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noneofyourbusiness - 12 Jan 2008 17:06 GMT
Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?

I have a Classic hammerdin with lvl 24 on the appropriate skills and
his damage is in the high 8000's

My LoD Hammerdin has BH at 27, Concentration and Blessed Aim at 24,
and Vigor is around 17, but the damage is barely 5000.
It seems it will only get into the 6000's at the rate it's been
increasing.

Anyone know the scoop?

BTW, I made a Spirit shield...took two tries to get a perfect one :/
I now have 125% FCR. Thanks for the slap on the forehead ;-)

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Shiflet - 12 Jan 2008 22:02 GMT
> Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?

LOL, not even close. My new hammerdin does 13-14k, my old one(with less FCR)
did 15-16k. Hammerdins are considered one of THE strongest builds in LOD.
noneofyourbusiness - 13 Jan 2008 08:28 GMT
>> Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>
>LOL, not even close. My new hammerdin does 13-14k, my old one(with less FCR)
>did 15-16k. Hammerdins are considered one of THE strongest builds in LOD.

What level are your skills at?

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Shiflet - 13 Jan 2008 09:43 GMT
> What level are your skills at?

Blessed Aim and Vigor are maxed(only hard points in these skills boost
damage, so total skill level doesn't matter, just having 20 hard points in
them does), Blessed Hammer is at lvl 43 with gear, Conc is at lvl 37. To
test damage with a somewhat more easily attainable level of +skills, I took
off some +skills stuff, and so at BH 32/Conc 29, my damage is roughly 8k. Of
course, the funny thing is, even 3k hammers can still kill in smaller hell
games...
noneofyourbusiness - 13 Jan 2008 16:51 GMT
>> What level are your skills at?
>
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>course, the funny thing is, even 3k hammers can still kill in smaller hell
>games...

Holy crap...FOUTY THREE !!!

I gotta find me some better gear :/

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Shiflet - 13 Jan 2008 22:08 GMT
> Holy crap...FOUTY THREE !!!

Well, I've gotten lucky with charms, which helps. 6 pally combats on him,
plus torch and anni, that's +10 combat right there. If I ever manage to find
or craft the amulet I want(14+ fcr, +2 pally skills) I'll get it even
higher.
Alan Ladd - 14 Jan 2008 04:52 GMT
> Well, I've gotten lucky with charms, which helps. 6 pally combats on
> him, plus torch and anni, that's +10 combat right there. If I ever
> manage to find or craft the amulet I want(14+ fcr, +2 pally skills)
> I'll get it even higher.

I almost crafted what you wanted. I crafted a +2 pally +8 FCR and a
bonus of +29 life, +16 mana, +6% mana recharge and +37 LR to boot. Hmmm
maybe it's finally time for me to make a Hammerdin.

(For some reason this post ended up in my outbox. I hope I didn't
accidentally emailed my response to you Shiflet. If so, please accept my
apologies.)
Shiflet - 14 Jan 2008 05:57 GMT
> I almost crafted what you wanted. I crafted a +2 pally +8 FCR and a
> bonus of +29 life, +16 mana, +6% mana recharge and +37 LR to boot. Hmmm
> maybe it's finally time for me to make a Hammerdin.

Wow, still nice ammy regardless.

> (For some reason this post ended up in my outbox. I hope I didn't
> accidentally emailed my response to you Shiflet. If so, please accept my
> apologies.)

Even if I'd get it it would have been fine;-)
royls@telus.net - 13 Jan 2008 08:26 GMT
>Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>
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>My LoD Hammerdin has BH at 27, Concentration and Blessed Aim at 24,
>and Vigor is around 17, but the damage is barely 5000.

Remember, the synergy only works for hard points, but the Conc boost
works for the active skill level.  IIRC, you should aim to have your
combined hard points in BA and Vig total about 15 more than your
active Conc aura level.  It looks like you are a little ahead of
yourself on the Conc, and should put the next half-dozen points into
Vig.

>It seems it will only get into the 6000's at the rate it's been
>increasing.

