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OT: Trying to reinstall my MS SW FF Pro wheel. Problems.
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pw - 24 Feb 2005 06:14 GMT Hi,
I am trying to get back into NR2003 and am interested in the new EA NASCAR sim.
I am running Windows 2000 Pro with Service Pack 4.
I plugged it back into a USB port and it got detected. I was asked to insert the Sidewinder CD. I can't find it. Any way, I don't recall needing it with Win2K SP4 (in fact, there are no drivers to be found for it at the MS site).
So, just to make it happy, I found the two DLLs it was asking for already installed on my system and pointed the install program to them.
Well, now the controller appears to show up as a joystick and there isn't the controller interface that I remember I used to use (FF settings, etc....).
I tried to uninstall the device in the Game Controllers interface, but it tells me I must use the Device Manager. Well, it isn't listed in the Device Manager! It is listed as controller id 1 as a MS SW Force Feedback Pro Wheel.
Maybe one DLL that I found was for the old SW FF Joystick I used to use, and one was for the wheel?
Any way, does any one know how to get this wheel working?
And, will this wheel work in NSR?? If not, I may just end up getting the MOMO FF Wheel.
Thanks!
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DJRJR - 24 Feb 2005 13:58 GMT You need the cd to reinstall it. It will say it doesnt work with that version or something, but you install anyway and it should work. I've got a few extra copies of it laying around if you cant find it..
TechAde - 24 Feb 2005 14:23 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > remove astericks (*) from e-mail address > (use paulwilliamson at spamcop dot net) Hi Paul,
Have you tried installing the Sidewinder Vers 4 software? It comes up with a warning that it won't work when you try to install, but if you ignore the warning and install anyway it should work fine I believe.
Good luck!
Ade.
pw - 24 Feb 2005 16:41 GMT >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >Ade. Thanks! I can't find my CD and nothing at Microsoft's site. I seem to remember a Sidewinder page but I did a Google and nothing is showing up.
Guess it's time for a new wheel!
Thanks guys.
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pw - 24 Feb 2005 16:45 GMT >Have you tried installing the Sidewinder Vers 4 software? It comes up >with a warning that it won't work when you try to install, but if you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Ade. Do you mean the Sidewinder Game Device Software for Windows 95 and 98?
That is all I can find at Microsoft's site.
Thanks
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Plowboy - 24 Feb 2005 18:08 GMT PW I saw at windrivers.com I think it was, the installer.. for the latest drivers (from the CD) you do have to install it. I even have it somewhere zipped but on a drive no longer in a machine at the momement It wans that big maybe 13 megs?
IMHO that MS, is a Very good wheel, so if your going to get a new one because you dont have the CD, Ill buy that one one from you :) I have my buddy who wants one, and I have cd he can use.
pw enlightened us with:
>> Have you tried installing the Sidewinder Vers 4 software? It comes up >> with a warning that it won't work when you try to install, but if you [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - > Total Privacy via Encryption =---- pw - 24 Feb 2005 23:31 GMT >PW I saw at windrivers.com I think it was, the installer.. for the latest >drivers (from the CD) you do have to install it. I even have it somewhere [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >because you dont have the CD, Ill buy that one one from you :) I have my >buddy who wants one, and I have cd he can use. Thanks! I will check out windrivers.com. I will keep trying. I had it working in Win2000 with NASCAR 2003 a couple of months ago! I don't know what the heck Windows problem is. Perhaps because it's no longer in the same USB port (?).
-paul
>pw enlightened us with: >>> Have you tried installing the Sidewinder Vers 4 software? It comes up [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - >> Total Privacy via Encryption =---- -pw remove astericks (*) from e-mail address (use paulwilliamson at spamcop dot net)
pw - 24 Feb 2005 23:33 GMT >PW I saw at windrivers.com I think it was, the installer.. $30 a year? I will look elsewhere. I doubt I'd ever use that site again.
