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Resident Evil: Outbreak Online for gamecube?
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Vic Mackey - 25 Jan 2004 00:54 GMT I was thinking of getting a gamecube for Resident evil outbreak online.I thought RE games were exclusive to Gamecube, but it looks like only PS2 will get it.I do have a ps2 but the graphics are far from great and the loading times are horrific.Has anyone heard if RE outbreak online will be on Gamecube?
Android - 25 Jan 2004 02:19 GMT > I was thinking of getting a gamecube for Resident evil outbreak online.I > thought RE games were exclusive to Gamecube, but it looks like only PS2 will > get it.I do have a ps2 but the graphics are far from great and the loading > times are horrific.Has anyone heard if RE outbreak online will be on > Gamecube? Do you think Capcom is going to bother making RE: Outbreak for the 100 or so people who actually purchased a GameCube broadband adaptor? The answer is no--it's just for the PS2.
Indiana - 25 Jan 2004 03:31 GMT >Do you think Capcom is going to bother making RE: Outbreak for the 100 or so >people who actually purchased a GameCube broadband adaptor? The answer is >no--it's just for the PS2. You grossly underestimate the number of people who bought those for Mario Kart.
TheLightsAreOn - 25 Jan 2004 06:59 GMT >>Do you think Capcom is going to bother making RE: Outbreak for the 100 >>or so people who actually purchased a GameCube broadband adaptor? The >>answer is no--it's just for the PS2. > > You grossly underestimate the number of people who bought those for > Mario Kart. And PSO. It was at least 250. :)
 Signature If a videogame doesn't cause frustration, then it's probably not a very good game. 'borrowed' from Zack_Bastard
M3wThr33 - 27 Jan 2004 02:34 GMT >> I was thinking of getting a gamecube for Resident evil outbreak >> online.I thought RE games were exclusive to Gamecube, but it looks [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > or so people who actually purchased a GameCube broadband adaptor? The > answer is no--it's just for the PS2. Hey, there's also people who bought it to pirate games!
Eiji Hayashi - 26 Jan 2004 15:53 GMT > I was thinking of getting a gamecube for Resident evil outbreak online.I > thought RE games were exclusive to Gamecube, but it looks like only PS2 will > get it.I do have a ps2 but the graphics are far from great and the loading > times are horrific.Has anyone heard if RE outbreak online will be on > Gamecube? regarding this last sentence. I have a PS2 AND I not only have Resident Evil Outbreak, I've finished it in Offline mode and I can tell you you're smoking too much weed if you think the graphics are far from great. However, you are correct about the loading time, especially on RE:Outbreak, it has by far the worst loading time of any game on the PS2 I've ever seen!
As for sales, Capcom announced that RE: Outbreak has already sold over 400K on the PS2, which is near their target of 500K. As Android says, on the limited GC online community, they'd be lucky to get 1% of that, so the chance of it coming to GC is slim at best.
El Guapo - 26 Jan 2004 21:46 GMT > > I was thinking of getting a gamecube for Resident evil outbreak online.I > > thought RE games were exclusive to Gamecube, but it looks like only PS2 will [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > on the limited GC online community, they'd be lucky to get 1% of that, > so the chance of it coming to GC is slim at best. To say that they would be "lucky" to sell a mere 4-5000 copies on the Gamecube, online or not, is pretty idiotic. Also, from what I've read, Capcom is considering a UK release that would not be online, so obviously there is more to the game than just the online feature.
Danoot - 27 Jan 2004 00:09 GMT > > "Vic Mackey" <nospam@spam.com> wrote in message > news:<CtEQb.142939$xy6.631374@attbi_s02>... [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Capcom is considering a UK release that would not be online, so obviously > there is more to the game than just the online feature. I believe - and I may be wrong, here, I'm not always up with the hip lingo you kids use these days, but I believe that 400k means four hundred thousand. Not four thousand. dys?
El Guapo - 27 Jan 2004 02:19 GMT > > > "Vic Mackey" <nospam@spam.com> wrote in message > > news:<CtEQb.142939$xy6.631374@attbi_s02>... [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > lingo you kids use these days, but I believe that 400k means four > hundred thousand. Not four thousand. dys? Yes, and 1% of 400,000 is equal to... what?
Danoot - 27 Jan 2004 14:35 GMT > > > > "Vic Mackey" <nospam@spam.com> wrote in message > > > news:<CtEQb.142939$xy6.631374@attbi_s02>... [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Yes, and 1% of 400,000 is equal to... what? marijuana?
