP. That would be hot. >> More info! >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > will be phased out? Perhaps they can port to Xbox360?? Imagine on a PSP. > That would be hot. They have said D2 (and probably still D1) will stay on bNet :?) > Looks like an > updated D2 which is just what I wanted. i expected same thing :) and YES, i will pay for online game, if there will be normal fee :) > More info! > > http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/ > > Enjoy this wonderful day people! Great, and for the Mac fans Blizzard say that they will be releasing the OS X version at the same time. Roll on! Peter SignatureHe spoke with a certain what-is-it in his voice, and I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled. P.G. Wodehouse 1881 -1975 > More info! > > http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/ > > Enjoy this wonderful day people! *picks self off of floor* *checks date* damn, its monday, last thing i knew, it was saturday and i was looking at.. something.. something beautiful... I CANT WAIT!!!!! -- Saber > *picks self off of floor* > *checks date* [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Saber Saber, I'm pretty sure Azrael_Warraven is stoked to play as well. Anybody see U lately? -gk- >> *picks self off of floor* >> *checks date* [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > -gk- Wow Tox, great to hear from you. We have been talking a bit about U, and his 4th of July birthday thread. Hope he and a lot of other oldtimers show up. I'm hoping we hear from Regnitto and Cymtyr, a couple guys I killed a LOT of monsters with, lol. In fact I heard Regnitto popped in a few months ago. Kinlaw > >> *picks self off of floor* > >> *checks date* [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Meep meep! I'm having trouble finding something to read the newsgroup with besides Google, so I may not be able to respond to every thread. I'm back though, and I'm ready for some fresh agd2 action! Currently I'm playing WoW and some D2 on USEast. How have you been? Well, I hope. Things are going pretty good for me, I'm 28 now, a lot closer to 30 than I was when I used to frequent this newsgroup... hehe funny how life goes by at such an alarming pace. I'm really looking forward to Diablo 3, and I'm happy Ald mentioned you guys to me in-game this morning, so now I'm back and I'll try to be a constructive part of the community ;) Let me know how you're doing! -Cym Meep meep! I'm having trouble finding something to read the newsgroup with besides Google, so I may not be able to respond to every thread. I'm back though, and I'm ready for some fresh agd2 action! Currently I'm playing WoW and some D2 on USEast. How have you been? Well, I hope. Things are going pretty good for me, I'm 28 now, a lot closer to 30 than I was when I used to frequent this newsgroup... hehe funny how life goes by at such an alarming pace. I'm really looking forward to Diablo 3, and I'm happy Ald mentioned you guys to me in-game this morning, so now I'm back and I'll try to be a constructive part of the community ;) Let me know how you're doing! -Cym Howdy old friend. It is fine indeed to hear from you! I am glad to hear you are well. I am as well as can be expected for a .. lets just say fortiesh old man, heh. Thanks loads to Ald for mentioning us. By the way, a couple days ago I went over to the Warcraft group to see if you hung out there, but I didn't see any posts by you. Glad to see you still have the old nym, it's a nice blast from the past. Hope to hear more from you in the future. 28, huh? Youngster. Take care Kinlaw Hehe yeah I just loaded up Google today and figured I'd post a message letting you know I'm still around. Unfortunately Time Warner discontinued newsgroup service so it looks like I'll be checking in via google :{ Anyway if you play WoW at all I play on Llane. And yes I kept the name :D As I said I'm playing D2 on USEast since I moved back to Ohio, so I'm online at various points but from what I remember most of us used to play on West together. I suppose I might be persuaded to start an account on West ;) >Howdy old friend. It is fine indeed to hear from you! > >I am glad to hear you are well. I am as well as can be expected for a .. >lets just say fortiesh old man, heh. > >Thanks loads to Ald for mentioning us. Any time ;-) >By the way, a couple days ago I went over to the Warcraft group to see if >you hung out there, but I didn't see any posts by you. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Kinlaw While we're not on the subject, here, where Cym hopefully sees it, anyone know of a good, free news server? We got Cym set up with Agent, or Outlook Express, but as he mentions down-thread, he doesn't have a news server, and I *hate* to see friends suffer through Google groups. Fortiesh, huh? Whippersnapper ;-) ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com > While we're not on the subject, here, where Cym hopefully sees it, anyone > know of a good, free news server? We got Cym set up with Agent, or Outlook > Express, but as he mentions down-thread, he doesn't have a news server, > and I *hate* to see friends suffer through Google groups. http://motzarella.org/ << good :-) Signature"Because all you of Earth are idiots!" ¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-> freemont© <-·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ > http://motzarella.org/<< good :-) > > -- > "Because all you of Earth are idiots!" > ¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-> freemont© <-·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ You are kind, indeed! I'll check it out and get it set up. Thanks a bunch! >> While we're not on the subject, here, where Cym hopefully sees it, anyone >> know of a good, free news server? We got Cym set up with Agent, or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://motzarella.org/ << good :-) Nope, I'm paying for Giganews. >>> While we're not on the subject, here, where Cym hopefully sees it, anyone >>> know of a good, free news server? We got Cym set up with Agent, or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Nope, I'm paying for Giganews. Yup, I'm now paying for xprivate, after using their free service for years, then dropping them when they started charging (15 euros a year, or about 17 dollars, very affordable). Fortunately, I still had their emails when my ISP basically decided to drop all of the interesting parts of Usenet ;-/ ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com >>> http://motzarella.org/ << good :-) >> >>Nope, I'm paying for Giganews. > > Yup, I'm now paying for xprivate I have to ask: Why do y'all pay for these when there are free alternatives like motzarella? Binaries? Signature"Because all you of Earth are idiots!" ¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-> freemont© <-·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ >>>> http://motzarella.org/ << good :-) >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I have to ask: Why do y'all pay for these when there are free alternatives >like motzarella? Binaries? For me, basically because I didn't know about motzarella until the post here (it's now bookmarked, I might check it out when my year of xprivate is up). At one point, probably when xprivate went to a pay system, I'd googled for free news servers, but didn't find any that were satisfactory. I went back to using my ISP's server, but as I mentioned, they just recently basically dropped Usenet. Although I'd had all of a week's warning, I couldn't get an answer from them (or their new provider) about whether my groups would be affected or not, so when I found myself without a news server, I took the easy way out and signed up with xprivate, since I had their emails. I also have to mention that if I'd been more financially able at the time they went to a pay system, I probably would have stuck with xprivate. They were getting a *lot* of posts that my ISP had been missing, and doing a decent job of filtering out the spam. Obviously, I didn't have time this time to do the head-to-head comparison that I did when I first switched to them, but I've seen nothing so far to make me think the service has lessened. Now if I could only remember the group (*long* ago unsubscribed to) that they occasionally post to ... ;-) ald reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com > >>>> http://motzarella.org/ << good :-) > >>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > ald > reply via email to ald_007_1999 at yahoo dot com I'm using News.Individual.NET for a very reasonable 10 euros per year and find their service to be very decent. No binary groups though. Regards, Jamie Kahn Genet SignatureIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. > I went back to using my ISP's server, but as I mentioned, they just > recently basically dropped Usenet. Although I'd had all of a week's > warning, I couldn't get an answer from them (or their new provider) > about whether my groups would be affected or not, so when I found myself > without a news server, I took the easy way out and signed up with > xprivate, since I had their emails. I have an uncle who uses AT&T (Bellsouth), and yesterday he found this on their site when he couldn't connect to a group: <excerpt> We'll continue to provide access to newsgroups as part of our broadband offering, but we'll no longer include alt.bin* nor alt.bain* hierarchies because of the possibility of child pornography in those particular groups and the difficulty in ensuring that no child porn reappears in them. </excerpt> My uncle argues, not unreasonably, that "why not just shut down the news server? Say, there is a lot of unlawful content on the web! They should block their customers from accessing the web! Oh!! What if someone were to e-mail unlawful content? Better shut that down, too!" Makes sense, no? I responded that IMO ISPs don't give a rat's piss about customers any more; they've gotten too big. All it will take for me is one more little nudge and I'm switching to our "local" cable provider. That nudge could be an announcement that Windstream is falling in line and blocking content. Just waiting. Signature"Because all you of Earth are idiots!" ¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-> freemont© <-·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯ > I have to ask: Why do y'all pay for these when there are free alternatives > like motzarella? Binaries? Target. > Fortiesh, huh? Whippersnapper ;-) LOL, I didn't see that the first time I read your post! I don't know how long you have been hanging around agd2, but 5 or 6 years ago we had a "how old is everyone" thread. As it turned out we are a well seasoned crew. Some might consider that odd for a computer game, but I don't think so. I don't believe there is another game community quite like the agd2 folks. A special game, a special bunch of people. <end of sappiness> Kinlaw >> Fortiesh, huh? Whippersnapper ;-) > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > <end of sappiness> Some more "special" than others... *drool* > Som |
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