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An Amazon using a thrown weapon with a shield, same set up on switch if that is the way to go. Years back I had one that was very good till Hell and then everything went south. If possible some clarification on strength and dexterity skill point distribution, with advice on the correct placing of points in the skill trees. I'm looking for a place to start and have not decided to go single player or on bnet. No hard core, have read toooooooo many tales of woe!!!! Thanks, Jerry > An Amazon using a thrown weapon with a shield, same set up on switch if > that is the way to go. Years back I had one that was very good till Hell > and then everything went south. If possible some clarification on strength > and dexterity skill point distribution, Same strength and dex for basically EVERY build in existence, other than eshield sorcs. In other words, enough strength for gear, enough dex for gear OR max block, depending on personal preference. If you go max block, you'll want really want Stormshield. My javazon doesn't have max block, but the choices is yours to make. > with advice on the correct placing of points in the skill trees. Depends on if you wanna go pure lightning, or hybrid. Mine is a lightning build, has 1 in each passive/magic skill(this gets them to lvl 14 or so with my gear, some people recommend getting Valk to 17 with gear), max Charged Strike, Lightning Fury, Lightning Strike, and Power Strike, rest in Lightning Bolt. Charged Strike is your main boss/single target killer, Lightning Fury is your main mob killer, Lightning Strike is your main small group killer. You'll have 1 point in Jab as a pre-req, use it vs lightning immunes, it works fine for that purpose(esp if you have a little crushing blow on your gear somewhere). >> An Amazon using a thrown weapon with a shield, same set up on switch if >> that is the way to go. Years back I had one that was very good till Hell [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >Thanks for the info and thanks for not using abbreviations. This will get >me started, I'm going to go with single player. Jerry >>> An Amazon using a thrown weapon with a shield, same set up on switch if >>> that is the way to go. Years back I had one that was very good till Hell [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>Thanks for the info and thanks for not using abbreviations. This will get >>me started, I'm going to go with single player. If you are going to build her in SP, I _seeeriously_ advise you to make her a hybrid, or you are going to find lightning immunes just too big a PITA in Hell. You won't have good gear, and while you will easily kill everything that isn't LI with just CS and LF maxed, LIs will stop you cold. A decent Freezing Arrow on switch lets you stop the LIs cold, instead. If you find a Ko (not too hard to do), Melody makes a decent bow, or if you are a little bit luckier, a Lem will let you make Passion, which is excellent. There are also half a dozen decent-to-excellent unique bows out there. I've found hybrid zons quite viable soloing in Hell (HC), while pure lightning builds can't do it without either some teammates or substantial twinks. -- Roy L >>>> An Amazon using a thrown weapon with a shield, same set up on switch if >>>> that is the way to go. Years back I had one that was very good till [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > -- Roy L Can I still saved this one? I just entered Act III, Level 24, Strength-57, dex-51, vit-61(life 280), power strike=18-129, throw=22-65 with 11 pts to use. Skill trees: Bow and arrow=0, Passive and magic= 1 point in all except, critical strike, penetrate, pierce, and valk, Javelin and Spear, each in Jab, poison jav, lightning bolt, plague javelin, charge strike, 4 pts in power strike. with 10 points to use. My merc is a fire arrow=level, damage 18-42, defense 326 she has been steady, want to keep her. Using a alternative attack will work for me, with other characters I've had trouble with lighting immunes, in hell it seems everyone is lightning immune. Thanks for the advice, I'm having fun so far. Jerry > Using a alternative attack will work for me, with other characters I've > had trouble with lighting immunes, in hell it seems everyone is lightning > immune. Thanks for the advice, I'm having fun so far. If you must have an alternate attack, I'd use jab. > Jerry >> Using a alternative attack will work for me, with other characters I've >> had trouble with lighting immunes, in hell it seems everyone is lightning >> immune. Thanks for the advice, I'm having fun so far. > > If you must have an alternate attack, I'd use jab. Likewise. I have a fondness for tanking Javazons - max LF and Jab, low Str, high Dex, high Vit. I had one in 1.09 that could pretty much take anything except for PI MSLEBs. ;)  Signature* 404 Error: Weapons of Mass Destruction not found. Please reinstall regime and reboot. EvilBill's Dominion - Diablo stories, Quake videos and more! http://www.devlinwright.co.uk Now with Forums: http://www.devlinwright.co.uk/forum/ >> Using a alternative attack will work for me, with other characters I've >> had trouble with lighting immunes, in hell it seems everyone is lightning >> immune. Thanks for the advice, I'm having fun so far. > >If you must have an alternate attack, I'd use jab. In SP, how is he going to get (and equip) a powerful enough weapon to make Jab kill LEs in a reasonable time in Hell? I don't see it happening without twinks. -- Roy L >> If