El Guapo - 27 Jan 2004 17:46 GMT > > > > > "Vic Mackey" <nospam@spam.com> wrote in message > > > > news:<CtEQb.142939$xy6.631374@attbi_s02>... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > marijuana? That's your answer for everything.
Danoot - 28 Jan 2004 12:56 GMT > > > > > > "Vic Mackey" <nospam@spam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:<CtEQb.142939$xy6.631374@attbi_s02>... [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > That's your answer for everything. No it's not, sometimes I use force.
Eiji Hayashi - 27 Jan 2004 17:16 GMT > To say that they would be "lucky" to sell a mere 4-5000 copies on the > Gamecube, online or not, is pretty idiotic. Also, from what I've read, why? how many copies of PSO did they sell?
> Capcom is considering a UK release that would not be online, so obviously > there is more to the game than just the online feature. That would totally defeat the purpose of RE:Online. Furthermore, while there is an offline mode, you can't finish all the scenarios in offline mode. There are some parts of the game that must be finished in online mode.
El Guapo - 27 Jan 2004 17:52 GMT > > To say that they would be "lucky" to sell a mere 4-5000 copies on the > > Gamecube, online or not, is pretty idiotic. Also, from what I've read, > > why? how many copies of PSO did they sell? Enough to generate a sequel.
> > Capcom is considering a UK release that would not be online, so obviously > > there is more to the game than just the online feature. > > That would totally defeat the purpose of RE:Online. Regardless, that's what they are thinking about doing. Obviously Capcom believes that it might sell even without the online component.
> Furthermore, while > there is an offline mode, you can't finish all the scenarios in > offline mode. There are some parts of the game that must be finished > in online mode. I'm sure that limitation could be removed, and if not, it doesn't really matter when it comes to a Gamecube version, does it? The people who play it online will be able to do those sections, the rest will play what they can offline. Much like PSO.
Eiji Hayashi - 28 Jan 2004 14:51 GMT > > why? how many copies of PSO did they sell? > > Enough to generate a sequel. do you honestly believe PSO ep 3 is a "sequel" of the previous PSOs?
> Regardless, that's what they are thinking about doing. Obviously Capcom > believes that it might sell even without the online component. it might seem "obvious" to you.. but I don't hold stock in rumours
> I'm sure that limitation could be removed, and if not, it doesn't really > matter when it comes to a Gamecube version, does it? The people who play it > online will be able to do those sections, the rest will play what they can > offline. Much like PSO. We're talking about the rumoured PAL offline version of Outbreak, not some hypothetical in the cloud GC version of Outbreak.
El Guapo - 29 Jan 2004 13:23 GMT > > > why? how many copies of PSO did they sell? > > > > Enough to generate a sequel. > > do you honestly believe PSO ep 3 is a "sequel" of the previous PSOs? Having the same name and being called "Episode 3," following the release of "Episode 1" and "Episode 2" is kind of a hint in that direction, wouldn't you say?
> > Regardless, that's what they are thinking about doing. Obviously Capcom > > believes that it might sell even without the online component. > > it might seem "obvious" to you.. but I don't hold stock in rumours Whatever.
> > I'm sure that limitation could be removed, and if not, it doesn't really > > matter when it comes to a Gamecube version, does it? The people who play it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > We're talking about the rumoured PAL offline version of Outbreak, not > some hypothetical in the cloud GC version of Outbreak. What's the difference? The point is still valid.
Eiji Hayashi - 29 Jan 2004 20:24 GMT > Having the same name and being called "Episode 3," following the release of > "Episode 1" and "Episode 2" is kind of a hint in that direction, wouldn't > you say? That's like saying Resident Evil Deadly Aim is a sequel to the regular RE series. Name is irrelevent when the game is totally different.
> > it might seem "obvious" to you.. but I don't hold stock in rumours > > Whatever. that's my line
> > > I'm sure that limitation could be removed, and if not, it doesn't really > > > matter when it comes to a Gamecube version, does it? The people who [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > What's the difference? The point is still valid. I don't know what point you're trying to make. I'm talking that if Outbreak is offline only, then it would cease to be the same game and would totally defeat the purpose of RE: Outbreak, which is the online capability. How is some hypothetical in the cloud GC version of Outbreak relevent to that topic?
