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Euro 2008 Predictions League Final Standings

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Miljenko - 30 Jun 2008 16:42 GMT
Pos:  Ch:  Name:                          R: Gm: Pt: 4P: 3P: 2P:
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 1. ( - ) Diesel                          6  31  53   5   3  12
 2. ( - ) Timofei Shatrov                 6  31  52   3   6  11
 3. ( +1) Mark Goodge                     6  31  47   6   3   7
 4. ( -1) Pivotalgubbins                  6  31  45   5   5   5
 5. ( - ) The Wielder of the Scythe       6  31  44   5   2   9
 6. ( - ) Miljenko                        6  31  42   4   2  10
 7. ( - ) Hari Seldon                     6  31  40   4   2   9
 8. ( - ) Chris F                         6  31  35   2   3   9
 9. ( - ) Nick the Greek                  6  31  28   3   0   8
10. ( +1) Dougal                          6  31  28   1   2   9
11. ( -1) Stephen Weir                    6  31  27   1   5   4
12. ( - ) AGCM Oracle                     6  31  25   2   1   7
13. ( - ) biz                             3  24  23   1   1   8
14. ( - ) Toby                            5  30  18   2   2   2

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np: Fleet Foxes - Oliver James
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Miljenko - 30 Jun 2008 16:45 GMT
> Pos:  Ch:  Name:                          R: Gm: Pt: 4P: 3P: 2P:
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>   1. ( - ) Diesel                          6  31  53   5   3  12

Congratulations Diesel!

I'm sure Wielder has a trophy ready... ;-)

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The Wielder of the Scythe - 30 Jun 2008 21:16 GMT
>> Pos:  Ch:  Name:                          R: Gm: Pt: 4P: 3P: 2P:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>   1. ( - ) Diesel                          6  31  53   5   3  12
>
> Congratulations Diesel!
> I'm sure Wielder has a trophy ready... ;-)

And here it is.

               "',,            "'
      ///        :          ' ''      \ \\
            /        :   "  '''
                "      |     // ///
                    ''       //
                      '
                       '   /
                         1
                         /\
                       / \/ \
                      _|/ \|_
                 |__________|
                       |\/ \/|
                    \  |/\ /\|      /"'?     ---#----
     : \''.    \`\'.  |  |/|| \   |  /          (L--)==+0
    :    \     ||   |\ ||| / ||  \ ||| /          yy
   j   _  \   ||__/__\ | |_  /_| \ |/  __^^^^ ____
      |______/____\_/_  _\__ _ /___\_|/
               |  |   |   |   |  |     |
   ~~~~|~~|~~~|~~~|~~~|~~|~~~~~~
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
  ': :::"'''*** ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ****  ..:. .'
           )          DIESEL          (
              }          is             {
                 ]     KING        [
                   |     \    /       |
                    |                |
                   !!  _.'  '._  !!
                     `""""""""""`
           ____)   Euro 2008  (____
          / AGCM Prediction League\
           \\\       CHAMPION      ///
             ###____ _______ __###
                        [         ]
                          (     )
                          _(  )_
                         |         |
                      /=+++++=\
                   ===========

A trophy to fit the winner of the name. (I hope )

Plucked out of the North Sea and squished and miniturised into a trophy of  
astounding wonderment.

This is EXTREMELY (in caps as well) valuable. Seen the price of a barrel  
of oil lately?
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Mark Goodge - 30 Jun 2008 18:49 GMT
>Pos:  Ch:  Name:                          R: Gm: Pt: 4P: 3P: 2P:
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>  1. ( - ) Diesel                          6  31  53   5   3  12
>  2. ( - ) Timofei Shatrov                 6  31  52   3   6  11
>  3. ( +1) Mark Goodge                     6  31  47   6   3   7

That's surprisingly good, given that I predicted 1-0 for every game.

Mark
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Miljenko - 01 Jul 2008 23:20 GMT
>>  1. ( - ) Diesel                          6  31  53   5   3  12
>>  2. ( - ) Timofei Shatrov                 6  31  52   3   6  11
>>  3. ( +1) Mark Goodge                     6  31  47   6   3   7

> That's surprisingly good, given that I predicted 1-0 for every game.

What can I say, you predicted good winners. :-) 1 - 0 is of course the
most often result and was even more often in this tournament (~19% of
games) than usual (~12% of games).

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Mark Goodge - 02 Jul 2008 07:12 GMT
>>>  1. ( - ) Diesel                          6  31  53   5   3  12
>>>  2. ( - ) Timofei Shatrov                 6  31  52   3   6  11
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>most often result and was even more often in this tournament (~19% of
>games) than usual (~12% of games).

That was partly the point of the experiment - to see how well I could
score just by picking the statistically most likely winner and just
going for the statistically most probable result each time.

Apart from showing that it's not a bad default strategy, the other
thing it indicates is that you have to be very good at predicting to
beat it. The key to winning a predictions league is not predicting the
likely results, it's knowing when to predict an unlikely one and get
it right. That's what makes Diesel's achievement worth congratulating.

Mark
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Pivotalgubbins - 01 Jul 2008 00:09 GMT
> Pos:  Ch:  Name:                          R: Gm: Pt: 4P: 3P: 2P:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>   1. ( - ) Diesel                          6  31  53   5   3  12
>   2. ( - ) Timofei Shatrov                 6  31  52   3   6  11
>   3. ( +1) Mark Goodge                     6  31  47   6   3   7
>   4. ( -1) Pivotalgubbins                  6  31  45   5   5   5

Congrats Diesel, shame I faded at the end.

Oh, and I played 30, as I missed the Germany v Turkey match, not that it
would have made a blind bit of difference.

>   5. ( - ) The Wielder of the Scythe       6  31  44   5   2   9
>   6. ( - ) Miljenko                        6  31  42   4   2  10
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>  13. ( - ) biz                             3  24  23   1   1   8
>  14. ( - ) Toby                            5  30  18   2   2   2

On behalf of us all, cheers for running this Miljenko, much fun!

:)))

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AGCM World Cup Prediction League Champion 2006

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Diesel - 01 Jul 2008 12:05 GMT
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>
> Congrats Diesel, shame I faded at the end.

Ta!

> Oh, and I played 30, as I missed the Germany v Turkey match, not that it
> would have made a blind bit of difference.
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>
> On behalf of us all, cheers for running this Miljenko, much fun!

Agreed, cheers.

> :)))
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Miljenko - 01 Jul 2008 23:20 GMT
>>   1. ( - ) Diesel                          6  31  53   5   3  12
>>   2. ( - ) Timofei Shatrov                 6  31  52   3   6  11
>>   3. ( +1) Mark Goodge                     6  31  47   6   3   7
>>   4. ( -1) Pivotalgubbins                  6  31  45   5   5   5

> Congrats Diesel, shame I faded at the end.
> Oh, and I played 30, as I missed the Germany v Turkey match, not that it
> would have made a blind bit of difference.

I know, but you get all the games counted from a round you participate
in, even if you don't predict some. It's a feature. ;-)

> On behalf of us all, cheers for running this Miljenko, much fun!
> :)))

Thanks! :-)

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np: Sons and Daughters - Flags
   (from: This Gift, 2008.)

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Timofei Shatrov - 01 Jul 2008 17:02 GMT
>Pos:  Ch:  Name:                          R: Gm: Pt: 4P: 3P: 2P:
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>  1. ( - ) Diesel                          6  31  53   5   3  12
>  2. ( - ) Timofei Shatrov                 6  31  52   3   6  11

Congrats Diesel, it was a good fight.

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