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The Mad Alchemist - 24 Dec 2007 06:14 GMT
After several years, I finally got my SP fire sorceress into Hell.
Nightmare Baal was actually much easier than I expected- ice bolt held
him still and allowed the walls of fire to take down his points
(assisted a bit by the merc).

Hell was a bit of a shock- ice bolt doesn't do enough damage to the
fire immune fallen to take them out quickly, and the cold immune
things don't stand still long enough for walls of fire to take them
down.

And then the computer crashed while I was quitting the game,
corrupting the character file, and effectively deleting the
character.  Damn.
Bingain - 24 Dec 2007 08:41 GMT
> After several years, I finally got my SP fire sorceress into Hell.
> Nightmare Baal was actually much easier than I expected- ice bolt held
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> corrupting the character file, and effectively deleting the
> character.  Damn.

While life sux, an SP fire sorc using without tons of +skills
will take another several years to advance to Hell Baal. A fire
sorc without 21 points in FO & CM is among the toughest
endeavors in hell in this game. A remake may cause a little less
time (and you can give the new babe a more enticing name.)

Firewall is extremely hard to use, as you need to develop an
almost flawless prediction on how the monsters will move toward
you and lay the wall vertically by your side, then walk backward
on it.

Generally, a non-trading non-ladder-runeword fire sorc will go
Meteor with FO + CM @1 as backup skill. Meteor is also a timed
skill, but it's much easier to time it than to predict monster
movements, and thus much easier to use. I think it also has the
best firepower output. Fireball is probably cooler (or hotter),
but it relies a lot on faster cast and near unlimited mana.
~misfit~ - 24 Dec 2007 11:36 GMT
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Bingain" typed:

<snip>

> (and you can give the new babe a more enticing name.)

Totally unrelated to the thread but I have an Amazon on West ladder with the
name SmellsLikeChick.

Oh well, just thought I'd mention it. <g>
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TTFN,

Shaun.

"your a moron"
"Neoren", alt.drugs.hard. 20 Oct 2007

"another academic failure.... trying to prove that your smart"
'blanking', nz.comp,  20 Dec 2007.

maxterry@comcast.net - 26 Dec 2007 16:35 GMT
> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Bingain" typed:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> "your a moron"
> "Neoren", alt.drugs.hard. 20 Oct 2007

Oh my God, but this had me howling. Mickey rants constantly that
American's don't know the difference between your and you're, their
and they're and there, to and too and two, etc.

Max
EvilBill - 26 Dec 2007 21:26 GMT
>> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Bingain" typed:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Max

Not just Americans, pretty much everybody these days. People also can't
spell 'you' any more ;)
svenbo - 26 Dec 2007 22:57 GMT
>>> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Bingain" typed:
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Not just Americans, pretty much everybody these days. People also can't
> spell 'you' any more ;)

Language isn't a concrete thing, it's fluid and changes like a river. The
current form of English used in American was different 100 years ago and
almost uncomprehensible before the Elizabethan shift. I hated reading
Shakespeare. We'll all be typing 'U' for you soon.

angst aka poindexstar
Bob I - 27 Dec 2007 00:24 GMT
>>>> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Bingain" typed:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> angst aka poindexstar

Speaking of 'u', what happened to him?
maxterry@comcast.net - 27 Dec 2007 02:16 GMT
> >> maxte...@comcast.net wrote:
> >>>> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Bingain" typed:
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Speaking of 'u', what happened to him?- Hide quoted text -

HE is still playing, just not posting here because he simply got sick
and tired of idiots like PolarRectum and Venerial Disease.

Max
Virtual Den - 28 Dec 2007 13:43 GMT
On Dec 26, 7:24 pm, Bob I <birel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> svenbo wrote:
> >> maxte...@comcast.net wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Speaking of 'u', what happened to him?- Hide quoted text -

HE is still playing, just not posting here because he simply got sick
and tired of idiots like PolarRectum and Venerial Disease.

