If you started looking into all the bad things employers did to it's
employees around the world you probably would find a lot worse stuff then
this. Look at China for instance. You probably own a bunch of stuff that was
made by a four year old in a sweatshop. Chances are your house was built by
an underpaid illegal alien, and on and on....

Sheesh, welcome to the IT industry. I've been on call 72 hours straight
and in an hour I'll be then required to come to work and work a full
day. If I find this to be a problem, I could have done what ea_spouse
should have done and found alternative employment.

Cheers,
Rod.

With that kind of practise with time, EA will lose the best people
first, then the good people, and finally the rest. Word spreads in this
business like hell, and they won't get away with it.

And they have lost a customer, right now, right here.

No, I can't be certain about the worker conditions behind the stuff
around me, but I can stop buying the stuff of which I hear bad things. I
don't buy stuff from Israel if possible, and I won't buy stuff from EA.

You can say I live on my own ideal planet, yes, but I am using my
freedom to actually do something about something I feel is right/wrong,
and that is infinately better than using freedom for nothing at all.

---A---

  Boohoo, big deal.

"The current mandatory hours are 9am to 10pm -- seven days a week -- with
the occasional Saturday evening off for good behavior (at 6:30pm). "

Jeez...  Might as well join the Military!

-Larry

If GPL would have been made by child labor in Indonesia I most likely would
still have bought and played it. Let those that live for punishing
corporations fight these battles. I would rather improve my lap times.

   Is it fair and just if true? No, but nothing has changed from day one in
this indusrtry.
I started programming in 1974 and lasted until 1979. I worked 90 hours some
weeks in
order to achieve project deadlines. I rarely worked a 40 hour work week
which was the
salaried time I had been led to believe I would be working when I was hired.
   I have had situations where I was called into work at 7.30 am and was
still there at
2.30 am the next morning and was back in again at 7.30 am. I was given
special favours on
occasion by senior management even though my immediate bosses didn't
approve.
   The hours forced me to become a better programmer and made me a much
more efficient
manager of my time. When I left the company they were forced to hire two
people to do the job
I did by myself and at a higher pay. I got even by not sharing all the
secrets that I learned
over a period of 5 years which cut coding time significantly.
   The moral of the story was that they became clients of mine and I made
far more money
in consultation fees than they ever paid me as an employee.
   It's a case of free choice. I used the opportunity as a learning tool
that paid huge
dividends when I moved on to bigger and better things.
   It's a case of supply and demand if people are willing to put up with
poor working conditions
and low pay the onus is on them to deal with it. If EA is breaking the law
there are ways to deal
with that as well.
   Do I like EA? No! But if they produce a good product that won't stop me
from purchasing it.
As an aside, I for the first time bought NSR and think they have done a
decent job. It still needs
many bugs addressed but it is a huge step in the right direction for them.

   Pete