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Game Forum / Nintendo / GameCube / October 2004zelda a sign of the future?
does anybody else here think that the look of the new zelda is a sign that nintendo are finally listening to their critics and starting to try and appeal to an older audience? or is it because this look works best for them in the ocarina of time, and in fact they aint learned at all? > does anybody else here think that the look of the new zelda is a sign that > nintendo are finally listening to their critics and starting to try and > appeal to an older audience? > > or is it because this look works best for them in the ocarina of time, and > in fact they aint learned at all? It might just be because, as I recall, Wind Waker had a definitive ending, and they're just going back to the /other/ universe now :D Pluto (M) wrote: >>does anybody else here think that the look of the new zelda is a sign that >>nintendo are finally listening to their critics and starting to try and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It might just be because, as I recall, Wind Waker had a definitive ending, > and they're just going back to the /other/ universe now :D which zelda games did not have a definitive ending? > Pluto (M) wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > which zelda games did not have a definitive ending? I meant a definitive ending in which things happened like... S T A N D A R D S P A C E Hyrule being disbanded, or whatever? Pluto (M) wrote: >>Pluto (M) wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Hyrule being disbanded, or whatever? i thought wind waker was part of the main zelda universe? isnt the timeline something like: ocarina [random offshoot that is majora's mask] wind waker (which then changes the landscape) a link to the past (long period of time) legend of zelda adventures of link the only alternate zelda universe i can think of is the games on the gameboy and gameboy color.... or am i totally missing something? > Pluto (M) wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > the only alternate zelda universe i can think of is the games on the > gameboy and gameboy color.... or am i totally missing something? The way I remember it is that it went like this Ocarina (Wind Waker Offshoot) Majora, Link to the Past (Seasons/Ages/Awakening), Legend of Zelda, Adventure of Link. But I might be wrong. I'm pretty sure this is how it went, tho. Pluto (M) wrote: >>Pluto (M) wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > But I might be wrong. I'm pretty sure this is how it went, tho. you could be right, but who can say for sure? heh - only shigeru could tell us the way it actually happened - and i think he would probably admit that continuity between the games is tenuous at best! > does anybody else here think that the look of the new zelda is a sign > that nintendo are finally listening to their critics and starting to try > and appeal to an older audience? An "older audience" probably means gamers who played during the NES and SNES console generations. If this is so, then the cartoony style should appeal more to them. I'm 28 and Wind Waker makes me nostalgic about the old Zeldas, especially Zelda III. >>does anybody else here think that the look of the new zelda is a sign >>that nintendo are finally listening to their critics and starting to try [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > If this is so, then the cartoony style should appeal more to them. lets face it, those who played the NES and SNES who now continue to play video games are the main reason nintendo still sells consoles - they have established themselves in many peoples mind, including my own, as creators and producers of quality games with a universal appeal... however, it is relying on this core audience is also the reason why nintendo is falling behind and no longer the video games giant it used to be - if nintendo are to survive against the financially stronger sony or microsoft they need to expand their audience rather than continuing to cater for the slowly dwindling number of people who loved their NES nearly 20 years ago... by "older audience" i did not mean gamers who played during the 8 and 16-bit eras, instead i was referring to the huge market of casual gamers who sit in the 16-25ish age group who may or may not have played on nintendo's systems when they were younger but refuse to buy any more nintendo products because they are not "cool" enough - for the casual gamer console ownership is all about impressing your friends, and GTA3 will impress alot more casual gamers than wind waker ever will... personally i would never want to see the day that nintendo's cartoony games are a thing of the past but unless nintendo sort out their act and start appealing to the testosterone fueled casual gamers (who vastly outnumbers the core audience of nintendo loyalists) then nintendo's cartoony games *will* be a thing of the past... > I'm 28 and Wind Waker makes me nostalgic about the old Zeldas, > especially Zelda III. wind waker is an excellent game, and i love the cel shaded style, possibly the best example i have ever seen of cel shaded graphics and what is more they feel like part of the game rather than a gimmicky graphical style..... but even i cannot ignore the fact that the cartoony look of wind waker has damaged the sales of what is currently nintendo's strongest franchise - despite the sales being very good, wind waker should have been *the* game to sell millions of cubes... > wind waker is an excellent game, and i love the cel shaded style, possibly > the best example i have ever seen of cel shaded graphics and what is more [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > franchise - despite the sales being very good, wind waker should have been > *the* game to sell millions of cubes... Well, it sold me a Cube...and Animal Crossing sold me a 2nd Cube. I wanted an N64 when they came out (would have been my 1st console) but they were sold out everywhere I looked to the point where I got frustrated with Nintendo and waited until Xbox came out which I grabbed at release. I was happy with just the Xbox until Zelda WW came out... then I just had to have a Cube. |
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