Does the word 'RARE' ring any bells? SFA perhaps...?

Oh come on, Rare are bad yes - but that's like saying Charles Manson wasn't
bad because Hitler was worse. Nintendo *do* delay games, and I'm 35 years
old, so perhaps I've got more of a history with this company than you to be
able to adequately judge their past form, I don't know. Their games are
often delayed, and in the past this hasn't been too bad a thing, as it's
normally for the right reasons...making the games better, and the sole
reason I love them (and hate them...'N' and I have a love/hate affair going
on). Yes, they have got better....because they stopped delaying games to
make them better, they no longer can afford to - which was why versions of
games like Mario Kart, Zelda, Super Mario, Waverace, Starfox and many others
were actually better games on the last system, N64. But this delay isn't for
the good old reason, the one that had our interests at heart, this is to use
ZTP to try and flog us their next console.......when I for one want to play
games on the console I've invested in already - Gamecube, and should expect
to, frankly.

And ZTP could have been ready for a Spring/Summer at latest 2006 release
date, of that I'm convinced.

We'll see, I have a habit of reviving old posts from the archive, so don't
be surprised, come November or later, that I bring up yours...with a big fat
"told you so".

Don't get me wrong though, I actually hope you are right and that I'm wrong.
Obviously, I'm both a fan of Nintendo and a fan of Zelda...I pray to God
that *you're* the one saying "told you so".

Of course. Well put.

he'll be quoting amazon to tell us when duke nukem forever is out
next.

Or Manc principle - I'm sure you Geordies have them? Alan Shearer certainly
has! (hence the decision not to sell out, and stay and play for his 'toon')

The thing is, this game is highly more than likely ready, it has seemingly
been put on sandbags till closer to the launch of their new system
(allegedly), to be used as an incentive for people to buy that. What message
does that send out to the people who have invested in the here & now? I
bought Gamecube on the trust that when the games I want are ready, they're
released. I've had years of this treatment by this industry, and I'm
personally quite sick of it. This industry gets away with murder. If a band
have finished their album, they release it - they don't sandbag it for half
a year to release on the start of their next tour, to sell tickets for that
(well, pop generic shite owned by Simon Cowell may do - not Indie bands or
anyone with an ounce of decency). That's the analogy that came straight to
my mind anyway.

Some people are seemingly very happy to whip down their kecks and let big
companies shag them in the arse, with not a word of complaint - and some
even cry for more. This particular gamer's ringpiece is a bit too sore from
all that, you'll have to excuse me.  (yes, that analogy was the first that
sprung to my mind too)  ;)

Tell me, in all honesty, if you found out this game was fully ready for sale
yet they had put it on ice until Revolution came out - you wouldn't be
pissed? And please try not to answer that as a X360 owner who has plenty to
keep him occupied until it does come along - not all of us have (or want)
one of them, at least try to see my POV of the people that only own one
system (not that I am, I have several).

Of course, I'd more than likely still buy it if this was all true, if I'm
honest with you, but that doesn't make it right still. I'm also willing to
take a bet with anyone here that this game will come out in November, and
I'll honour it too - if anyone wants to put the money where their mouth is,
I'm game. Of course this is speculation, but it is educated speculation -
forget that it comes from some crap store - people know what Nintendo are
like, well some of us do anyway. It's an educated guess, and that's much
better than blind faith in my book.

Jeebus, It was only a small few months ago that some of the very people
contributing to this thread argued with me till they were blue in the face
that the non existent 100 Mario's was still coming to Gamecube - I'll not
mention names. I don't wish to cause embarrassment here, I'm just trying to
make a point. I tell you one thing though, I got seriously flamed for saying
it wouldn't come to Gamecube. Why it's so hard to express an opinion that
negatively questions Nintendo round here is quite beyond me  - I won't say
*that* word.

I've suddenly got an enormous sense of Déjà Vu though. :)

I suppose so - well, that's the best argument I've heard for pro ZTP delay
anyway. A good point well made.

However, I'd be happy to play it now, and then re-play it for all the
alleged Rev content if and when I buy that....but I suppose we hardcore
Zelda fans are not the people they're thinking of when decisions like this
are made, they have to look at the bigger picture I suppose. I would also
forgive Nintendo for making a decision like this when you consider their
position in terms of market share. The only thing that troubles me with that
though is that Nintendo Gamecube is actually profitable...where Xbox simply
isn't, and PS2 and PSP are only keeping Sony's head above water due to the
fact it is subsidising their massive losses elsewhere in their corporation.

Also, Revolution should rightly have its own software to sing and dance
about, and sell the system. I feel it shouldn't be left to a Gamecube game
that we who have shown our loyalty to them by buying *this* generation of
hardware are all gagging for. I can also, I suppose, see the sense of them
wanting to put it out nearer the festive season and launch of PS3, if only
to remind people that this is still a three horse race. So I am flexible on
this, yes.....but only to a point. It's just that despite no significant
release date ever being given, we have still been led to believe it would be
out a lot sooner than November.