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Game Forum / Nintendo / GameCube / April 2004Burnout 2 - is there a better arcade racer available ?
Hi, I am looking for a great and not too difficult arcade racing game. Burnout 2 looks good. Need for Speed Underground is not quite my pair of shoes, too much tuning, too little fun. Now, do you think there is something I should try before I buy Burnout 2? I have to get it new because nobody seems to sell it at a reasonable price. Is R: Racing an alternative? cheers, stephan There's a good reason why you can't find it used. It's a great f-ing game! My buddy told me how awesome it was, and I just bought it blind. I don't regret it. I find my self having a hard time tearing my self away from the game. The crash mode alone makes the game worth buying. I got mine at EB games for 30$ Cdn. Go buy it! Chris > Hi, > I am looking for a great and not too difficult arcade racing game. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > cheers, > stephan > There's a good reason why you can't find it used. It's a great f-ing game! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Go buy it! I agree, it's a great game. But shop around, some retailers are still selling it for full price, when the actual MSRP has been dropped to $29.99 CDN ($19 USD). I've seen some EB's here in Canada selling it for $69, one was selling it for $49 used, but I finally found it at one store for $29. > Hi, > I am looking for a great and not too difficult arcade racing game. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 2? I have to get it new because nobody seems to sell it at a > reasonable price. Is R: Racing an alternative? No, I'd say Burnout 2 is the best available. The next best, and almost as good, is Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2. It's not like Underground; no tuning, just fun. But I'm only talking about the PS2 version. The Gamecube, Xbox, and even PC versions are horrible, nearly unplayable ports. If you can't get the PS2 version, don't get it at all. >> Hi, >> I am looking for a great and not too difficult arcade racing game. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Gamecube, Xbox, and even PC versions are horrible, nearly unplayable ports. > If you can't get the PS2 version, don't get it at all. The GCN version of NfS: HP2 is hardn't "horrible" or "nearly unplayable." It doesn't have a perfect framerate but it really gave me little problems other than not looking perfectly smooth. The framerate is still fast enough not to interfere with your driving. Personally though, I found Burnout 1 as good if not better than Burnout 2. I liked the Crash mode being added, but didn't like how they removed biggest crash and most overall damage as a statistic in the main game. The most fun my friend and I ever had with either of the games was on the first driving around trying to be the most prolific crasher...which was more fun in the normal context of the game than in the crash mode. R: Racing isn't an arcade racer, it is a sim...just a fluffy one. It has its appeal and wouldn't be a bad choice for a racing fan but not if you want an arcade racer. Overall though I'd say go with one of the Burnouts but if you need more choices down the road don't rule out the other two either.  SignatureBondo- "Proof that sexual minorities own PS2s and Xboxes as well." > The GCN version of NfS: HP2 is hardn't "horrible" or "nearly unplayable." It > doesn't have a perfect framerate but it really gave me little problems other > than not looking perfectly smooth. The framerate is still fast enough not to > interfere with your driving. Yes, it is "horrible" and yes, the extremely bad framerate does interfere--heavily--with your driving. Well, my driving. I don't know how you drive. I remember when you bought it, against my advice, without even trying the PS2 version--despite the much better graphics on that version and the perfect framerate. But Stephan doesn't have to listen to me. Most reviews of the game mention the far superior PS2 version, also. It's a shame. Burnout 2 on the Cube is better than on PS2. NFS just didn't get the same effort put into the port. > Personally though, I found Burnout 1 as good if not better than Burnout 2. I > liked the Crash mode being added, but didn't like how they removed biggest > crash and most overall damage as a statistic in the main game. The most fun > my friend and I ever had with either of the games was on the first driving > around trying to be the most prolific crasher...which was more fun in the > normal context of the game than in the crash mode. Burnout 1 was very good, but way too short. I beat everything it had to offer in one long evening. Burnout 2 is what a good sequel should be: they improved everything. Graphics, sound, physics--for better gameplay, and especially better crashes, and they improved the stats too. They didn't remove the biggest crash or most damage statistic like you said. Not at all--in fact, it's now tracked for each course with a name ranking as well. Plus other stats like most oncoming, most burnouts, most air, most drift, etc. And there are more tracks, more cars, and more modes. It took me a few days of solid play to get through everything in Burnout 2. Burnout 1 is just a rental. 