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Will Nintendo do another "Super Mario All-Stars"?

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Grand Inquisitor - 21 Jun 2004 00:24 GMT
I was playing some N64 games today for the first time in about a year or
two, and I was struck by how dated (and blurry) the graphics were.  I
remember thinking Pilotwings 64 and Super Mario 64 were impressive!  Do
you suppose Nintendo will ever do what they did with Super Mario
All-Stars, i.e. take classic older games, give them shiny new graphics,
and release them as a compilation?  Except for putting OoT in
higher-resolution they don't seem to be too interested in this.

Just think of the games that seem so dated now, like Body Harvest and
Blast Corps that would get a new lease on life just from some sharper
graphics?

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sardu - 21 Jun 2004 01:07 GMT
Not if they can make money releasing one at a time.  =(

> I was playing some N64 games today for the first time in about a year or
> two, and I was struck by how dated (and blurry) the graphics were.  I
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> Blast Corps that would get a new lease on life just from some sharper
> graphics?
Grand Inquisitor - 21 Jun 2004 05:23 GMT
> Not if they can make money releasing one at a time.  =(

We occasionally get a burst of generosity from them, like the Zelda
disc.  Though it would've been nice of them to include LttP in there.
And also to do it right the first time so I don't buy a Gamecube just
for the Zelda disc (I gave my old one to my brother as a "present").
Okay so they've got another hundred bucks of mine that they wouldn't
have had if they'd done it right initially, but at least now I have the
purple GC I always wanted.

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Severe Silvergun - 27 Jun 2004 07:57 GMT
>> Not if they can make money releasing one at a time.  =(
>
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> have had if they'd done it right initially, but at least now I have the
> purple GC I always wanted.

Why in the world didn't you just subscribe to Nintendo Power for $20??

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SevenSamurai - 21 Jun 2004 04:01 GMT
>I was playing some N64 games today for the first time in about a year or
>two, and I was struck by how dated (and blurry) the graphics were.

I was annoyed how blurry the games were when they were NEW.  Time has
only made that problem worse.
Grand Inquisitor - 21 Jun 2004 05:26 GMT
>>I was playing some N64 games today for the first time in about a year or
>>two, and I was struck by how dated (and blurry) the graphics were.
>
> I was annoyed how blurry the games were when they were NEW.  Time has
> only made that problem worse.

Hey, in 1996 a textured, tri-linear mip-mapped, anti-aliased, shaded
polygon was a wonder to behold.  Frankly I wouldn't have minded ditching
the anti-aliasing for a higher resolution.  I never thought the N64
handled real-time anti-aliasing very well, not like today's machines.

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Robert P Holley - 22 Jun 2004 19:15 GMT
> I was playing some N64 games today for the first time in about a year or
> two, and I was struck by how dated (and blurry) the graphics were.  I
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> Blast Corps that would get a new lease on life just from some sharper
> graphics?

Small world.  I recently played thru a bunch of N64 games over the
past month or two as well.

Perfect Dark (boy all that lighting and lensflare really slows teh
game down)
James Bond TWINE (not a bad following to goldeneye)
Pokemon League Puzzle
Conker (altho I stopped after the E3 showing figure I'll play it
later)
Wave Race (still holds up well)

But yes, the graphics are pretty bad after being used to all this
next-gen goodness.

As for Body Harvest and Blast Corp, I dont think Nintendo could
re-release them since they don't own their rights.  It would only be
their first party games.
Grand Inquisitor - 22 Jun 2004 23:33 GMT
>>I was playing some N64 games today for the first time in about a year or
>>two, and I was struck by how dated (and blurry) the graphics were.  I
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> But yes, the graphics are pretty bad after being used to all this
> next-gen goodness.

Whereas I went back to Yoshi's Island and was still wowed by the
eye-popping graphics.  And it's not because the SNES is the pinnacle of
2D graphics capabilities, it isn't.  It had a limited resolution,
limited memory, limited color palette, limited animation.  Just to do
the sprite effects in Yoshi's Island it needed the SuperFX2 chip (which
is actually a set of chips).  And if you look at older 3D games like
Daytona USA, you can still appreciate the graphics.  N64 sacrificed
resolution for advanced texturing techniques, which I don't mind, but I
think there was *too much* trade-off.

> As for Body Harvest and Blast Corp, I dont think Nintendo could
> re-release them since they don't own their rights.  It would only be
> their first party games.

Yeah, but I didn't necessarily mean they would release it.  In fact,
both of those games are from the original "dream team."  Rare and DMA
were intimately connected with Nintendo at that time.  In fact Miyamoto
had a hand in Body Harvest.

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