El Guapo - 30 Jan 2004 00:25 GMT > > Having the same name and being called "Episode 3," following the release of > > "Episode 1" and "Episode 2" is kind of a hint in that direction, wouldn't > > you say? > > That's like saying Resident Evil Deadly Aim is a sequel to the regular > RE series. Name is irrelevent when the game is totally different. Maybe if Resident Evil Deady Aim was instead being called, say, Resident Evil 4, then you might have a point.
> > > it might seem "obvious" to you.. but I don't hold stock in rumours > > > > Whatever. > > that's my line Whatever.
> > > > I'm sure that limitation could be removed, and if not, it doesn't really > > > > matter when it comes to a Gamecube version, does it? The people who [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > capability. How is some hypothetical in the cloud GC version of > Outbreak relevent to that topic? OK, I'll type this very slowly so that you will understand. You said that the "the chance of it coming to GC is slim at best," because it would not sell well, due to the "limited GC online community." I pointed out that there was more to the game than just the online feature, that some or all of the online portions could be made accessible offline, and that Capcom was already considering releasing the game in the UK without online support. In other words, the chances of it being ported to the Gamecube might be higher than you think, because the game could sell well even without a strong "community" of online gamers.
Would this then "cease to be the same game" and "totally defeat the purpose of RE: Outbreak?" I don't know, and I really don't care. I'm talking about whether or not Capcom might port it to the Gamecube, not the pitfalls of what can happen when a game is ported to another system. Whether Capcom ports it is going to be determined by how they think it will sell, or by whatever exclusive contracts they might already have out there, or what kind of deal Nintendo might offer them. I seriously doubt that it will have much to do with making sure Outbreak maintains its integrity as a online game.
Eiji Hayashi - 30 Jan 2004 17:03 GMT > > That's like saying Resident Evil Deadly Aim is a sequel to the regular > > RE series. Name is irrelevent when the game is totally different. > > Maybe if Resident Evil Deady Aim was instead being called, say, Resident > Evil 4, then you might have a point. I think you're tied up too much with semantics. Whether or not it has a number or a name beside the series name is irrelevent, a card game can not be considered a sequel to a online RPG, just like a lightgun game can't be considered a sequel to a survival horror adventure game
> > I don't know what point you're trying to make. I'm talking that if > > Outbreak is offline only, then it would cease to be the same game and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the online portions could be made accessible offline, and that Capcom was > already considering releasing the game in the UK without online support. In and I then argue that by doing so, that would totally defeat the purpose of RE:Outbreak. I don't hear you making any arguments against this.
> other words, the chances of it being ported to the Gamecube might be higher > than you think, because the game could sell well even without a strong > "community" of online gamers. then it wouldn't be Outbreak.. they might as well release another RE game then, because it's not Outbreak. The whole point of Outbreak is its online gameplay, take that away and it ceases to become Outbreak. We're not talking about a game that has online play as a "side feature", eg: something like Ghost Recon for example which has online play for the XBOX version but not on the PS2 version, we're talking about a game that was developed from the ground up to be an online game. Its like saying if I were to remove the online feature of PSO and make it a purely offline game, would it still be PSO? I don't think so.
> Would this then "cease to be the same game" and "totally defeat the purpose > of RE: Outbreak?" I don't know, and I really don't care. I'm talking about [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > of deal Nintendo might offer them. I seriously doubt that it will have much > to do with making sure Outbreak maintains its integrity as a online game. I think its quite clear and we understand each other. Capcom can certainly port it, with its name intact, as a completely offline game. I'm not a Capcom executive so I can't control if they're going to do it or not. But what I can say is if they do so, as far as I'm concerned it would cease to be the same game. It comes down to definition. You think games with the same name is the same game, whereas I think a game with the same name which plays totally different are NOT the same game.
El Guapo - 30 Jan 2004 18:23 GMT > > > That's like saying Resident Evil Deadly Aim is a sequel to the regular > > > RE series. Name is irrelevent when the game is totally different. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > can not be considered a sequel to a online RPG, just like a lightgun > game can't be considered a sequel to a survival horror adventure game Sorry, but YOU are the one arguing semantics. It's Episode III of Phantasy Star Online, following Episide I & II. According to Sega, "This next chapter in the PSO universe continues the story of PSO Episodes I & II." Yup, sounds like a sequel to me.
> > > I don't know what point you're trying to make. I'm talking that if > > > Outbreak is offline only, then it would cease to be the same game and [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > purpose of RE:Outbreak. I don't hear you making any arguments against > this. Assuming the game has a purpose besides making Capcom money, then you're probably right.