Max

Mickey you still have an identity crisis. Hey Max how many posts did you
make that were not related to Mickey mouth? If you are not Mickey it is sure
that he f.cks you in the a.s. LOL ;oP Hey sing with me... Mickey here,
Mickey there, Mickey did this, Mickey did that, Mickey mini me, Mickey mini
you, patati patata   Hey Max what do you do when it is not about your double
personnality. Happy new year Mouth... Lol ;oP

VD
EvilBill - 28 Dec 2007 14:02 GMT
> Mickey you still have an identity crisis. Hey Max how many posts did you
> make that were not related to Mickey mouth? If you are not Mickey it is sure
> that he f.cks you in the a.s. LOL ;oP Hey sing with me... Mickey here,
> Mickey there, Mickey did this, Mickey did that, Mickey mini me, Mickey mini
> you, patati patata   Hey Max what do you do when it is not about your double
> personnality. Happy new year Mouth... Lol ;oP

You know if you keep calling him Mouth I'm going to have to assume that
you in fact *are* 'The Rev' (classic transference: accusing someone else
of being the one with multiple identities) and therefore are responsible
for destroying AGD... and I know a lot of people who would like to hack
off your gonads with a rusty tuning fork for that!
Virtual Den - 28 Dec 2007 14:07 GMT
>> Mickey you still have an identity crisis. Hey Max how many posts did you
>> make that were not related to Mickey mouth? If you are not Mickey it is
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> for destroying AGD... and I know a lot of people who would like to hack
> off your gonads with a rusty tuning fork for that!

Mouth is Mouth point because only Mickey is supposed to use Venerial Disease
and you can assume what you want, he attacked me I retaliated so go suck
your little imaginary Max who is Mouth. ;oP

VD
EvilBill - 28 Dec 2007 14:10 GMT
> Mouth is Mouth point because only Mickey is supposed to use Venerial Disease
> and you can assume what you want, he attacked me I retaliated so go suck
> your little imaginary Max who is Mouth. ;oP

Grow up.
wizofwas - 28 Dec 2007 14:20 GMT
> > Mouth is Mouth point because only Mickey is supposed to use Venerial Disease
> > and you can assume what you want, he attacked me I retaliated so go suck
> > your little imaginary Max who is Mouth. ;oP
>
> Grow up.

ROFLMFAO    He is all grown up!!!!   But his
mental age got struck 10 years old!!!!

wizofwas
maxterry@comcast.net - 29 Dec 2007 00:11 GMT
> > > Mouth is Mouth point because only Mickey is supposed to use Venerial
> Disease
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> ROFLMFAO    He is all grown up!!!!   But his
> mental age got struck 10 years old!!!!

As if you haven't played with me often enough to know I am not Mickey
As if anyone with half a brain couldn't tell by my use of language
that I am not Mickey
As if people haven't played with both of us at once...

Typical MO of a liar.... accuse others of lying. The amazing thing is
that he actually thinks anyone here is stupid enough to buy it.

Max
Virtual Den - 28 Dec 2007 14:22 GMT
>> Mouth is Mouth point because only Mickey is supposed to use Venerial
>> Disease and you can assume what you want, he attacked me I retaliated so
>> go suck your little imaginary Max who is Mouth. ;oP
>
> Grow up.

Nah..... I will have to call you mini Mouth. ;oP

Your dear friend VD who wish you a mini new year. ;oP
EvilBill - 28 Dec 2007 21:00 GMT
> "EvilBill" <quake2lives@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>> Grow up.
>
> Nah..... I will have to call you mini Mouth. ;oP

Whatever you say, Rev.
wizofwas - 28 Dec 2007 23:01 GMT
> > "EvilBill" <quake2lives@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Whatever you say, Rev.

Or maybe we should call him mini Rev.  ?

wizofwas
maxterry@comcast.net - 29 Dec 2007 00:09 GMT
> > > "EvilBill" <quake2li...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Or maybe we should call him mini Rev.  ?

Why not, he's a stone cold liar, just like the phony Rev.

Let us look at what he said. He defended calling Mickey Mickey Mouth
by saying that *I* called him venerial disease. First off all, this is
PURE bullshit, the lying little turd has been calling Mickey that for
ages, just about as long as the phone Rev has. Secondly, even if this
WERE true, which we all know it is not, what form of logic dictates
that if person A insults you, you retaliate by insulting person B.