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Plowboy - 25 Feb 2005 17:47 GMT Sorry at one TIme I knew a username and PW... let me see if I can get the the install copied off off the cd to "not my" webspace... or something. contact me via stingre (yes spelled right) from yahoo. pw enlightened us with:
>> PW I saw at windrivers.com I think it was, the installer.. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - > Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Larry - 25 Feb 2005 19:02 GMT Microsoft, for some bizarre reason never explained by them for 5 years now, never made version 4.0 downloadable.
And, in fact, there are _multiple_ verisons of 4.0. Each SideWinder USB device came with it's own version of 4.0.
Nice hardware. Antiquited software and boneheaded support.
-Larry
> Do you mean the Sidewinder Game Device Software for Windows 95 and 98? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- Plowboy - 25 Feb 2005 19:57 GMT Larry are you sure (at least about the wheels)?
I am not positive but I have the non ff, and OK, it is different yes. but I also have 2 black rubber ff wheels (version 1's), (actually lost one in a move) and one Red rubber (aka version 2) these all 3 FF wheels seemed to have the same SW.
I would be happy to burn the CD for PW, if he figures out how to contact me. So again you PW adress a note to the one in thread, or stingre32 as the name and send it to me at Hotmail. surely that is easy enough?
later gator
Larry enlightened us with:
> Microsoft, for some bizarre reason never explained by them for 5 > years now, never made version 4.0 downloadable. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption >> =---- Larry - 25 Feb 2005 22:41 GMT The SideWinder USB Joystick and Wheel did indeed come with their own version of 4.0.
-Larry
> Larry are you sure (at least about the wheels)? > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption >>> =---- Larry - 25 Feb 2005 22:45 GMT The MSFFW 4.0 CD (without the MTM2 Installer) is 22.7MB Zipped.
-Larry
> Larry are you sure (at least about the wheels)? > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption >>> =---- pw - 25 Feb 2005 05:50 GMT >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >Ade. Sidewinder Version 4 software does not exist, only 3.2 (which is for 95, 98, and Me).
Thanks.
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TechAde - 25 Feb 2005 16:56 GMT pw <***paulwilliamson@***spamcop.net> wrote
> Sidewinder Version 4 software does not exist, only 3.2 (which is for > 95, 98, and Me). > > Thanks. > > -pw Yes it does, it came on CD with the USB versions of the wheel, but it's not available for download.
Let me know if you can't find it and I'll see about zipping it up from the CD and putting it online somewhere for you.
Ade.
pw - 26 Feb 2005 05:08 GMT >pw <***paulwilliamson@***spamcop.net> wrote >> Sidewinder Version 4 software does not exist, only 3.2 (which is for [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Ade. Ade. - I am grateful to people like yourself and Plowboy.
I looked every where for that CD!!! Even in the box! I have no idea where it could be, and how the heck I got it working in Win2K!
Thank you!
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Plowboy - 28 Feb 2005 13:56 GMT You got more mail again today PW. sorry I flubbed that zip up. I was gone all day sunday. pw enlightened us with:
>>> Sidewinder Version 4 software does not exist, only 3.2 (which is for >>> 95, 98, and Me). [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - > Total Privacy via Encryption =---- bob - 26 Feb 2005 13:39 GMT ...
> I plugged it back into a USB port and it got detected. I was asked to > insert the Sidewinder CD. I can't find it. Any way, I don't recall > needing it with Win2K SP4 (in fact, there are no drivers to be found > for it at the MS site). The reinstalled Win XP (motherboard and cpu upgrade) and didnt bother with the Sidewinder CD or Sidewinder 4.0 or more likely I just forgot. My MSFF (MS SW Force Feedback Wheel) is in my controller menu and working fine. I use the separate axis for throttle and brake. I works great in F1C, NR2003, NSR, and rFactor.
..Bob
pw - 27 Feb 2005 04:38 GMT >... > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >..Bob I will try NR2003 and see if it works again. Thanks!
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