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Game Forum / Nintendo / GameCube / June 2004XIII is really good, bitches
I'm not a *huge* FPS fan, but I impulsively picked this up for $20 last week and have been hooked on this game ever since. *Great story line + really fun gameplay. And there's a really good blend of shooter + stealth strategy. I dunno why it got such poor reviews, I think its great. Sidenote: Is David Duchovney's career that far down the sh.tter that he's doing voice overs for vids now? > I'm not a *huge* FPS fan, but I impulsively picked this up for $20 last week > and have been hooked on this game ever since. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > And there's a really good blend of shooter + stealth strategy. I dunno why > it got such poor reviews, I think its great. I think it's one of the best FPS for the GC. Be one with your crossbow. > I think it's one of the best FPS for the GC. Be one with your crossbow. Sweet, sweet crossbow... > I'm not a *huge* FPS fan, but I impulsively picked this up for $20 > last week and have been hooked on this game ever since. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > And there's a really good blend of shooter + stealth strategy. I > dunno why it got such poor reviews, I think its great. Bad reviews? Severe lack of multiplayer options. Can't change weapon sets for a map and few game options. Worse, the console exclusive mission type is one of the worst kind of gimmicks. Each console gets an exclusive multiplayer mission type, for a game that was already short of mission types. (The PC version by the way gets each of the exclusives in addition to everything else.) Not the greatest interface. The GC version at the least doesn't even save multiplayer settings, even though it actually saves each time in multiplayer. It doesn't even keep settings between matches, much less between plays. (So if you don't like thinks like the poor-for-MP analog sensitivity or the non-inverted look, get used to changing it every single time you play a multiplayer match.) The game didn't meet pre-release promises. The designers had in interviews mentioned other features that were in the works or outright promised that didn't make it into the final game. While it isn't always fair to rate a game on what didn't make the final cut, XIII had built up a lot of hype from game promises in interviews. The story just kind of drops at the end, presumably for a planned sequel that likely will never be made. Compared to other FPS available, it just doesn't excel enough to be more special than them. The PC is the best version, but the PC has much better FPS. The GC/PS2/Xbox also have better, unless you only play FPS for the story mode. It's fun, but the lack of options and variety really hurts the deathmatch replay, and deathmatch is a big factor of any FPS review. Both in the long run and the short run, it gets tired fast. > Snip XII "bashing" > > It's fun, And that's all that matters. I had a blast. You, my friend, were not one with the crossbow. Aside from the comic strip aspect, this game had many subtleties that made it worth playing. It wasn't just about being an FPS. I think many people missed that. AND, it had Adam West, aka the mayor of Quahog. Now, how can you turn your nose up to that?? > Bad reviews? > > Severe lack of multiplayer options. it's primarily a single player game and as such is a very good one > The story just kind of drops at the end, presumably for a planned > sequel that likely will never be made. it's based on a french comic book and is apparently faithful to it, so can't really knock the story. > Compared to other FPS available, it just doesn't excel enough to be > more special than them. The PC is the best version, but the PC has > much better FPS. The GC/PS2/Xbox also have better, unless you only > play FPS for the story mode. multiplayer was thrown in as an extra to sucker people like you (who obviously aren't interested in a good story) into buying it. and guess what, it worked. > It's fun, but the lack of options and variety really hurts the > deathmatch replay, and deathmatch is a big factor of any FPS review. > Both in the long run and the short run, it gets tired fast. in any case, i never read a bad review for it. >> Bad reviews? >> >> Severe lack of multiplayer options. > > it's primarily a single player game and as such is a very good one It's okay as a single player game. It has nice ideas, but doesn't seem to excel with those ideas quite enough for me. From a story POV, it seems a little disjointed as well. Sure, it has a better story than TimeSplitters 2 (which might as well not have a story), but I don't know if I'd say it was a better single player game than TS2 (and I have plenty of issues with TS2 as well). >> The story just kind of drops at the end, presumably for a planned >> sequel that likely will never be made. > > it's based on a french comic book and is apparently faithful to it, so > can't really knock the story. Being based on something (it is based on the French comic of the same name) doesn't justify or excuse story issues in the game itself. If I were to make "The Notebook" into an FPS game that is faithful to the movie, it likely isn't going to be a good FPS, and saying it is based on "The Notebook" isn't going to make it a better FPS. So why should the end of the story of XIII (the game) be excused so much because it is based off of a comic? It was the developers' source choice, and the developers' choice for how to execute and present it, and ultimately the developers' choice for just what the storyline would be. >> Compared to other FPS available, it just doesn't excel enough to be >> more special than them. The PC is the best version, but the PC has [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > obviously aren't interested in a good story) into buying it. and guess > what, it worked. *laugh* How do you know I'm not interested in a good story? Perhaps I didn't find XIII to be a good enough story to justify its other faults? Perhaps I didn't find it to even be a good story. Or found it to be a good story that was hindered by the game itself. > Compared to other FPS available, it just doesn't excel enough to be > more special than them. The PC is the best version, but the PC has > much better FPS. The GC/PS2/Xbox also have better, unless you only > play FPS for the story mode. sorry - you do have a point here. there's a disappointingly low number of good FPS for the cube. does anyone know if far cry will ever make it? > Sidenote: Is David Duchovney's career that far down the sh.tter that he's > doing voice overs for vids now? He was in the recent movie Connie and Carla do L.A... not exactly blockbuster but quite a fun film.  SignatureFrom Mr. Bogus (aka Paul) - hiding place reality. >> Sidenote: Is David Duchovney's career that far down the sh.tter that he's >> doing voice overs for vids now? Doing videogame voiceovers is actually quite lucrative, and trendy for actors these days. Many top stars like Pierce Brosnan, Judi Dench, Willem Dafoe, Michael Madsen, Christopher Walken, Gary Oldman, Michelle Rodriguez, Joe Pantoliano, Ray Liotta, Hugh Jackman etc etc have done voices for videogames. Get a fat paycheck for standing in a booth for an afternoon, reading some lines off a script. Sounds good to me! >>> Sidenote: Is David Duchovney's career that far down the sh.tter >>> that he's doing voice overs for vids now? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > booth for an afternoon, reading some lines off a script. Sounds good > to me! It depends somewhat on the title. Getting the real actors for movie tie-ins isn't that strange, though it sometimes doesn't happen due to costs. (Which does illustrate perhaps illustrate the payday aspect of voice work.) Some movies presumably have game work tied into the movie contracts themselves. I'm pretty sure the Enter the Matrix work was part of the contracts for the second movie. And EA can afford to get the current (and some of the past) Bond actors for a particularly big budget Bond game. Some of the people are also videogame fans. While Vin Diesel was paid for his work, I'm sure he wanted to do his character's voice for Escape from Butcher Bay, considering that he is an outspoken videogame fan who wanted at one time to fund a game production company. And guys like Patrick Stewart have been doing game voices for a decade or maybe more. Patrick Stewart himself is possibly a big factor in how actors look at game voicework these days. An actor might look down at Bruce Campbell or Phil Hartman voicing for games, but many actors probably look at Patrick Stewart and see a guy with better credentials than they have is doing the same. (And Stewart will openly admit he does it for the paycheck. But he also treats it like other work.) (I'd bet Christopher Walken is the same way. He's fairly practical about a payday.) |
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