I find it amusing that those who call Mickey a liar, dispite 10 tons
of evidence that he is not, always end up being proven liars
themselves.

Max
RelMark - 27 Dec 2007 04:15 GMT
>> Language isn't a concrete thing, it's fluid and changes like a river. The
>> current form of English used in American was different 100 years ago and
>> almost uncomprehensible before the Elizabethan shift. I hated reading
>> Shakespeare. We'll all be typing 'U' for you soon.
>
> Speaking of 'u', what happened to him?

Moved to WoW, apparently.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.diablo2/msg/8bf421fe40a667b6
(A "where are they now?" thread from last year)

RelMark
~misfit~ - 26 Dec 2007 23:00 GMT
Somewhere on teh intarweb "maxterry@comcast.net" typed:
>> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Bingain" typed:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Max

Hehee! It was a classic, that's why it made my sig for a while. The crazy
thing is, this guy likes to write "stories" (that he thinks are worthy of
publishing) and post them to the group and they're really, really bad.
However, because they involve drugs and sex, other Googletards* fall all
over him, saying how good they are. He is then encouraged and "writes" more.
It really is pathetic.

++++++++

*Googletard: Someone who previously had no knowledge of usenet until they
got a Gmail account. They usually have know zero about usenet conventions
and refer to the group as a 'site' or a 'forum'. Sure signs are multiple
postings (because it didn't "show up"), claims to have deleted certain posts
and mentions of "ratings".

It is my contention that, pre-GooGroups, the average IQ of usenet was 110+,
mainly due to the requirement of having to firstly know it existed and
secondly set up a newsreader and find a providor. T'was a great place to
hang.

Since the mass take-up of GG and the influx of the Hoi Polloi the IQ average
has dropped to below 100**, due not only to the influx but compounded by
previous usenet stalwarts leaving in disgust.

If it wasn't for true usenet users sometimes using GG for convenience I'd
killfile all GG postings. Sadly, since the advent of GG, quite a few ISPs no
longer run their own NNTP servers and some smaller usenet providors have
gone under, being unable to compete with a free service.

++++++++

** It is my considered opinion that the human race is devolving. Becoming
less intelligent as a whole. We live in a time where our evolution has been
short-circuited. As a rule the successful have few children while the
unsuccessful sit in their trailers and fornicate the day away, resulting in
multiple children. No longer do the less "able" drop from the gene-pool. In
fact the opposite is occuring. They are more likely to contribute most to
the next generation. I see this as one of the greatest hurdles that the
human race has to overcome, hopefully before we breed ourselves back into
the dark ages.

On that note....

Happy New Year. <g>
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Shaun.

wizofwas - 27 Dec 2007 03:39 GMT
> Somewhere on teh intarweb "maxterry@comcast.net" typed:
> >> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Bingain" typed:
> >>
> >> <snip>

> ++++++++
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Happy New Year. <g>

This seems to be even more true now that mediocracy is
being rewarded more and more and achievers are being
punished more and more.

And Ya'all have a Happy New Year too.  :-)

wizofwas
EvilBill - 27 Dec 2007 13:14 GMT
> *Googletard: Someone who previously had no knowledge of usenet until they
> got a Gmail account. They usually have know zero about usenet conventions
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> has dropped to below 100**, due not only to the influx but compounded by
> previous usenet stalwarts leaving in disgust.

It's sad. I've been on Usenet since 1997 and I've only used Google to
look up old posts. Well, I did post using it once, when my NNTP server
was down. <g>
~misfit~ - 27 Dec 2007 23:05 GMT
Somewhere on teh intarweb "EvilBill" typed:

>> *Googletard: Someone who previously had no knowledge of usenet until
>> they got a Gmail account. They usually have know zero about usenet
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> look up old posts. Well, I did post using it once, when my NNTP server
> was down. <g>

Sad indeed. I've been on usenet about the same amount of time and, back
then, even most other "connected" folks had no idea what usenet was or how
to access it. I've watched it's decline and it's not pretty.