I think you will find that the maxed Vig synergy gets it up into the
right range.

-- Roy L
noneofyourbusiness - 15 Jan 2008 07:46 GMT
>>Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>>
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>
>-- Roy L

Well, my LoD pally now has points equal to or greater than my classic
pally, yet my damage is still only in the high 5000's vs 8000's for
the classic pally.

Could it be I got robbed and some points got "spent" without giving
the actual level increase??

fyi, the stats are as follows:
BH: 27
Conc: 24
BA and Vigor: 24
Damage: mid to high 5000's

My classic hammerdin has 24 across the board and is in the mid to high
8000's for damage.

Maybe it's time to retire this one and start over :(

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royls@telus.net - 16 Jan 2008 04:46 GMT
>>>Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>>>
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>Conc: 24
>BA and Vigor: 24

Presumably this means maxed base.

>Damage: mid to high 5000's
>
>My classic hammerdin has 24 across the board and is in the mid to high
>8000's for damage.

I don't have an explanation for this.  You seem to have the skill
points right.

-- Roy L
Mickey - 26 Jan 2008 01:30 GMT
On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec...@needtoknow.org>
wrote:
> Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>
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>
> ...

My hammerhead last ladder had 125%FCR and did 18k damage  :)

Mickey
Shiflet - 26 Jan 2008 04:50 GMT
>My hammerhead last ladder had 125%FCR and did 18k damage  :)

May I ask what gear you used? Cause from what I understand, max possible
damage on a hammerdin is 18k. And that requires +3 combat skill ammy and
circlet, SoJs/BKs, +2 skills on armor, and HoZ. I'm curious how you hit 125
fcr without a 20 fcr ammy(cant get 3 combat/20 fcr ammy), or Spirit, or
Vipermagi, or FCR rings...only way I've seen anyone get 18k hammers and 125
fcr is by using wizardspike gloves.

Mickey
noneofyourbusiness - 26 Jan 2008 10:13 GMT
>On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec...@needtoknow.org>
>wrote:
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>
>Mickey

FWIW, I used the damage calc from In.Diablo.de and it confirmed that
5k is the range I should be expecting in LoD for the skill points
allotted, so my LoD hammerdin wasn't short changed. Still, I like the
8k range my Classic D2 hammerdin does with the same amout of allotted
points.

Oh, and, Hi Mickey...glad to see you're doing better.

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Mickey - 31 Jan 2008 02:14 GMT
>>On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec...@needtoknow.org>
>>wrote:
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>
> Oh, and, Hi Mickey...glad to see you're doing better.

Thanks :)

Mickey

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Ole Irish - 26 Jan 2008 14:05 GMT
On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec...@needtoknow.org>
wrote:
> Is Blessed Hammers damage nerfed in LoD?
>
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>
> ...

My hammerhead last ladder had 125%FCR and did 18k damage  :)

Mickey

Oh, my Lord.

The mouth is still alive. How are you going bin Tovim? Still telling as many
lies as you can in as short a space as possible?

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~misfit~ - 27 Jan 2008 00:43 GMT
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Ole Irish" typed:
> On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec...@needtoknow.org>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> The mouth is still alive. How are you going bin Tovim? Still telling
> as many lies as you can in as short a space as possible?

Heh! Mickey, you sure are a moron-magnet. Another entry for the killfile....

<plonk>
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Mickey - 31 Jan 2008 02:16 GMT
> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Ole Irish" typed:
>> On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec...@needtoknow.org>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> <plonk>

Never fails... it's only the ones with tiny little egos. The hysterical part
is that they trot them out for all the world to see, and somehow think they
are making ME look bad. could ANYTHING be funnier?

Mickey
Mickey - 31 Jan 2008 02:15 GMT
> On Jan 12, 12:06 pm, noneofyourbusiness <top.sec...@needtoknow.org>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> The mouth is still alive. How are you going bin Tovim? Still telling as
> many lies as you can in as short a space as possible?

Same group, same a.shole,

*plonk*
 
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