you must have an alternate attack, I'd use jab. > > In SP, how is he going to get (and equip) a powerful enough weapon to > make Jab kill LEs in a reasonable time in Hell? I don't see it > happening without twinks. My 1.09 Javazon found a Titan's in SP. *nods* Signature* 404 Error: Weapons of Mass Destruction not found. Please reinstall regime and reboot. EvilBill's Dominion - Diablo stories, Quake videos and more! http://www.devlinwright.co.uk Now with Forums: http://www.devlinwright.co.uk/forum/ > In SP, how is he going to get (and equip) a powerful enough weapon to > make Jab kill LEs in a reasonable time in Hell? I don't see it > happening without twinks. Goblin Toe, Gore Riders, crafted gloves with CB? And you can EASILY get cruel javs just by shopping Anya, so really, it's not that hard. > -- Roy L >>>>> An Amazon using a thrown weapon with a shield, same set up on switch if >>>>> that is the way to go. Years back I had one that was very good till [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >Skill trees: Bow and arrow=0, Passive and magic= 1 point in all except, >critical strike, penetrate, pierce, and valk, Minimum one point in all passives, enough in Valk to cast her at 17. >Javelin and Spear, each in >Jab, poison jav, lightning bolt, plague javelin, charge strike, 4 pts in >power strike. with 10 points to use. You can still go hybrid, just stop putting points in Power Strike and switch to Charged Strike. But if you want to go with Jab instead of Freezing Arrow as your alternate attack, you can just ignore the bow tree. Personally, I don't like melee chars and IMO Jab will not be very useful without a kickass weapon, which you are not likely to find or make in SP. >My merc is a fire arrow=level, damage 18-42, defense 326 she has been >steady, want to keep her. >Using a alternative attack will work for me, with other characters I've had >trouble with lighting immunes, in hell it seems everyone is lightning >immune. Thanks for the advice, I'm having fun so far. Yeah, the problem with using Jab for LIs is that they are often LI because they are LE, and meleeing with them is nasty. -- Roy L > If you are going to build her in SP, I _seeeriously_ advise you to > make her a hybrid, or you are going to find lightning immunes just too [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > quite viable soloing in Hell (HC), while pure lightning builds can't > do it without either some teammates or substantial twinks. I agree with Roy. In Hell you will run into dual immune monsters. So in order to progress expediously you will need three credible attacks. Your Javazon will be primarily lightning based, and you can depend on your mercenary to deal physical damage. So you will personally need a third damage type. Cold, in the form of Freezing Arrow is a good alternative. Playing SP you cannot depend on other players, or specialized gear, so you need to plan your build to deal with dual immunes. You won't need to deal with dual immunes with any regularity till Hell. so you can pump up your primary attack till late NM. But come Hell, you will need a third damage type, so plan ahead. Also, a wand with Lower Resist charges on weapon switch is VERY nice. It will break the immunity of some monsters, and speed killing of others a great deal. And they are easily shopable. Further, it's cheaper to buy a new wand than to recharge an existing wand, so check the vendors often and buy them whenever you see one. Regards- Mark Bongo Fury > In Hell you will run into dual immune monsters. Dual light/physical immunes are verrrrry rare, and you can pretty much always just run. 3 attack types is just a waste. >> In Hell you will run into dual immune monsters. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >will help there. Thanks for the clarification about up coming hell >monsters. It is getting tougher, Diablo looms large. Jerry >. Finished the >>first two quests in Act IV normal, and have trouble hitting with my javs. Won't matter so much later on, your 2 main attacks(Charged Strike and Lightning Fury) autohit. >> In Hell you will run into dual immune monsters. > > Dual light/physical immunes are verrrrry rare, and you can pretty much > always just run. 3 attack types is just a waste. Very (with 5 R's) rare? Will-o-wisp Types (Gloams and Burning Souls) are all lightning immune and 90% physical immune, close enough. Add in Stoneskin and they ARE dual immune. Wraith types are physical immune, add in Lightning Enchanted and they are dual immune too. Finger Mage types are lightning immune and 50% physical resistant. Again, Stoneskin makes them truly dual immune. These are just three examples off the top of my head. If I pulled up a web page and did a little research I'm sure I could find many more examples. So while dual immune lightning/physical monsters are not common, Jerry MUST be prepared to deal with them. And to call them very (with 5 R's) rare is misleading, and doing a disservice to Jerry. Regards- Mark Bongo-Fury > Very (with 5 R's) rare? I don't encounter them often at all, no. > Regards- > Mark > > Bongo-Fury >> Very (with 5 R's) rare? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >> Bongo-Fury Well I would like to thank everyone for your help in getting this gal started. She made it to Nightmare at lvl 34, we did Baal Normal in just 2 runs. She is starting to kick some a.s with 10 pts in Power Strike, 5 in Lightning Strike, 5 in Lightning Fury. Thanks for listening, Jerry |
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