BTW, I think I've made a couple posts using GooGrue while I was between NNTP
suppliers. I've certainly used them for looking up archived mateial. It's a
shame they couldn't have just left it at that, archiving, like Deja news did
before Goo bought them out.

Cheers,
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Shaun.

EvilBill - 28 Dec 2007 12:04 GMT
> Somewhere on teh intarweb "EvilBill" typed:
>>> *Googletard: Someone who previously had no knowledge of usenet until
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> then, even most other "connected" folks had no idea what usenet was or how
> to access it. I've watched it's decline and it's not pretty.

Indeed :(
Ugly enough that I restrict myself now to a few select NGs, this being
one of them.
freemont - 27 Dec 2007 12:40 GMT
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 08:35:48 -0800, maxterry writ:

> American's don't know the difference between your and you're

heheh...

(or how to use an apostrophe)

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royls@telus.net - 24 Dec 2007 20:10 GMT
>After several years, I finally got my SP fire sorceress into Hell.
>Nightmare Baal was actually much easier than I expected- ice bolt held
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>corrupting the character file, and effectively deleting the
>character.  Damn.

You do know that you can backup SP char files, right?  There are seven
files with the associated char name, just copy them to another folder.

But Bingain is right: that was a build that was going to see you
collecting Social Security before she ever faced Hell Baal.  Post-1.09
SP chars need careful building to be Hell-viable.  If you want any
advice, just ask.

Have you got other chars on the go, or did they all get toasted?

-- Roy L
The Mad Alchemist - 24 Dec 2007 23:40 GMT
On Dec 24, 12:10 pm, ro...@telus.net wrote:

> You do know that you can backup SP char files, right?  There are seven
> files with the associated char name, just copy them to another folder.

Yeah- I think I do have a backup from this character, from back when
she was battling through early NM.

> Have you got other chars on the go, or did they all get toasted?

I still have my skellimancer, who is in the last stages of Act V Hell,
but wasn't a carefully built character, so I don't know if he'll get
anywhere.  And I have an assassin on USWest, who just hit Nightmare.
svenbo - 25 Dec 2007 07:03 GMT
On Dec 24, 12:10 pm, ro...@telus.net wrote:

> You do know that you can backup SP char files, right? There are seven
> files with the associated char name, just copy them to another folder.

Yeah- I think I do have a backup from this character, from back when
she was battling through early NM.

> Have you got other chars on the go, or did they all get toasted?

I still have my skellimancer, who is in the last stages of Act V Hell,
but wasn't a carefully built character, so I don't know if he'll get
anywhere.  And I have an assassin on USWest, who just hit Nightmare.

Just use a character editor and remake her. Atma I think.

angst aka poindexstar
ArtDent - 27 Dec 2007 00:42 GMT
> > Have you got other chars on the go, or did they all get toasted?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Just use a character editor and remake her. Atma I think.

Or, use the /act(x) switch.  You add a space and then /act1-5 after the
last quote mark in the 'run' command line of the properties of the D2
shortcut.  It starts new characters at different levels, with stat and
skill points ready to allocate where ever you want.  I don't think it
affects existing char's, but to be safe it is probably best to remove it
again once you get the char you want.
They will be 'naked', but that is where ATMA comes in. :)

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The Mad Alchemist - 29 Dec 2007 10:38 GMT
> I still have my skellimancer, who is in the last stages of Act V Hell,
> but wasn't a carefully built character, so I don't know if he'll get
> anywhere.

HA!!!!!

Sardonicus, my not-so-carefully crafted skellimancer, has just earned
the title of patriarch, having slain Baal in SP Hell.

Many thanks to the fellow who created ATMA, without which I'd never
have been able to save up all the gems and runes I needed to get there
(I admit, I somewhat cheated by duping some fal runes into the ums I
needed for Bone armour).

And thanks to the people on this group who offered good advice on how
to deal with gloams and other bastards.  (No thanks at all to the
fellow who simply told me to "shitcan" the character, after learning
that I hadn't followed the pre-approved standard build for a
skellimancer.)

And it only took me five years....

(Not playing him all the time, of course, but I bought the game five
years ago, and Sardonicus was my first character.)
 
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