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Bald White Male 47 165 lbs - 27 Jul 2007 14:08 GMT

Act 2, arcane whatever and I keep getting killed
by the guys guarding Horazan's diary. I've got
the box, a couple of PG's and the usual shops.
Any advice?

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ArtDent - 27 Jul 2007 16:18 GMT

> Act 2, arcane whatever and I keep getting killed
> by the guys guarding Horazan's diary. I've got
> the box, a couple of PG's and the usual shops.
> Any advice?

Tell us what char type you are playing and we can maybe give you some hints
on how to take down the Summoner.

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Bald White Male 47 165 lbs - 27 Jul 2007 16:39 GMT

> On 27-Jul-2007, Bald White Male 47 165 lbs <bengle@twcny.rr.com>
> wrote:
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> Tell us what char type you are playing and we can maybe give you some
> hints on how to take down the Summoner.

Barbarian. I like to be next to them when I kill them,
so I can eat them while they're still fresh.

Skills are sword, mace, and axe. I haven't
put anything into range weapons, because I
like to wear the shield.

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The Shadow - 27 Jul 2007 16:49 GMT

You shouldnt put points in all 3 weap masteries, you should have it in
just 1

>> On 27-Jul-2007, Bald White Male 47 165 lbs <bengle@twcny.rr.com>
>> wrote:
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> put anything into range weapons, because I
> like to wear the shield.

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ArtDent - 27 Jul 2007 17:31 GMT

> Barbarian.

Leap. Or Leap Attack.
To the monsters, and away from monsters when in trouble..
Take your time. Clear the 'regular' monsters first.
Or.
Jump right in and take out Summoner so he is not shooting those cold orb
thingies.
Perhaps try some throwing weapon, so you can still use a shield - at least
on switch.

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Bald White Male 47 165 lbs - 28 Jul 2007 06:56 GMT

> On 27-Jul-2007, Bald White Male 47 165 lbs <bengle@twcny.rr.com>
> wrote:
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> Perhaps try some throwing weapon, so you can still use a shield - at
> least on switch.

I hadn't thought of using thrown axes. Sounds like I
need to get all the cold resistance I can as well.
Thanks.

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Black Cat Hag - 29 Jul 2007 08:08 GMT

>> On 27-Jul-2007, Bald White Male 47 165 lbs <bengle@twcny.rr.com>
>> wrote:
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>need to get all the cold resistance I can as well.
>Thanks.

Hmm,thrown axes would be handy. A rogue merc with a good bow works too.

I make a run at the platform with my paladin, dodging his minions and zig zagging in
a random pattern so the summoner can't "put a bead" on me.
That's the most important part,to keep moving and zig zagging,so his mega-strong
missile fire can't hit you before reaching him.

If there's too many minions,just dart out,grab their attention,then lead them away so
you can safely kill them a few at a time. Then just dodge the rest until you finish
off the summoner. He seems to hat few hit points,making him easy to kill if you can
get close enough to hit him.

But if thrown axes or maybe knives would work,heck I'd give that a shot first. Can't
barbs throw two weapons at once?

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Bald White Male 47 165 lbs - 29 Jul 2007 21:12 GMT

> But if thrown axes or maybe knives would work,heck I'd give that a
> shot first. Can't barbs throw two weapons at once?

Yes we can :D I started a new character with the
latest patch, just to be sure we're all on the
same page here.

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royls@telus.net - 28 Jul 2007 01:43 GMT

>> On 27-Jul-2007, Bald White Male 47 165 lbs <bengle@twcny.rr.com>
>> wrote:
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>Barbarian. I like to be next to them when I kill them,
>so I can eat them while they're still fresh.

OK, what combat skill are you using? Conc?

>Skills are sword, mace, and axe. I haven't
>put anything into range weapons, because I
>like to wear the shield.

What weapon are you using? The Summoner is easy to kill, but his
spells can hurt. What are your resists like? You have a shield, but
are there any diamonds in it?

The best general advice is just to have some patience, take the crowd
on one at a time, retreat if things get sticky, and keep wearing away
at them.

And if you think the Summoner is hard to beat, you haven't tried
soloing Duriel.

-- Roy L

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Zombie Elvis - 28 Jul 2007 07:18 GMT

>Act 2, arcane whatever and I keep getting killed
>by the guys guarding Horazan's diary. I've got
>the box, a couple of PG's and the usual shops.
>Any advice?

That depends on your character. If you are an Amazon for example, you
can just spam the platform with Guided Arrow until all the bad guys
are dead. A Sorceress might want to cast a bunch of Firewalls on the
platform. A summoning Druid can cast his animals and a Necromancer can
cast a Golem on the platform. Paladins and Barbarians will probably
have to either lure The Summoner's demons away from the platform and
kill them one by one before going after The Summoner who usually goes
down quite easily.
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will pelt you with dung."
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Gumby - 28 Jul 2007 16:13 GMT

> That depends on your character. If you are an Amazon for example, you
> can just spam the platform with Guided Arrow until all the bad guys
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> kill them one by one before going after The Summoner who usually goes
> down quite easily.