> > other words, the chances of it being ported to the Gamecube might be higher > > than you think, because the game could sell well even without a strong [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and make it a purely offline game, would it still be PSO? I don't > think so. I didn't say anything about making it purely offline. I said it could be made to be playable offline (which it pretty much is already) and some of the online content could be made available offline as well. This is what Sega did with PSO, so that makes for a very nice example.
> > Would this then "cease to be the same game" and "totally defeat the purpose > > of RE: Outbreak?" I don't know, and I really don't care. I'm talking about [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > whereas I think a game with the same name which plays totally > different are NOT the same game. OK.
cj - 31 Jan 2004 01:20 GMT > > "El Guapo" <plethora@pinatas.com> wrote in message > news:<IvhSb.182313$xy6.879182@attbi_s02>... [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > > OK. He likes your, after all, you're guapo.
Eiji Hayashi - 31 Jan 2004 06:16 GMT > > I think you're tied up too much with semantics. Whether or not it has > > a number or a name beside the series name is irrelevent, a card game [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > chapter in the PSO universe continues the story of PSO Episodes I & II." > Yup, sounds like a sequel to me. arguing two games that are in totally different genres are not the same game is not arguing semantics. This is EXACTLY analoguous to saying FFXI is a sequel to the FF series. Ask anybody in the FF forum and they will tell you it most definitely is NOT.. despite having an addition 1 added to the number, and neither is PSO ep 3 a sequel to PSO.
> > then it wouldn't be Outbreak.. they might as well release another RE > > game then, because it's not Outbreak. The whole point of Outbreak is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I didn't say anything about making it purely offline. I said it could be ? ? ? that's exactly what you were arguing!
> made to be playable offline (which it pretty much is already) and some of then why bother stating that there's a rumor that the PAL version is purely offline? what's the point of raising that? your logic confused me.
> the online content could be made available offline as well. This is what > Sega did with PSO, so that makes for a very nice example. now I'm even more confused. RE: Outbreak is ALREADY playable offline.. I should know I finished the damn thing. So why would you argue that "it could be made to be playable offline" as oppose to "Purely offline"? unless you're not aware that it has an offline mode.
> > I think its quite clear and we understand each other. Capcom can > > certainly port it, with its name intact, as a completely offline game. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > OK. I'm glad we understand each other on that point
cj - 31 Jan 2004 01:02 GMT > > > That's like saying Resident Evil Deadly Aim is a sequel to the regular > > > RE series. Name is irrelevent when the game is totally different. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I think you're tied up too much with semantics. I'd like to see you tied up...with a ball gag...in my mouth. You're a hot f.ck, bitch.
Eiji Hayashi - 31 Jan 2004 06:27 GMT > > "El Guapo" <plethora@pinatas.com> wrote in message > news:<IvhSb.182313$xy6.879182@attbi_s02>... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I'd like to see you tied up...with a ball gag...in my mouth. > You're a hot f.ck, bitch. Friend of yours El? though somehow I doubt it
Phil - 28 Jan 2004 05:01 GMT > > To say that they would be "lucky" to sell a mere 4-5000 copies on the > > Gamecube, online or not, is pretty idiotic. Also, from what I've read, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > offline mode. There are some parts of the game that must be finished > in online mode. Only becuase the japanese version will have another mode added by way of a download meanwhile the US version will most likely include it from the get go.
Phil - 27 Jan 2004 06:34 GMT > I was thinking of getting a gamecube for Resident evil outbreak online.I > thought RE games were exclusive to Gamecube, but it looks like only PS2 will > get it.I do have a ps2 but the graphics are far from great and the loading > times are horrific.Has anyone heard if RE outbreak online will be on > Gamecube? No, you'll wanna get a Cube for RE4 thoough.
BombayMix - 27 Jan 2004 13:47 GMT > I was thinking of getting a gamecube for Resident evil outbreak online.I > thought RE games were exclusive to Gamecube, but it looks like only PS2 will > get it.I do have a ps2 but the graphics are far from great and the loading > times are horrific.Has anyone heard if RE outbreak online will be on > Gamecube? Only RE games within the main story continuity are exclusive to the GC. In other words games with a number suffix, ie RE0 and RE4. RE:Outbreak and the recent gun games are outside the main story continuity and therefore not covered by the deal.
The games are only exclusive for a limited timed too. Since Capcom have continually re-released RE1, RE2 etc. on different consoles don't be surprised to see RE0 and RE4 on the PS2 or even PS3 once the deal with Nintendo runs out.
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