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Leapster...this is actually pretty cool

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Wantomeeto - 19 Dec 2003 01:42 GMT
I got a Leapster for my kids this year.  I am super impressed with it.  The
games are well designed from an entertainment point of view even though they
are educational.  They have a nice polish to them.  I think the graphics are
interestingly unique as well.  Maybe its due to the macromedia flash
abilities.  Laugh if you want but if this handheld had decent flash type
games for older kids it would give the GBA a serious run for the money.  I
hope they release games before it is hacked...

check it out
Wantomeeto - 20 Dec 2003 14:07 GMT
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> I got a Leapster for my kids this year.  I am super impressed with it.  The
> games are well designed from an entertainment point of view even though they
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> check it out
DeepThought - 20 Dec 2003 14:24 GMT
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> Bump

Ah, this isn't alt.baby.toys.crap.crap.crap

No need to "bump" your message. You think we'd trade in our (literal)
thousands of titles like Metroid Fusion and Sims for a machine who's three
games include Dora the Explorer, Spongebob, and "1st Grade"?

If you think this'll give the GBA a (in your words) "serious run for the
money", you need your head examined.

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Wantomeeto - 21 Dec 2003 04:16 GMT
I said "if" it had games einstein.  Everything isn't an attack on the GBA.
Purely a technical appreciation for it.  It is well made.  Try opening your
mind

> Wantomeeto whipped out his/her/its Personal Electronic Thing, summoned
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> If you think this'll give the GBA a (in your words) "serious run for the
> money", you need your head examined.
DeepThought - 21 Dec 2003 05:00 GMT
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> I said "if" it had games einstein.  Everything isn't an attack on the
> GBA. Purely a technical appreciation for it.  It is well made.  Try
> opening your mind

It clearly was an attack on the GBA, retard. You came to a GBA group, stated
a product in the same GENERAL category (handheld electronic game players)
and said it would "give the gba a serious run for the money". How is that
not an attack? The product isn't even close to the same age range, mind.
It's like going into a Sony group and saying "that VideoNow player is going
to give Sony DVD players a serious run for the money". A shoddy product for
children directed as an attack on a more sophisticated and supported piece
of machinery.

Boy, I'd sure hate to be Dell or Alienware. This'll give their mobile
systems some fatal competition:
http://tinyurl.com/284wz

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Wantomeeto - 21 Dec 2003 17:12 GMT
Let's get past this and try to at least have an objective discussion about
this.  I posted it here because the GB was the closest newsgroup I could
find
DeepThought - 21 Dec 2003 21:06 GMT
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> Let's get past this and try to at least have an objective discussion
> about this.  I posted it here because the GB was the closest
> newsgroup I could find

Ok, but it's still a "competitor product" (and I use that loosely). Fine,
objectivity is fine.

Let's look at the pros and cons.

Leapster:
<Pros>
Apparently nice flash-like graphics.
<Cons>
Large and bulky
Geared for a low age range
Low support
Three or four games: SpongeBob, Dora, and "1st Grade" I know
No third-party accs.
No FIRST party accs.

I'm sure there's more. This is just looking at a picture of the thing.

GBA SP:
<Pros>
LARGE number of games (range in the thousands)
Games for young players
Games for older players
Small and light
Internal light
Rechargeable battery
Buttons NEVER wear out
Made by long-time Video game maker
Many first and third-party accessories
Backwards-compatible with the more countless thousands of older titles
Nice SNES-like graphics.
With a flash cart, can become anything from an organizer to a calculator
Ports of classic games
Many new titles
Clamshell design resists scratched screen
With TPA can become a TV
<Cons>
Ahm... Er... reflective screen kind of hard to see in weird light
conditions... ah... if you smash it into pieces with a sledgehammer, it
might not be able to be repaired... um... doesn't play XBox games... if
ingested, may cause upset stomach...

Seriously, I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.

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Wantomeeto - 23 Dec 2003 02:47 GMT
> Let's look at the pros and cons.
>
> Leapster:

> <Pros>
> Apparently nice flash-like graphics.

Agreed.  The graphics are decent.  Sometimes ghosting in the form of lines
occurs with white lines on a dark background.  The screen has rather large
pixels as well.  Kind of like looking at a TV up close.  Pretty nice size
though for watching movies - if I can hack it for video-in.

> <Cons>
> Large and bulky

Agreed.  Heavy in my hands as I play it over time.  The kids put it in their
lap or on the side of the couch.

> Geared for a low age range

Yep.  But hopefully they will throw some non-educational games out at a
later date.  Or, hopefully it will be hacked for flash games.

> Low support

Unknown - have heard that people with problems with the leappads get
replacements when theirs go bad.

> Three or four games: SpongeBob, Dora, and "1st Grade" I know

Its brand new - so a quiet fall '03 release with 6 1st party games is pretty
good - don't you think?

> No third-party accs.

we will have to see

> No FIRST party accs.

brand New - well have to wait and see

> I'm sure there's more. This is just looking at a picture of the thing.
>
> GBA SP:

Ummm...I really don't want to compare these - only because its not apples to
apples.  But if you were to compare say, the hardware.  It is using a 32 bit
risc processor with 12 bit graphics and 8 channel stereo sound.  The screen
has the GBA beat in size plus it is touch screen.

Now...if the system was hacked and flash games were easily ported to it.or
available legally for it - and they were good games..then I would rather
play games on a Leapster than a GBA.  IMO.

> <Pros>
> LARGE number of games (range in the thousands)
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> Seriously, I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.
Sinbad_EV - 25 Dec 2003 21:08 GMT
I don't like opening my mind, dust get's in and messing with my thought
processes... personally I hope that IF this system is cool people DO hack
it... cause I don't like things to be too edjamacational...

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> I said "if" it had games einstein.  Everything isn't an attack on the GBA.
> Purely a technical appreciation for it.  It is well made.  Try opening your
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> > Erase the Earth
> > to e-mail me.
Wantomeeto - 31 Dec 2003 01:05 GMT
Well,  this thing is going to have issues.  We returned the first one and
the second is going back as well.  The calibration routine used to sych the
pen and touch screen display is flawed and does not complete.  Therefore,
without calibration the unit is useless.
 
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