Barbarians have the least problems with the Summoner of any class,
unless they've been rushing and are below level 18 by that point and
therefore haven't gotten Leap Attack yet (a standard part of any
cookie-cutter build, probably mainly becuause of the Summoner :).

Paladins, on the other hand, don't seem to have any option other than to
fight their way through the hordes, at least in Normal when they're not
likely to have Fist of the Heavens by the time they reach the Summoner
(unless he's undead?)

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~shady angel~ - 30 Jul 2007 00:44 GMT

> Act 2, arcane whatever and I keep getting killed
> by the guys guarding Horazan's diary. I've got
> the box, a couple of PG's and the usual shops.
> Any advice?

Hi, try going back and leveling a wee bit.

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neithskye - 30 Jul 2007 15:44 GMT

On Jul 27, 9:08 am, Bald White Male 47 165 lbs <ben...@twcny.rr.com>
wrote:

> I've got the box, a couple of PG's and the usual shops.

I have no idea what this means.

> Any advice?

It sounds as though you are perhaps getting swarmed. IIRC, the
Summomer starts shooting at you from very far away, so my usual advice
of using one of the best skills in the game - Taunt - might not help
you here if you are taking mucho damage from the Summoner's spells.
Nevertheless, you might try that at least on some of the Ghosts. Taunt
one, then run out of range of the spells, while the Ghost flies over
from the platform to you.

The Summoner's spells hurt, but he has relatively little health. The
best thing to do is just charge him. To avoid the monsters with him,
just keep spamming Howl the minute you see the Summoner's platform.

--
Jill

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Al Smith - 30 Jul 2007 16:01 GMT

> On Jul 27, 9:08 am, Bald White Male 47 165 lbs <ben...@twcny.rr.com>
> wrote:
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> --
> Jill

I've been killed by the Summoner so many times, I'm an expert on
this subject.

One way to fight him is to coax your nervous nellie of a mercenary
into range to fight. This involves running into harm's way and
sort of dancing around until the dumb merc figures out where he
should go. Then once he or she is engaged you can step back

Trouble with the Summoner is, he can kill you when you still can't
even see him.

Last time I fought him, in Nightmare with my Paladin Manfred, I
just ran right into the midst of the bad guys. To my surprise,
they couldn't kill me quickly, so I got the Summoner, who is easy
to kill once you can see him and hit him.

It helps to have lots of life points and a good strong defense, so
that you don't die from the first thing he throws at you.

-Al-

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EvilBill - 30 Jul 2007 19:29 GMT

> On Jul 27, 9:08 am, Bald White Male 47 165 lbs <ben...@twcny.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've got the box, a couple of PG's and the usual shops.
>
> I have no idea what this means.

I imagine the cube, a couple of pGems and the usual vendors in town.

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Bald White Male 47 165 lbs - 31 Jul 2007 21:51 GMT

"EvilBill" <quake2lives@gmail.com> wrote in news:5h6p07F3hcpsdU1
@mid.individual.net:

>> On Jul 27, 9:08 am, Bald White Male 47 165 lbs <ben...@twcny.rr.com>
>> wrote:
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>
> I imagine the cube, a couple of pGems and the usual vendors in town.

See? I told you I was a newbie. I haven't even
learned the jargon yet. The new character I started
just arrived in loot goldmine and is busy cleaning
out the sewers. This time I concentrated the skills
on sword and double throw/double swing. Brought my
merc with me, making sure she's got good armor and
a good bow. Paid to have her ressurected after
andariel knocked us both flat. Went after her
naked except for throwing knives in each hand
to get my armor back. Run, run, throw, chug-a-lug
grab armor and repeat until sparks fly out of
her fanny. Fun!

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ArtDent - 31 Jul 2007 22:38 GMT

> Went after her
> naked except for throwing knives in each hand
> to get my armor back. Run, run, throw, chug-a-lug
> grab armor and repeat until sparks fly out of
> her fanny. Fun!

I love throwing knives for almost every char type.
For act one at least anyway.
A decent set or two with a couple/three damage charms should be able to
take most char types thru most of act two even. Replenish quantity and
cold damage are my personal two favorite mods. Besides the 'main'
advantage of replen quan, a major (for a new char) second advantage is that
it costs one gold to repair/replenish no matter how few are left. The cold
damage is so that those pesky Fallen become puddles that their Shamans can
not revive.

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Al Smith - 31 Jul 2007 23:51 GMT

>> > Went after her
>> > naked except for throwing knives in each hand
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> damage is so that those pesky Fallen become puddles that their Shamans can
> not revive.

That's my favorite thing about cold damage. Pop! Revive that, sucker!

-Al-

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