2 is a keeper. >> The GCN version of NfS: HP2 is hardn't "horrible" or "nearly unplayable." > It [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the far superior PS2 version, also. It's a shame. Burnout 2 on the Cube is > better than on PS2. NFS just didn't get the same effort put into the port. Well, I'm not saying the PS2 version isn't better (it seemed to me Stephan is not a PS2 owner...if he was I'd have recommended Midnight Club 2.) There are a lot of reviews of various GCN games (SSX Tricky is another one) that point out framerate stutters but I've almost never noticed it. Maybe I am just not as attuned to the differences between 25 and 35 fps. The only problem I had with the GCN version was it got too difficult and I couldn't open up the best cars...the difficulty wasn't to do with the framerate. Which version I bought is somewhat a non-factor though as I've pretty much never played it multiplayer and I never play it anymore (don't get around to old games much.) SignatureBondo- "Born Again Multiconsole Owner" "Bondo" <happyhappy@joyjoy.com> wrote in message news:BCAAA5F7.DBBD% > Well, I'm not saying the PS2 version isn't better (it seemed to me Stephan > is not a PS2 owner...if he was I'd have recommended Midnight Club 2.) There [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > never played it multiplayer and I never play it anymore (don't get around to > old games much.) I agree, the GC gets some unfair "framerate problem" claims. I've tried a lot of games across multiple platforms, and couldn't find these supposed framerate problems. SSX Tricky had the same very minor stutters that affect nothing on all 3 platforms, and other games had none whatsoever despite reviews saying otherwise. But some GC ports are just bad--Baldur's Gate and Gauntlet: Dark Legacy have bad framerates, much worse than on PS2. But NFS is the worst I've seen, by far. If it weren't, I'd have recommended it. And maybe he'll get it anyway and like it, but I'm not going to pretend like it's not a bad port. I warned him just like I warned you. > I agree, the GC gets some unfair "framerate problem" claims. Personally, I never take much notice of claimed "framerate drops". Mostly because I couldn't care less. Maybe today's gamer-generation is spoiled shitless or something, but I am not bothered with framerates lower than 60fps or an occasional drop. It doesn't ruin the gameplay for me. Other people's standards may differ but that's my opinion (and it makes gaming all the more enjoyable if you're not nitpicking every damn game over silly non-issues). > But NFS > is the worst I've seen, by far. If it weren't, I'd have recommended it. > And maybe he'll get it anyway and like it, but I'm not going to pretend like > it's not a bad port. The thing with NFS:HP2 was that it wasn't a port. It was redeveloped for the Cube (and the Box) by another studio than the PS2 version. Hence the PS2 version was done right and the other two were rush jobs. "Bram" <spamdustbin@yahoo.com> wrote in message > The thing with NFS:HP2 was that it wasn't a port. It was redeveloped for > the Cube (and the Box) by another studio than the PS2 version. Hence the > PS2 version was done right and the other two were rush jobs. Oh...that's right, now that you mention it, I remember. It was done by one developer for PS2 and another developer did the Cube, Xbox, and PC versions--three, actually, not even just two. No wonder they were the lousy ones--poor guys had to do 3 versions!. In the year of the Monkey, "Leon Dexter" <leondexterNOSPAM@earthlink.net> had a vision and proclaimed >> The GCN version of NfS: HP2 is hardn't "horrible" or "nearly unplayable." >It [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Yes, it is "horrible" and yes, the extremely bad framerate does >interfere--heavily--with your driving. It was actually far from horrible. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Paid only 10 Euros for it and wasn't expecting much because of the lukewarm reviews it had received, but definitely got my money's worth out of it. The fact that other games are better doesn't render a lesser game "horrible". >Now, do you think there is something I should try before I buy Burnout >2? I have to get it new because nobody seems to sell it at a >reasonable price. I got Burnout 2 for the 'cube new last week for only $20. It's a great bargain. Tom > Hi, > I am looking for a great and not too difficult arcade racing game. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 2? I have to get it new because nobody seems to sell it at a > reasonable price. Is R: Racing an alternative? Try www.dvdsoon.com - very cheap for Burnout 2 Hello, thank you all for your opinions. Yes, I own a Gamecube only, PS2 or XBox were not for me. I got it because I like the way Nintendo produces Hardware (Controllers, noise of the unit, Design in general) and Games (like MarioKart or MetroidPrime). I will get Burnout 2. To be sure I rented it and was convinced about five seconds after I hit the Burnout. Button for the first time. Great sound, fluent graphics, cars that are controllable at high speed and drift nicely - and it is fast enough. Very, very nice. Stephan >Hi, >I am looking for a great and not too difficult arcade racing game. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >cheers, >stephan "Stephan M." <balu007@gmx.de> wrote in message > thank you all for your opinions. > Yes, I own a Gamecube only, PS2 or XBox were not for me. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sound, fluent graphics, cars that are controllable at high speed and > drift nicely - and it is fast enough. Very, very nice. Glad to hear it. It's a great game. In not quite the same genre, Smuggler's Run: Warzones is fun. And for speed, F-Zero GX can't be beat. And if you like games like WipEout, Extreme G3 is a great game as well, a couple of my friends and I prefer it over F-Zero GX. Burnout2 is indeed a great game, crash mode is total insanity :^) |
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